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Stokes - Confirmed to Bury (2 Viewers)

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Greggs

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #106
JamesCCFC said:
Admittedly I thought this but if the right players become available, Robins shouldn't sit back and settle for who we have. If they're better than what we currently have then there's no sense in resting on our laurels. I understand it's important to have a good team chemistry though.
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Agree buddy. We had great team spirit and the side really seemed to have gelled by the end of the season! Fingers crossed he hasn't taken us back to square one
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #107
Nick said:
Left back was one of the positions last season we seemed to struggle with and there was no real first choice between him and Haynes which made it look like he wasn't sure on any.
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Stokes would have made perfect back-up
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #108
Greggs said:
Agree buddy. We had great team spirit and the side really seemed to have gelled by the end of the season! Fingers crossed he hasn't taken us back to square one
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I shouldn't think so.We've got a solid core with big characters to lead the line that can keep the new recruits in check. Also, given Brown's injury record I think it would've been a risk to keep hold of Stokes, given his own injury record. We struggled at LB last season so maybe it was the right choice to take a different direction.
 
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Ranjit Bhurpa

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #109
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep like him but not good enough for top of league 1.
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Well, he was during Mowbray's time here.
Sadly not the same player after his injury. Also, Robins appears to favour athletic wing backs rather than traditional full backs.
Just hope the replacements are as good as Stokes defensively.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #110
Personally I always liked Stokes, thought he could do a job in this division (as he has done in the past!) but Robins likes fullbacks that bomb forward, so it was always inevitable he'd go really.
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #111
Deleted member 5849 said:
Personally I always liked Stokes, thought he could do a job in this division (as he has done in the past!) but Robins likes fullbacks that bomb forward, so it was always inevitable he'd go really.
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Personally, i prefer defenders that can defend!
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #112
Liked Stokes the player when he first joined but unfortunately he got injured and wasn’t quiet the same when he came back, that’s football sadly it doesn’t stand still. No room for sentiment.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #113
Not the most naturally gifted but always gave it his all and was a major factor in steadying us during the final push last year. Bury have got a solid higher league 2/ lower league 1 left back. I hope he does well.
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #114
Good move for him I think he would have struggled in league one, time for us to move forward with a better calibre of player
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #115
Mason and brown. Camwell still on books. Position is covered
 
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Greggs

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #116
covcity4life said:
Mason and brown. Camwell still on books. Position is covered
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One recovering from same injury that last full-back failed to recover from. One unproven 20 year old and one who seems to have a terrible attitude?! Stokes departure definitely made us weaker
 

Nick

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #117
Greggs said:
One recovering from same injury that last full-back failed to recover from. One unproven 20 year old and one who seems to have a terrible attitude?! Stokes departure definitely made us weaker
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Don't think it's making us weaker if the 3rd choice is going does it?
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #118
Nick said:
Don't think it's making us weaker if the 3rd choice is going does it?
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On what evidence? Say Brown doesn't recover to his potential, Mason is totally unproven with around 3 pro games under his belt....It's currently based on guess work, whereas Stokes can still do a job and can offer a lot at Cb too
 

Nick

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #119
Greggs said:
On what evidence? Say Brown doesn't recover to his potential, Mason is totally unproven with around 3 pro games under his belt....It's currently based on guess work, whereas Stokes can still do a job and can offer a lot at Cb too
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What if all 3 of our goalies get injured at the same time?

Robins has obviously assessed the players he has brought in to think they can do a job before letting Stokes and Haynes both go.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #120
Greggs said:
On what evidence? Say Brown doesn't recover to his potential, Mason is totally unproven with around 3 pro games under his belt....It's currently based on guess work, whereas Stokes can still do a job and can offer a lot at Cb too
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Who is the geezer who has Mark Robins phone number? Because Greggs needs it to tell him how he's going wrong.
We've got plenty of CB cover, and better left backs, which was an area that clearly needed strengthening.
 

Greggs

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #121
Nick said:
What if all 3 of our goalies get injured at the same time?

Robins has obviously assessed the players he has brought in to think they can do a job before letting Stokes and Haynes both go.
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The GK reference makes no sense.
Let's just hope signing a 29 year old, recovering from a major injury, doesn't backfire!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #122
Greggs said:
The GK reference makes no sense.
Let's just hope signing a 29 year old, recovering from a major injury, doesn't backfire!
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You have said that we should keep stokes in case of his injury and the number 2 LB being no good.

You would think Robins would have checked his state of recovery before signing him / getting rid of others also? Would be suicide for him to do it if Brown was struggling and Mason was shite.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #123
Maybe we should just trust the man who has guided us to a trophy, and 1st promotion in 50 years.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #124
Nick said:
You have said that we should keep stokes in case of his injury and the number 2 LB being no good.

You would think Robins would have checked his state of recovery before signing him / getting rid of others also? Would be suicide for him to do it if Brown was struggling and Mason was shite.
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I assume though Vincenti was impacted by his injury and we signed him
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #125
I recognize that most city fans rated stokes a lot higher than I did, I think to play full back you need some pace, saw stokes beaten by pacey wingers too easily, however recognize the benefits he gave us defending dead balls, prepared to trust Robbins judgement
 

stevefloyd

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #126
Stokes was a decent defender but obviously pace let him down also couldn't cross a ball too well either so thanks for the memories good luck and lets move on!!
 

bawtryneal

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #127
Thanks to Stokes for his 3 years at the club. Always gave his best and had the right attitude and was great at representing CCFC in the community
Made the leap from non league and for me, whilst he was lacking in skill and pace, always gave 100%. Good luck at Bury my son.
 
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Hobo

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #128
Stokes did okay while he was here but showing signs he is on the wane. We have brought two in and they need to show the manager is right in backing them.

This seems like positive team building; not selling for a bit of money and bringing in wing and a prayer replacements. Since Pressley and Mowbray there does seem to be a shift in corporate policy (so not all down to Robins, but I am not knocking Robins either). We might be turning a corner?
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #129
Grendel said:
I assume though Vincenti was impacted by his injury and we signed him
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Him and Kelly both signed for us on the back of bad injuries. Vincenti obviously didn't recover well and most of this site hated Kelly before Christmas. I know Kelly came good in the end but I'm far from convinced by our recruitment and squad at the minute. If Jones, Andreu, Brown and Ogogo don't come back 100% we will struggle. Also worrying that we have a few injuries and international call ups already hampering our short pre season.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #130
ccfchoi87 said:
Him and Kelly both signed for us on the back of bad injuries. Vincenti obviously didn't recover well and most of this site hated Kelly before Christmas. I know Kelly came good in the end but I'm far from convinced by our recruitment and squad at the minute. If Jones, Andreu, Brown and Ogogo don't come back 100% we will struggle. Also worrying that we have a few injuries and international call ups already hampering our short pre season.
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But we bought Brian King years ago, had never missed a game, then early on dislocated his knee. Every transfer is a risk. When we sold Willie Carr to Wolves they knocked the price down because of concerns over his knees, he played for them for years. We got cold feet on a small fee for Marsden...he went to Southampton...what a mistake...he could make a midfield tick like a watch:

Every new transfer and every new season is a risk. Nothing is a given in football.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #131
Hobo said:
But we bought Brian King years ago, had never missed a game, then early on dislocated his knee. Every transfer is a risk. When we sold Willie Carr to Wolves they knocked the price down because of concerns over his knees, he played for them for years. We got cold feet on a small fee for Marsden...he went to Southampton...what a mistake...he could make a midfield tick like a watch:

Every new transfer and every new season is a risk. Nothing is a given in football.
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King was just a flop one if those things.

Marsden is a real urban myth - he did go to Southampton 6 years after we released him!
 

JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #132
Grendel said:
Marsden is a real urban myth - he did go to Southampton 6 years after we released him!
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He was on loan to us from Huddersfield, where he'd been banished to the reserves. IIRC, he had to choose between us and Wolves in the division below, and he chose them.

Edit: I seem to recall there was a televised game for us where he ran the show, which alerted Wolves to his talent. Another example of TV ruining the game.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #133
Hobo said:
But we bought Brian King years ago, had never missed a game, then early on dislocated his knee. Every transfer is a risk. When we sold Willie Carr to Wolves they knocked the price down because of concerns over his knees, he played for them for years. We got cold feet on a small fee for Marsden...he went to Southampton...what a mistake...he could make a midfield tick like a watch:

Every new transfer and every new season is a risk. Nothing is a given in football.
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I was more talking about ability to be fair. It's rare that they come back as good as before. I understand what you mean though. We've signed plenty of crocks but also let go of others who played on for years
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #134
JulianDarbyFTW said:
He was on loan to us from Huddersfield, where he'd been banished to the reserves. IIRC, he had to choose between us and Wolves in the division below, and he chose them.

Edit: I seem to recall there was a televised game for us where he ran the show, which alerted Wolves to his talent. Another example of TV ruining the game.
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Swindon - we thrashed them 1-1 (most one sided draw I've seen City involved in)
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #135
JulianDarbyFTW said:
He was on loan to us from Huddersfield, where he'd been banished to the reserves. IIRC, he had to choose between us and Wolves in the division below, and he chose them.

Edit: I seem to recall there was a televised game for us where he ran the show, which alerted Wolves to his talent. Another example of TV ruining the game.
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He left wolves to play for the giants that were Notts county and Stockport and played second fiddle at both clubs
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #136
If Brown were to get injured, and Mason isn't ready yet, I'd play Shipley at left back
 
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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #137
Grendel said:
He left wolves to play for the giants that were Notts county and Stockport and played second fiddle at both clubs
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He was a regular for a Stockport side who reached the semi-finals of the league cup, and it was his performances there that encouraged Dave Jones to buy him for Southampton.

And however you look at it, he'd have been better than Sandy Robertson!
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #138
Deleted member 5849 said:
He was a regular for a Stockport side who reached the semi-finals of the league cup, and it was his performances there that encouraged Dave Jones to buy him for Southampton.

And however you look at it, he'd have been better than Sandy Robertson!
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And better than £2m Eoin Jess too.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #139
Stokes hasn't been the same since his injury unfortunately. Think Robins letting someone like this go is a good sign. Shows he is ensuring the squad is stronger rather than just settling for what we have.

Hope he makes a success of the move and doesn't end up drifting out the game.
 
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ceetee

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  • Jul 16, 2018
  • #140
chiefdave said:
Stokes hasn't been the same since his injury unfortunately. Think Robins letting someone like this go is a good sign. Shows he is ensuring the squad is stronger rather than just settling for what we have.

Hope he makes a success of the move and doesn't end up drifting out the game.
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You are correct but are supporting the point that others are making, That is, players returning from injury are a gamble because they may take too long to recover their form, if at all.
 
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