Oh Jeremy Corbyn

torchomatic

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Thought it was a good speech.

  • Promise to close gender pay gap
  • On the "threshold of power"
  • Labour is government in waiting
  • "Outstanding" Shadow Cab - even I'm not sure about that one
  • Peace and justice at heart of foreign policy
  • Build a new relationship with Europe
  • Labour ready, Tories not, they're not strong or stable
  • Tories hanging on by their fingertips
  • Tories have tracked down the magic money tree
  • Homelessness doubled under Tories
  • 20K fewer police, 11K fewer fire fighters
  • Condemned by United Nations over disability rights
  • Asks Tories to end austerity, abolish tuition fees, scrap public sector pay cap (yeah!!)
  • Labour election campaign "primed and ready to go"
  • Tory election campaign "nasty and personal"
  • Tory's are messing up Brexit. Our future is under threat
  • Tory "trio" have got nowhere with negotiations
  • Labour is the only party that can unite Brexiteers and Remainers
  • Cliff edge Brexit will become real under Tories
  • Britain's future at risk under Conservatives
  • Labour will repair damage to economy, due to austerity
  • Utilities back into public ownership - stop the public being ripped off
  • Create a national savings bank
  • Ask big business to pay more tax
  • Labour launching a review of social housing policy
  • Stop cuts to social security
  • Free tuition. No one held back by costs
  • Trump speech at UN "disturbing"
  • 2017 - year when politics finally caught up with crash of 2008
  • Labour is the political mainstream
  • Labour manifesto and policies are popular as that what people want
  • Labour is the champion of social justice
 
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Philosorapter

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Great, when are they going to address the problems of democracy in the party so the local Labour members can vote on who they want to put forward as their candidate for MPs.
 

Captain Dart

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Thought it was a good speech.

  • Promise to close gender pay gap
  • On the "threshold of power"
  • Labour is government in waiting
  • "Outstanding" Shadow Cab - even I'm not sure about that one
  • Peace and justice at heart of foreign policy
  • Build a new relationship with Europe
  • Labour ready, Tories not, they're not strong or stable
  • Tories hanging on by their fingertips
  • Tories have tracked down the magic money tree
  • Homelessness doubled under Tories
  • 20K fewer police, 11K fewer fire fighters
  • Condemned by United Nations over disability rights
  • Asks Tories to end austerity, abolish tuition fees, scrap public sector pay cap (yeah!!)
  • Labour election campaign "primed and ready to go"
  • Tory election campaign "nasty and personal"
  • Tory's are messing up Brexit. Our future is under threat
  • Tory "trio" have got nowhere with negotiations
  • Labour is the only party that can unite Brexiteers and Remainers
  • Cliff edge Brexit will become real under Tories
  • Britain's future at risk under Conservatives
  • Labour will repair damage to economy, due to austerity
  • Utilities back into public ownership - stop the public being ripped off
  • Create a national savings bank
  • Ask big business to pay more tax
  • Labour launching a review of social housing policy
  • Stop cuts to social security
  • Free tuition. No one held back by costs
  • Trump speech at UN "disturbing"
  • 2017 - year when politics finally caught up with crash of 2008
  • Labour is the political mainstream
  • Labour manifesto and policies are popular as that what people want
  • Labour is the champion of social justice
He is going to do everything & let future generations pay for it.
 

Philosorapter

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So
He is going to do everything & let future generations pay for it.
So tell us again how PFI passed the cost of hospitals, schools etc on to the next generation, where the previous generation paid for hospital, schools etc of the Blair/Brown years.
 
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Captain Dart

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So tell us again how PFI passed the cost of hospitals, schools etc on to the next generation, where the previous generation paid for hospital, schools etc of the Blair/Brown years.
I too believe PFI needs killing off, I've said it before.,
Even though I think it was Major's government that started down this slippery path I think you'll find the biggest culprit was that arsehole Brown.
The great debt deceit: how Gordon Brown cooked the nation’s books | The Spectator
 

Philosorapter

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torchomatic

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He is going to do everything & let future generations pay for it.
A bit like those who voted Brexit then? Let future generations suffer for their selfishness.
 

Kingokings204

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I personally don't mind Jeremy corbyn per se, he speaks honestly and he knows what he wants and I think that's a good thing. He is a proper lefty. That's great. I just have two major problems personally :

1. He voted against every EU treaty for 30 years and then backed remain in the EU ref. Sorry but that's good enough for me.

2. His policies seem decent to me and probably a lot of people but his finances don't always add up and I don't want my kids paying for it in years to come like has been shown. So nice in theory but not always very practical.
 
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skybluegod

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Tbh I can no longer agree with any of the parties.
I have voted conservative my whole life, but my faith in them is waning, but not enough to think Labour is the answer. It wasn't long ago that half the Labour Party tried getting rid of him. So they can pretend to be strong and stable themselves but I'm not buying it. They will make people happy short term, but long term I don't trust them.
IMO there is a desperate need for either a stronger leader for the conservatives, or a new party, easier said than done, but we have two main parties, and everyone else are just there for the sake of it really. Lib dems you only have to look at Tim Farrom to see what morons they are, and I have yet to make an opinion on vince cable since he too, over as leader.
 
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Grendel

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A bit like those who voted Brexit then? Let future generations suffer for their selfishness.
Odd. May is a huge fan of Europe. Corbyn and McDonnell can't wait to go - Corbyn wanted article 50 triggered the next day - and will impose far more restrictions on immigration than even Farage would contemplate.

"British jobs for British workers"
 

Grendel

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Thought it was a good speech.

  • Promise to close gender pay gap
  • On the "threshold of power"
  • Labour is government in waiting
  • "Outstanding" Shadow Cab - even I'm not sure about that one
  • Peace and justice at heart of foreign policy
  • Build a new relationship with Europe
  • Labour ready, Tories not, they're not strong or stable
  • Tories hanging on by their fingertips
  • Tories have tracked down the magic money tree
  • Homelessness doubled under Tories
  • 20K fewer police, 11K fewer fire fighters
  • Condemned by United Nations over disability rights
  • Asks Tories to end austerity, abolish tuition fees, scrap public sector pay cap (yeah!!)
  • Labour election campaign "primed and ready to go"
  • Tory election campaign "nasty and personal"
  • Tory's are messing up Brexit. Our future is under threat
  • Tory "trio" have got nowhere with negotiations
  • Labour is the only party that can unite Brexiteers and Remainers
  • Cliff edge Brexit will become real under Tories
  • Britain's future at risk under Conservatives
  • Labour will repair damage to economy, due to austerity
  • Utilities back into public ownership - stop the public being ripped off
  • Create a national savings bank
  • Ask big business to pay more tax
  • Labour launching a review of social housing policy
  • Stop cuts to social security
  • Free tuition. No one held back by costs
  • Trump speech at UN "disturbing"
  • 2017 - year when politics finally caught up with crash of 2008
  • Labour is the political mainstream
  • Labour manifesto and policies are popular as that what people want
  • Labour is the champion of social justice
Were any Jews allowed in the room?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.te...ed-having-ostrich-strategy-anti-semitism/amp/
 

Captain Dart

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Senior Vick from Alicante

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Diane Abbott as a credible minister, Jeremy Corbin her ex shag as Top dog. I would give up and move to America, Trumps a twat but at least you wouldn't have Dennis Skinner running around shouting lend, lend,lend and Abbott asking who lend is.
 
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clint van damme

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Even Labour know how bad it will be if, heaven forbid, they are elected
John McDonnell: Labour preparing for financial chaos and 'war games' if it wins next election
but when the pound dropped to it's lowest level for 30 plus years recently we were told it wasn't a big deal!
And the key thing in that article, Labour preparing for all possible outcomes. That's quiee reassuring when you look at the total lack of preparation the tories have put in for brexit.
 
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rob9872

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Easy to make promises in opposition. If he gets his go and overspends then you can blame the subsequent Tory administration for future austerity measures moppong up his mistakes. Rinse and repeat.
 

Grendel

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Ed Milliband, who was leader of the supposedly anti semitic party.
To suggest Corbyn isn't anti Semitic is a bit silly. Under milliband it hadn't lurched to the Marxist left which has always despised the Jewish community.
 

Grendel

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but when the pound dropped to it's lowest level for 30 plus years recently we were told it wasn't a big deal!
And the key thing in that article, Labour preparing for all possible outcomes. That's quiee reassuring when you look at the total lack of preparation the tories have put in for brexit.
30 years plus against what?
 

clint van damme

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To suggest Corbyn isn't anti Semitic is a bit silly. Under milliband it hadn't lurched to the Marxist left which has always despised the Jewish community.
I think to suggest he is anti semetic is silly but there you go.
 

Grendel

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Diane Abbott as a credible minister, Jeremy Corbin her ex shag as Top dog. I would give up and move to America, Trumps a twat but at least you wouldn't have Dennis Skinner running around shouting lend, lend,lend and Abbott asking who lend is.
Skinner was abused and called a scab by Corbyn supporters - disgusting.
 

chiefdave

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And the key thing in that article, Labour preparing for all possible outcomes. That's quiee reassuring when you look at the total lack of preparation the tories have put in for brexit.
The reporting on this has been shockingly bad even by the poor standard of our news media. To go from looking at multiple unlikely scenarios, including world war, huge natural disasters, major terrorism shutting down London etc, and from that publish headlines that Labour is planning for a run on the pound if they are elected, the clear implication being that Labour are expecting the economy to crash if they are elected, is poor to say the least by anyones standards.
 

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Odd. May is a huge fan of Europe. Corbyn and McDonnell can't wait to go - Corbyn wanted article 50 triggered the next day - and will impose far more restrictions on immigration than even Farage would contemplate.

"British jobs for British workers"
Hahaha...Corbyn is anti single market but pro migration/freedom of movement.
 

Sick Boy

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The Tory boys better get used to idea of Corbyn as their PM, especially now the Conservatives have the albatross of Brexit around their necks.
 
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skybluetony176

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To suggest Corbyn isn't anti Semitic is a bit silly. Under milliband it hadn't lurched to the Marxist left which has always despised the Jewish community.
He's more an anti-Zionist if you read what he says, rather than anti-Semitic and there is a difference. Lots of people are anti-Zionist including Orthodox Jews and I'm sure that they aren't anti-Semitic.

Some people like to blur the lines for political gain.
 

Grendel

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The Tory boys better get used to idea of Corbyn as their PM, especially now the Conservatives have the albatross of Brexit around their necks.
He's not PM is he and even on the latest polls wouldn't be as he'd need a 7% swing - still facts above rhetoric eh.