Matty Godden (2 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

Not surprised he has no assists tbh.

Sure , but he has the best goalscoring record from the strikers

 

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[Alkhen]

Bidwell looked like scoring more than Simms

Fuck off you weirdo

 

[Hertsccfc]

Those 2 goals today were the most Matty godden goals ever mate

Actually it seems his favourite goal is the shot from the right hand side across the keeper.

 

[shmmeee]

Haaland gets away with it to be fair , part of our problem is the deliveries to the CF are neither to feet or any good in general .. today you saw allen give 2 balls to goddens feet in the box and he scores

And btw ,godden works tirelessly , another myth that he contributes nothing

I’m not questioning his work rate, just the impact that work has on the opposition. He is almost criminally slow, if we aren’t sat in the final third he’s next to useless. I think he presses better than Simms who IMO needs to step up a lot, but the rest of his game just isn’t as dangerous.

Ask me to pick a player to save my life by getting a shot off in the box and it’s Godden every time, but if we aren’t making it to the box he’s less effective. And that’s not a slight at him, Langstaff from what I can tell would have similar issues.

That said Simms goal record is so poor he’s got the opposite issue.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Sure , but he has the best goalscoring record from the strikers

Evo we get it! We know what he brings to the table and what he doesn't!

Imo no matter how much I respect Godden. Simms is the future and better all round striker, no contest, there is a time and place for Godden too.

 

[fernandopartridge]

If you look at some of his goals before he came here he looked fairly calm in front of goal. Currently it's the one major failing of our management team being unable to get that out of him.

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I wouldn't blame the management team, it's just his price tag weighing heavy on his own conscience

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[Evo1883]

I’m not questioning his work rate, just the impact that work has on the opposition. He is almost criminally slow, if we aren’t sat in the final third he’s next to useless. I think he presses better than Simms who IMO needs to step up a lot, but the rest of his game just isn’t as dangerous.

Ask me to pick a player to save my life by getting a shot off in the box and it’s Godden every time, but if we aren’t making it to the box he’s less effective. And that’s not a slight at him, Langstaff from what I can tell would have similar issues.

That said Simms goal record is so poor he’s got the opposite issue.

I think and still maintain , even with Simms that we don't involve the CFs enough in build up play and don't get the ball to feet enough in and around the box ..

I think it was slightly better today with palmer and o hare playing as it's more intricate and silky pass and move as opposed to the direct nature of haji wright .. but pur centre forwards need the balls to feet in and around the box, it matters not how often they head a ball down the wing or flick a ball on , that's the cold hard truth

 

[Evo1883]

Evo we get it! We know what he brings to the table and what he doesn't!

Imo no matter how much I respect Godden. Simms is the future and better all round striker, no contest, there is a time and place for Godden too.

You can't be a better All round striker if you don't score goals , that's like saying Kevin kyle was a better all round striker than Michael chopra

 

[Hertsccfc]

Evo we get it! We know what he brings to the table and what he doesn't!

Imo no matter how much I respect Godden. Simms is the future and better all round striker, no contest, there is a time and place for Godden too.

In what way is he better? I just don't see it. He is faster than Godden of course, but he's not very fast, and Godden's movement is much better. I also think Godden's control is better. And of course Godden's goalscoring is vastly superior and that is the most important thing.

 

[Evo1883]

In what way is he better? I just don't see it.

He's faster and stronger .. that's it

Can't shoot straight yet

 

[Balli001]

In what way is he better? I just don't see it.

Well i do and so do several others. If godden played at Leeds for example we don't get a point

 

[Evo1883]

Well i do and so do several others. If godden played at Leeds for example we don't get a point

If we started with O hare and palmer at Leeds we get beat 5 -0 , means little

 

[Londonccfcfan]

You can't be a better All round striker if you don't score goals , that's like saying Kevin kyle was a better all round striker than Michael chopra

He scored 7/8 for Sunderland this time last year. Not quite happened for him yet. But it will do. He's been there or there abouts.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Simms is significantly better with his back to goal and running the channels

 

[Londonccfcfan]

In what way is he better? I just don't see it.

Robins sees it.

 

[Evo1883]

He scored 7/8 for Sunderland this time last year. Not quite happened for him yet. But it will do. He's been there or there abouts.

He's scored 2 in 25

 

[shmmeee]

I think and still maintain , even with Simms that we don't involve the CFs enough in build up play and don't get the ball to feet enough in and around the box ..

I think it was slightly better today with palmer and o hare playing as it's more intricate and silky pass and move as opposed to the direct nature of haji wright .. but pur centre forwards need the balls to feet in and around the box, it matters not how often they head a ball down the wing or flick a ball on , that's the cold hard truth

He's faster and stronger .. that's it

Can't shoot straight yet

Hit shot power would be several points above Goddens, his finishing several points below.

Godden couldn’t have set up our second today, that’s the ultimate difference. But equally Simms often looks like he can’t shoot straight or trap a bag of sand. The hope is we can train that into him, unless we give Godden wheels he ain’t getting any faster.

 

[Evo1883]

Simms is significantly better with his back to goal and running the channels

So he's a target man type forward .. a striker needs to score goals too

 

[shmmeee]

People really need to stop leaning on Simms Sunderland record though. It means nothing to have one purple patch. He’s still got to prove himself.

 

[Evo1883]

Robins sees it.

They've all played pretty even game time , does Robins see what you don't in godden ?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

So he's a target man type forward .. a striker needs to score goals too

How many players have carved a career being the support striker for others to score.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

They've all played pretty even game time , does Robins see what you don't in godden ?

It’s clear Robins rates Simms and Wright more if the rumours are true that he’s getting rid of Godden

 

[Evo1883]

How many players have carved a career being the support striker for others to score.

True but he's on for 4 goals in a full season as it stands .. it's not enough even in that role

 

[Evo1883]

It’s clear Robins rates Simms and Wright more if the rumours are true that he’s getting rid of Godden

Well if the rumours are true yes but there's been nothing but just that .. a rumour

 

[Londonccfcfan]

He's scored 2 in

So he's a target man type forward .. a striker needs to score goals too

Yes he's stronger, bigger and much quicker. He's handfull.

It's been painfull watching Godden offering nothing up front literally a passenger in recent months.

 

[Evo1883]

Yes he's stronger, bigger and much quicker. He's handfull.

It's been painfull watching Godden offering nothing up front literally a passenger in recent months.

You will be bitterly disspointed with langstaff , seems you can't see past a cart horse now

 

[Londonccfcfan]

You will be bitterly disspointed with langstaff , seems you can't see past a cart horse now

I'm 100% opposed to Langstaff...no fucking way in hell is a 26 year old lower league journeyman even ready fir championship football.

 

[Evo1883]

I'm 100% opposed to Langstaff...no fucking way in hell is a 26 year old lower league journeyman even ready fir championship football.

So you just don't like goalscorers ? What is it ?

You definitely said Stern John was shit and adebola was amazing didn't you ?

 

[covcity4life]

Are lots of different types of strikers in this game. Is a need for target men types just as much as poacher types even if goal tally's are not the same

 

[shmmeee]

So you just don't like goalscorers ? What is it ?

Can we get Vik 2 pls?

 

[Evo1883]

Can we get Vik 2 pls?

And this is the problem isn't it .. vik would be unreal in this team but fuck me they aren't out there like you're simms and goddens are

 

[Hertsccfc]

People really need to stop leaning on Simms Sunderland record though. It means nothing to have one purple patch. He’s still got to prove himself.

7 in 17 is hardly a purple patch anyway. OK it is compared to 3 in 28, but the way people go on about it you'd think he was like Haaland there. And he had Diallo on the wing.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

They've all played pretty even game time , does Robins see what you don't in godden ?

Godden puts Gyokores finishing to shame last year. Doesn't mean Goddens better.

 

[clint van damme]

I'm joking mate , I hope Simms comes good , still too early to fully make an opinion, there is a concern with his goal return but let's see what happens

He's a real enigma, his contribution to the 2nd goal was reminiscent of Vik, but he's often underwhelming, I'm doubling, nay, trebling down in saying he'll come good.

 

[Evo1883]

Godden puts Gyokores finishing to shame last year. Doesn't mean Goddens better.

Let's be clear , Simms is nowhere near vik either