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Robins has to go in the summer / 02476 555 555 (1 Viewer)

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Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #211
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The big man/little man combo was what I thought they were signed for. Should've saved his Bakayoko comments for behind closed doors though.
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You would have thought so and with decent service I think they might be OK with the ball at their feet.

He really isn't a target man and even more pointless with nobody around him, when he got the ball to his feet a couple of times he had a good touch and linked up well.

His comments won't go down well and he will lose the dressing room after so long of doing things that don't work. People getting angry at Bakayoko don't notice how he had fuck all all game to work with. The same as Biamou when he was gesturing the bench for some support up front.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #212
gspotgaz said:
Brown ? Something seems very off with him
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He really doesn’t want to play Burge either
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #213
Otis said:
Yeah, I know. But we've seen it before.

A player has a bad game or two and fans gets on his back and then you see the nervousness of every touch in every game after from then on.
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He didn't make innocent mistakes, he looked like he didn't care. Unless Robins has demotivated him that much already.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #214
Grendel said:
He really doesn’t want to play Burge either
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What I found strange was the telegraph heard he had a bad knee, Burge told people he had a bad hip.

Something doesn't seem right, it reminds me of the randomness with Kelly Evans twins. They would vanish for weeks then start a game, then vanish again.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #215
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He didn't make innocent mistakes, he looked like he didn't care. Unless Robins has demotivated him that much already.
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After the first 10 times of something that clearly doesn't work it demotivates. The more it happens the more other players will lose faith.

Something needs changing.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #216
Nick said:
What I found strange was the telegraph heard he had a bad knee, Burge told people he had a bad hip.

Something doesn't seem right, it reminds me of the randomness with Kelly Evans twins. They would vanish for weeks then start a game, then vanish again.
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He lost the plot with Burge after the Sutton game
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #217
Nick said:
You would have thought so and with decent service I think they might be OK with the ball at their feet.

He really isn't a target man and even more pointless with nobody around him, when he got the ball to his feet a couple of times he had a good touch and linked up well.

His comments won't go down well and he will lose the dressing room after so long of doing things that don't work. People getting angry at Bakayoko don't notice how he had fuck all all game to work with. The same as Biamou when he was gesturing the bench for some support up front.
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He got offside an unholy number of times, that's got nothing to do with being isolated up front it's just laziness. Doesn't excuse Robins' persistence with a busted system but he was poor in his own right tonight. We had these discussions last season too, he only makes changes when forced and stubbornly sticks to his system at any cost.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #218
Grendel said:
He lost the plot with Burge after the Sutton game
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JCH was after the West Brom game.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #219
Very strange. Changed the formation and half the team and lost the momentum of last season. I could possibly understand five at the back if we felt the two fullbacks were more wingbacks but this formation just isn’t working...Ogogo and Doyle (both of whom I like as players - but not in the same team every week - they need a more mobile box to box player next to them) sitting in front of the back four and one up front ?! Hope robins isn’t too stubborn to change this as no goals from open play tells it’s own story !

Losing McNulty was always going to be a blow but some of the decisions since have just accentuated the goalscoring problems rather than solve them ! (If you lose a 20-25 goal striker, surely at least play a couple up top to try to chip in with the same/more)
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #220
He’s reminding me of Boothroyd and Adams in their final days
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #221
Nick said:
What I found strange was the telegraph heard he had a bad knee, Burge told people he had a bad hip.

Something doesn't seem right, it reminds me of the randomness with Kelly Evans twins. They would vanish for weeks then start a game, then vanish again.
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Robins already lost the dressing room or some bad eggs with bad attitude?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #222
Grendel said:
He’s reminding me of Boothroyd and Adams in their final days
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Least they were a league higher
 

Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #223
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Robins already lost the dressing room or some bad eggs with bad attitude?
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I don't know if it's a bit of both or just clashing personalities.

I have heard of issues with JCH, Brown and McDonald. Others must have heard the same as me about something happening with JCH too.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #224
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Robins already lost the dressing room or some bad eggs with bad attitude?
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It's seems the Walsall fans may have been right.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #225
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
It's seems the Walsall fans may have been right.
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That he isn't a target man or a lone striker?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #226
Nick said:
I don't know if it's a bit of both or just clashing personalities.

I have heard of issues with JCH, Brown and McDonald. Others must have heard the same as me about something happening with JCH too.
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Something does feel really off with this team though. I've heard LoB is a moaner and kicked up a fuss that he should be a regular and demanded a move.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #227
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
It's seems the Walsall fans may have been right.
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They did say he is always offside. Robins hasn't scouted this guy. It's obvious Baka and Hiwula are knee jerk signings as Chaplin never deal never came off.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #228
AFCCOVENTRY said:
They did say he is always offside. Robins hasn't scouted this guy. It's obvious Baka and Hiwula are knee jerk signings as Chaplin never deal never came off.
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Where would have played Chaplin tonight though?
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #229
Nick said:
I don't know if it's a bit of both or just clashing personalities.

I have heard of issues with JCH, Brown and McDonald. Others must have heard the same as me about something happening with JCH too.
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What happened with JCH Nick ?
 

Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #230
cc84cov said:
What happened with JCH Nick ?
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I'm not 100%, just heard there was an issue with him after one of the pre season games.
 

Marty

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #231
Grendel said:
He lost the plot with Burge after the Sutton game
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What happened?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #232
Nick said:
That he isn't a target man or a lone striker?
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Neither , one of the first things you leaner in football is how not to be offside.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #233
Nick said:
Yep, just a rumour I heard that he was very negative about everything.
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Bit unfortunate to sack Stokes off then. Means we're asking Mason to develop far quicker than we wanted to.

That being said, every workplace has disputes between people at times, doesn't it? Just is easier to mask it when you're winning...
 

Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #234
Deleted member 5849 said:
Bit unfortunate to sack Stokes off then. Means we're asking Mason to develop far quicker than we wanted to.

That being said, every workplace has disputes between people at times, doesn't it? Just is easier to mask it when you're winning...
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Stokes was already gone by then.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #235
Nick said:
Stokes was already gone by then.
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I wasn't disputing the timescale, I merely said it was a bit unfortunate to sack him off.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #236
Deleted member 5849 said:
I wasn't disputing the timescale, I merely said it was a bit unfortunate to sack him off.
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It looked at the time that Robins was going to play Wing Backs when he signed Brown and Sterling so Stokes wouldn't fit. Maybe that's why Brown isn't happy?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #237
Nick said:
It looked at the time that Robins was going to play Wing Backs when he signed Brown and Sterling so Stokes wouldn't fit. Maybe that's why Brown isn't happy?
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better days (I think!) said that when we tried three at the back, the players were resistant to that.

Regardless, it's unfortunate he's sacked Stokes off, if Brown is unhappy and negative!
 

stevefloyd

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #238
Browns passing was awful tonight, he didn't get forward bring Mason back in at least he gets forward and looks interested
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #239
Deleted member 5849 said:
better days (I think!) said that when we tried three at the back, the players were resistant to that.

Regardless, it's unfortunate he's sacked Stokes off, if Brown is unhappy and negative!
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I think Stokes, Vincenti and Beavon were told early doors to look for clubs. (I think maybe even before we brought Brown in, I can't remember the timescale)
 

fatso

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #240
I heard (from a youth players father) that Burge and MR had a stand up row in pre season, and Burge has been told he can find another club, although this will be difficult now the window has closed.
JCH was promised a contract if we got promotion, which has happened, but is unlikely to feature as Vivesh dosnt rate him.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #241
stevefloyd said:
Browns passing was awful tonight, he didn't get forward bring Mason back in at least he gets forward and looks interested
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Mason is the better player out of the two.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #242
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Mason is the better player out of the two.
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Agree with that on the showing so far both going forward and defending.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #243
Particularly in the first half on Saturday I thought if we were going to score from open play it would likely come through Mason in some way. When we do next score from open play I just hope we'll still be alive to see it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #244
Nick said:
I think Stokes, Vincenti and Beavon were told early doors to look for clubs. (I think maybe even before we brought Brown in, I can't remember the timescale)
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Which is unfortunate when it comes to Strokes, if Brown is negative and unhappy.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Aug 21, 2018
  • #245
I really wish we'd have kept Stokes. He looked the part when we were in L1 before, he can cover the middle too and from the outside he seemed an integral part of the good squad atmosphere last season. I also didn't understand why we shipped Blair Adams out when we did either, we must be going for some kind of world record for leftbacks.
 
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