Sick Boy
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The sort of Brexit he'd favour would be very different to that of the Tories though, and based on different ideology.
He hasn't been weak. He just hasn't been shouting about it.
Both parties are split on it. The voters are split on it. May is a remainer. But she is getting shit off the remainers because she is leading the leavers.
Corbyn has always wanted out of the EU. But he knows he can use the situation to his advantage. Keep all the negativity on May.
The sort of Brexit he'd favour would be very different to that of the Tories though, and based on different ideology.
It isn't Tories leave and Labour remain though.The sort of Brexit he'd favour would be very different to that of the Tories though, and based on different ideology.
Career agitator.Evidence? I couldn't disagree more. Corbyn is the very epitome of any definition of a career politician.
This 'career politician' is just a lazy smear. The majority could earn much more in other jobs but have chosen a career of public service. I include Tories, who I generally find objectionable. Who would want to be a politician?
It isn't Tories leave and Labour remain though.
It isn't the Tories wanting to leave in one way and Labour in another way.
It depends on who you want to quote. I hear on here that Labour wants to stay in and the Tories want out. But the Tory leader has always wanted to stay in and the Labour leader has always wanted out. The leaders are voted for by their members. So it could be twisted the other way round.
Nobody has a clue what will be best. If they did the vast majority of MP's would go in that direction. But peoples strong views get in the way.
To me short term we are better off being in the EU. Long term I think we will be better off out. But that is the point. I think. I don't know. Just like everyone else who is being honest.
Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, 2016 - WikipediaMay wasn’t elected by any Tory member as leader, she got the leadership by default. Presumably by doing a deal with the likes of Fox, Goves and all the other pro brexit Tory MPs. She’s a vile woman who sold her own principles down the road to be PM.
Only the parliamentary members get a vote not party members.
Which members did I say?Only the parliamentary members get a vote not party members.
Which members did I say?
And some say others don't jump on my posts trying to prove me wrong
She already had over 50% when 3 of them were in it. So when it went to two she would have got even more.May never won a leadership contest. She got to the final two in a contest to see which two MP’s would go head to head on a vote of party members for the leadership. Corbyn was at least elected by party members. May gained leadership by default after the person she was running for leadership against pulled out. This means May is unelected as leader of the Tory Party.
Only the parliamentary members get a vote not party members.
When did we have a vote for the leader of the Conservative party?The country as a whole had a vote and she received the biggest vote from the uk public for nearly forty years.
She already had over 50% when 3 of them were in it. So when it went to two she would have got even more.
But it doesn't go with what you are trying to say. And all just to try and prove me wrong for once.
BTW Corbyn won by default. He couldn't get enough MP's to back him. But there wasn't enough in the running. So a few put their name down for him instead to make it someone else in. That is why he was massive odds. Then lots of Tory voters paid to become Labour members and voted for him. But you know all this.
When did we have a vote for the leader of the Conservative party?
Whilst back with the truthDo you not read your own links? There were five candidates for the Tory leadership not three. Tory MP’s voted on this to widdle it down to two candidates to face the vote of party members. That’s all she achieved. Getting to the final two.
Here’s a little known for Corbyns election Labour Party (UK) leadership election, 2015 - Wikipedia
Read it and learn something.
When did we have a vote for the leader of the Conservative party?
The notion having a mandate from members versus a mandate from the wider public is absurd.
She didn't exactly get the mandate from the voting public either.
More people voted for her than any political leader since thatcher in 79
There are 10 million more people in the UK since 1979 - coincidence?
Ok she has the highest percentage vote of any leader since 1979
And Corbyn did an amazing job when a higher percentage voted Tory?Tony Blair took 43% of the votes in 97 and crucially won 418 seats. So it’s since 97 not 79.
May took 42% losing 13 seats and reducing her majority to a minority 317 seats causing her to shake the magic money tree and do a deal to save her ass.
You can try and polish it all you like but the only statistic that counts is seats and as you can see from stats percentage of votes for the most part means jack. Cameron had a smaller percentage but more seats. If you look at percentage in isolation you’re missing the point.
And Corbyn did an amazing job when a higher percentage voted Tory?
I won't have that while so many of us can remember Thatcher!. She’s quite possibly the worst Tory PM in living memory and by some distance.
I won't have that while so many of us can remember Thatcher!
It's also a case of be careful what you wish for if she goes...
Followed by...the stuff of nonsense
she saved the country from become a bankrupt Stalinist state
the alternative to Thatcher was poverty for all time for the vast majority of the population. You really are too old for the sixth form now
I won't have that while so many of us can remember Thatcher!
It's also a case of be careful what you wish for if she goes...
I disagree, but I wouldn't sully a Corbyn thread by disagreeing on it.and she did leave the country in a better place than she found it.
Followed by...
Good to see you haven't lost your touch...
WIth a laughable statement like that, it shows your black and white tendencies.socialist government (even the spendthrift Blair administration)
WIth a laughable statement like that, it shows your black and white tendencies.
As for the rest, the method of measuring unemployment changed radically during the Thatcher administration. Despite that, here's an unemployment graph that shows how much it rose during her time... more than doubling at certain periods.
But this is a Corbyn thread, and the deflections just won't work.
I disagree, but I wouldn't sully a Corbyn thread by disagreeing on it.
Well as I said, I'm not going to sully this thread beyond getting sucked in by the panto villian now and again. Let'sface it, the same circles have been going ad infinitum.(Edit) either way Corbyn had a great election, Mays was an ill advised disaster.
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