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  • Thread starter Alan Dugdales Moustache
  • Start date Sep 15, 2020
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1nilandwe...

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #211
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Are you asking because you don't know ?
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I suppose so, yes.
I'm asking because your post suggested that you know. And I am interested in your response.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #212
David O'Day said:
Classic whataboutery.

If Alex Scott is not an expert on football then who is? No answer needed as we are talking about hosting QoS.
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This sounds like you are saying no one knows more about football than Alex Scott. She knows a fair bit about women's football I assume. Most people are not interested in women's football. Most people follow men's football.
That's a fact.
 

1nilandwe...

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #213
Grendel said:
You are inflating her knowledge of football by claiming 140 caps in a very different sport to the one 99% of the supporters follows which again was another point I made - it’s trying to to get an Equal status to a vastly more popular version.
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This suggests pretty plainly that the only reason that she is not suitable for these roles, is because she is a woman, and if she were a man, you wouldn't be asking the same questions of her.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #214
Skybluefaz said:
Imagine being able to get a job and people don't automatically assume it's because of your skin colour. Must be some sort of privilege...
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Shouldn't you put this on the George Floyd thread ? That's where you can play your enduring race card.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #215
1nilandwe... said:
Literally nobody else is talking about this.
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They are, which is disappointing for those wanting to keep the race issue bubbling. Nice try.
 

1nilandwe...

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #216
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
They are, which is disappointing for those wanting to keep the race issue bubbling. Nice try.
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Go back and have a look. Find the first post about her role with the government.
Grendel brought it up out of nowhere.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #217
1nilandwe... said:
This suggests pretty plainly that the only reason that she is not suitable for these roles, is because she is a woman, and if she were a man, you wouldn't be asking the same questions of her.
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Guess it depends.

A man who had played Saturday Football would still have those questions asked surely?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #218

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Just because she has to play at a standard that doesn't attract as much interest publicly has no relation to her knowledge of the sport overall for the culture committee.

What exactly could a male ex-pro bring in terms of knowledge of the game beyond what it's like in the dressing room/training in the man's game? And how would that be of particular use for a public celebration of football culture? She has as much knowledge of playing at the top level she is able to achieve and enjoys spectating/reporting on both mens and womens football. She spends her whole working life around the game in various capacities. That qualifies her.
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They should give Ron Atkinson the job, he'd cut through all this PC & diversity nonsense.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #219
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
This sounds like you are saying no one knows more about football than Alex Scott. She knows a fair bit about women's football I assume. Most people are not interested in women's football. Most people follow men's football.
That's a fact.
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So you don't thi k Sue Barker is qualified for the job either? What about David Coleman and Vine?
 

1nilandwe...

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #220
Nick said:
Guess it depends.

A man who had played Saturday Football would still have those questions asked surely?
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She has played 140 times at the highest level it was possible for her to achieve.
Are you equating that to pub football?
 

rob9872

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #221
I prefer female assistant refs as they have twice as many holes I can tell them to shove their flag up
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #222
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Shouldn't you put this on the George Floyd thread ? That's where you can play your enduring race card.
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What you on about?
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #223
rob9872 said:
I prefer female assistant refs as they have twice as many holes I can tell them to shove their flag up
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I hope you exempt the Tile Hill lass? She's one of our own!
And she's pretty decent as well to be fair to her.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #224
1nilandwe... said:
She has played 140 times at the highest level it was possible for her to achieve.
Are you equating that to pub football?
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You have obviously never seen it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #225
1nilandwe... said:
This suggests pretty plainly that the only reason that she is not suitable for these roles, is because she is a woman, and if she were a man, you wouldn't be asking the same questions of her.
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Actually I would. I think she’s getting kind as she is a woman. She will probably be in doctor who soon
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #226
1nilandwe... said:
She has played 140 times at the highest level it was possible for her to achieve.
Are you equating that to pub football?
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Yes
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #227
Grendel said:
I was talking about her credentials as the football expert on the culture committee - what are her qualifications for that role?
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Aside from playing at the highest level of her sport both here and in the US, played in the World Cup, an Olympian, opened the first academy for women’s football in the U.K., media work etc?
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #228
What on earth is the issue here.
She is patiently qualified for the role required.
Sue has had a great run as presenter, maybe she was controversial taking over from a man.
Regards the rest I couldn't give a ?
It's very tired and dated,and I'd wager not quite as spontaneous as appears .
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #229
What were Sue's qualities when she got the gig?
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #230
Grendel said:
Yes
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Then you'd be Wrong.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #231
1nilandwe... said:
Literally nobody else is talking about this.
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That’s why he is.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #232
clint van damme said:
the same BBC that allowed non MP Nigel Farage to appear more times on QT this century than anyone else except Ken Clarke?
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Gammon is a race remember.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #233
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Well we're not - we're talking about hosting a panel show on TV. Besides which as the football expert on the culture committee try a 15 year footballing career and 140 England caps.

And if you want to talk about qualifications for roles in government - what qualifications do most politicians have that make them suitable for the ministerial roles they're given? What qualifications has Dido Harding got for her role both in terms of previous performance and in that particular industry?
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The task force grendull is on about was a task force to find ways to keep football going during Covid. As well as Alex Scott the task force consisted of Michael Grade, a Spanish Ballet dancer and the founder of last minute.com. The irony being clearly Alex Scott and possibly Michael Grade were the only two people with any sort of qualification on the matter. Maybe Grendull was being critical of the government.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #234
1nilandwe... said:
Go back and have a look. Find the first post about her role with the government.
Grendel brought it up out of nowhere.
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Why not post it then ?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #235
clint van damme said:
So you don't thi k Sue Barker is qualified for the job either? What about David Coleman and Vine?
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Where have I said Alex Scott should be hosting the show ?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #236
wingy said:
What on earth is the issue here.
She is patiently qualified for the role required.
Sue has had a great run as presenter, maybe she was controversial taking over from a man.
Regards the rest I couldn't give a ?
It's very tired and dated,and I'd wager not quite as spontaneous as appears .
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Wingy, I like the way you call her "Sue". Sounds a little intimate almost.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #237
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Wingy, I like the way you call her "Sue". Sounds a little intimate almost.
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Mental block Alan , couldn't remember her surname Lol.
Senior moment.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #238
shmmeee said:
Gammon is a race remember.
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Derived from the French and first used by Dickens?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #239
1nilandwe... said:
She has played 140 times at the highest level it was possible for her to achieve.
Are you equating that to pub football?
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Not far off, however that's another discussion
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #240
Evo1883 said:
Not far off, however that's another discussion
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Your daughters playing .
If she reached a similar pinnacle would that really in your opinion equate to Sunday league/pub level?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #241
wingy said:
Your daughters playing .
If she reached a similar pinnacle would that really in your opinion equate to Sunday league/pub level?
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I know of a certain pub team when I was playing that had several current and former semi pro footballers playing for them... I don't think women's football is comparible to semi pro male football... Il never say that to my daughters.. They won't read this.

It's not so much the natural ability, it's the strength power and pace, they just cannot compete
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #242
1nilandwe... said:
I suppose so, yes.
I'm asking because your post suggested that you know. And I am interested in your response.
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I think you need charisma on a panel show like this. Some have it, some don't.
I recall thinking Emelyn Hughes, Ally McCoist , Ian Botham, Willie Carson were all big hitters in their sport who were natural leaders and who just had it. Not so much Bill Beaumont and nor Dawson. Most of the others I can't remember at all.

I've already said I think Nicola Adams has loads of charisma, is a household name and a natural bubbly personality. Dion Dublin is certainly worth a punt and Dame Kelly Holmes is another contender. I think it's about time we had a female as a team captain for a change.
I just don't think Alex Scott would fit the bill. Put her on as a team member, but not as captain. I'd say the same about Jermaine Janus. They just haven't got enough charisma to do it week in week out without the show becoming boring fairly quickly.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #243
Evo1883 said:
I know of a certain pub team when I was playing that had several current and former semi pro footballers playing for them... I don't think women's football is comparible to semi pro male football... Il never say that to my daughters.. They won't read this.

It's not so much the natural ability, it's the strength power and pace, they just cannot compete
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Not against men,no I wouldn't expect apart from the odd 'Star' player, but against their peers I've seen some terrific games.
 
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Macca

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  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #244
Programme is shite. Barker is nothing special, Dawson an absolute bellend and Tufnell has done the one trick bit of a spanner pony for too long. Like most TV it’s big on gimmick low on content. Alex will make it throughly bearable in my humble opinion
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2020
  • #245
Macca said:
Programme is shite. Barker is nothing special, Dawson an absolute bellend and Tufnell has done the one trick bit of a spanner pony for too long. Like most TV it’s big on gimmick low on content. Alex will make it throughly bearable in my humble opinion
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It just needs freshening up. Whoever is captain needs to be able to send themselves up, not be afraid to look silly, be a good team player and have some laughs that the viewers and audience can respond to .
Is that Alex Scott ? Most people haven't even heard of Alex Scott. Most people have heard of Nicola Adams.
 
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