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Matty James (3 Viewers)

  • Thread starter TwistAndShoutCCFC1987
  • Start date Apr 30, 2021
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Opinion on James

  • Class. Should be signed if possible in the summer

    Votes: 217 90.8%
  • Average. He flatters to decieve and we shouldn’t necessarily sign him in the summer

    Votes: 20 8.4%
  • Poor, stay away in the Summer

    Votes: 2 0.8%

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fatso

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  • May 22, 2021
  • #141
Alkhen said:
I get that but Eccles is still a Yong player and could be loaned out. I also feel Hamer could play in a more free role, might suit him
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Hamer wont be here, he will move on.
We have Jody Jones, but we are asking a lot of him given his injury record.
Allen, Shipley, Hilsner, Jobello and Kasteneer are dead wood and need moving on (if anyone will take them) so we desperately need to recruit some attacking midfield talent. If we get 4 mill or similar for Hamer we can invest that, and maybe look at the loan market again.
But MR faces some big challenges during pre-season.
 

Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #142
fatso said:
Hamer wont be here, he will move on.
We have Jody Jones, but we are asking a lot of him given his injury record.
Allen, Shipley, Hilsner, Jobello and Kasteneer are dead wood and need moving on (if anyone will take them) so we desperately need to recruit some attacking midfield talent. If we get 4 mill or similar for Hamer we can invest that, and maybe look at the loan market again.
But MR faces some big challenges during pre-season.
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Im not convinced we will sell Hamer this window. I feel like they will wait till January to cash in. Based on not a lot more than the fact he has so long left on his contract and the market not being that strong
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • May 23, 2021
  • #143
fatso said:
Hamer wont be here, he will move on.
We have Jody Jones, but we are asking a lot of him given his injury record.
Allen, Shipley, Hilsner, Jobello and Kasteneer are dead wood and need moving on (if anyone will take them) so we desperately need to recruit some attacking midfield talent. If we get 4 mill or similar for Hamer we can invest that, and maybe look at the loan market again.
But MR faces some big challenges during pre-season.
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Don't think you'd struggle to find takers for Allen, Shipley & Jobello. All decent players, just maybe not at Championship level (although I'd still keep Shipley personally). Hillßner would probably be a loan, but he's played plenty of games in the German 3rd tier so I'm sure there would be takers there. Kastaneer is the difficult one - it's not a talent issue as much as an attitude issue. He just doesn't seem to want it. Imagine he'll eventually end up back in the Dutch second tier, such a waste of talent. Wouldn't be surprised if we paid him off to end the contract early.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #144
Ohare would be the one player id be thinking about taking from ccfc at this level. Much more fearful of losing him than hamer if I’m honest
 
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covcity4life

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  • May 23, 2021
  • #145
Hamer linked to WBA my baggie mate said
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #146
covcity4life said:
Hamer linked to WBA my baggie mate said
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They haven’t got a manager yet
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • May 23, 2021
  • #147
Evo1883 said:
By all accounts its 32000 a week currently mate
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When his contract ends in June he will be on £0.00 per week he knows he will be negotiating with a bottom half championship club so realism will strike home
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #148
covcity4life said:
Hamer linked to WBA my baggie mate said
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How? They’ve got no manager
 

Dickie

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  • May 23, 2021
  • #149
slowpoke said:
They haven’t got a manager yet
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Nothing stops a rumour based on nothing!
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #150
Grendel said:
How? They’ve got no manager
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Just passing on what he said. Maybe it was in local paper or sumthin
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #151
slowpoke said:
They haven’t got a manager yet
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Grendel said:
How? They’ve got no manager
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Continental structure is becoming more commonplace here, where the 'manager' is more like a coach and the transfers are decided at boardroom level/Director of Football and the guy in charge of actually putting the team on the field just gets told they're signing such-and-such whether he likes it or not. Think the RM/Barca Presidential contests where they say they'll sign particular players.

Not a set-up I approve of and I'd have the actual manager having the veto on any transfers, thus giving him the control of the squad and thus accountability.
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #152
Who says he doesn’t
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #153
So do you think we can pay him enough?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #154
I’ve heard the West Brom link from my in laws.
 

blunted

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #155
I thought someone said Ohare was on 10k a week. I thought we could tempt James with that amount but the wages per player link that was posted on here was scary how low our budget for each player was compared with other Championship clubs. I really hope we get James, but he has to be a gamble with his injury record. I think that is why Barnsley never took up the option even though he may have got them to the Prem. I dont buy their He doesn't fit our profile press release.
 
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Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #156
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ohare would be the one player id be thinking about taking from ccfc at this level. Much more fearful of losing him than hamer if I’m honest
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Yeah he is the one with the premier league engine. Think he has his head screwed on though. Better to be star here and get guaranteed game time to work on his finishing.

Do think he will earn us a mint in the next year or so
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #157
Alkhen said:
Yeah he is the one with the premier league engine. Think he has his head screwed on though. Better to be star here and get guaranteed game time to work on his finishing.

Do think he will earn us a mint in the next year or so
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And he’ll make a very good living out of the game
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 23, 2021
  • #158
You’d like to think that there was a kind of gentleman’s agreement between Robins and James during the loan negotiations with him signing if he stayed injury-free and all went well.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #159
Sick Boy said:
You’d like to think that there was a kind of gentleman’s agreement between Robins and James during the loan negotiations.
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So hard when we don’t have the money other clubs do. If someone offers £15 and we can only offer £8k say it’s hard to turn down the extra £350k isn’t it?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 23, 2021
  • #160
Sky Blue Pete said:
So hard when we don’t have the money other clubs do. If someone offers £15 and we can only offer £8k say it’s hard to turn down the extra £350k isn’t it?
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Unfortunately, yes
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #161
Sick Boy said:
Unfortunately, yes
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Different when fishing in league 1 pool but nothing is guaranteed then
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #162
Sky Blue Pete said:
Different when fishing in league 1 pool but nothing is guaranteed then
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That’s our owner for you
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #163
Grendel said:
That’s our owner for you
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Well it’s more our budget but maybe that’s one and the same
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #164
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well it’s more our budget but maybe that’s one and the same
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It’s the owners inability or lack of desire to try and fund some form of competitive budget as their only desire is fund recovery and investor payback
 
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #165
Grendel said:
It’s the owners inability or lack of desire to try and fund some form of competitive budget as their only desire is fund recovery and investor payback
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Are you suggesting Mark Robins has been competing on an uncompetitive budget? A Cup win and two promotions and kept us up first year back in the Championship - sounds good progress to me under the circumstances.
 
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slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #166
Hobo said:
Are you suggesting Mark Robins has been competing on an uncompetitive budget? A Cup win and two promotions and kept us up first year back in the Championship - sounds good progress to me under the circumstances.
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But could and should be a whole lot better but when our owner makes a decision that cost the club a quarter of a million or thereabouts a home match it makes it a tough gig.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #167
Hobo said:
Are you suggesting Mark Robins has been competing on an uncompetitive budget? A Cup win and two promotions and kept us up first year back in the Championship - sounds good progress to me under the circumstances.
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Yep and got flack from Grendel and others.seems he wants it every which way

Robins must be a genius to get us anywhere with these owners. Actually that’s what I think. I really don’t want us to overspend and end up in a worse and worse position
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #168
slowpoke said:
But could and should be a whole lot better but when our owner makes a decision that cost the club a quarter of a million or thereabouts a home match it makes it a tough gig.
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How much better could he have done? Don’t talk wet man
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #169
Well if ccfc weren’t throwing around 4 million quid down the drain perhaps we might not be the second worst budget on the division
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #170
slowpoke said:
Well if ccfc weren’t throwing around 4 million quid down the drain perhaps we might not be the second worst budget on the division
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We’ve played this over so so many times. It’s boring. Focus on what’s next
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #171
slowpoke said:
But could and should be a whole lot better but when our owner makes a decision that cost the club a quarter of a million or thereabouts a home match it makes it a tough gig.
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£250k every home game???
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #172
Hobo said:
Are you suggesting Mark Robins has been competing on an uncompetitive budget? A Cup win and two promotions and kept us up first year back in the Championship - sounds good progress to me under the circumstances.
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No in the lower leagues but the owners have zero interest in taking the club to another level and as you all know Mr Robins whatever anyone thinks of him worships at the Sisu temple
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #173
Boring ? Well that’s a novel way of describing spunking 4 million out of the club coffers. What’s next ? Wish I knew not the premier league with the present ownership.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #174
slowpoke said:
Boring ? Well that’s a novel way of describing spunking 4 million out of the club coffers. What’s next ? Wish I knew not the premier league with the present ownership.
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Think I agree so you gonna put up the money? Or you gonna understand a little what’s gone on and what we are likely to manage going forward.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2021
  • #175
Grendel said:
No in the lower leagues but the owners have zero interest in taking the club to another level and as you all know Mr Robins whatever anyone thinks of him worships at the Sisu temple
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No he understands the parameters Grendel. Thought you’d be a covey man. Change what you can accept what you can’t
 
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