Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

London Bridge (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Nov 29, 2019
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • 9
  • …
  • 14
Next
First Prev 7 of 14 Next Last

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #211
covcity4life said:
Changed alot from hes a hero

I am glad you listened to me and changed your viewpoint
Click to expand...
A hero for that one occasion.

heroic
/hɪˈrəʊɪk/

adjective
  1. 1.
    having the characteristics of a hero or heroine
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #212
Same old story:
Known to police
Released from prison early
Warned about the risks
When will they learn?
Unfortunately as in so many cases, the innocent public pays the price.
 
Last edited: Nov 30, 2019
Reactions: RegTheDonk

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #213
covcity4life said:
You make no sense otis

I hwve never said the act wasnt heroic. I saod he is not a hero
Click to expand...
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #214
First victim named.

BBC News - London Bridge attack victim named as Jack Merritt


London Bridge attack victim named

RIP
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #215
Otis said:
First victim named.

BBC News - London Bridge attack victim named as Jack Merritt


London Bridge attack victim named

RIP
Click to expand...
A coordinator of the event that Khan was attending, i Wonder if the heroic/murderer was at the same event. It would appear the guy with the Narwhal tusk was in the same building and maybe extinguisher guy also. Watching the footage you can't question the bravery shown.
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete and Sick Boy

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #216
Grendel said:
How many miscarriages of Justice have their been in the last decade which would have meant the death penalty
Click to expand...
Why only focus on the last decade? Surely it’d be better to look at those since the abolishment of the death penalty.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #217
Johnnythespider said:
A coordinator of the event that Khan was attending, i Wonder if the heroic/murderer was at the same event. It would appear the guy with the Narwhal tusk was in the same building and maybe extinguisher guy also. Watching the footage you can't question the bravery shown.
Click to expand...
Haven't they said that he was indeed at the event?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #218
covcity4life said:
Changed alot from hes a hero

I am glad you listened to me and changed your viewpoint
Click to expand...

A single heroic act makes you a hero for that single act. It's literally written in there!
 
Reactions: Otis

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #219
Otis said:
Haven't they said that he was indeed at the event?
Click to expand...
Have they, i hadn't seen it.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #220
Johnnythespider said:
Have they, i hadn't seen it.
Click to expand...
I thought they had. I may be wrong.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #221
Astute said:
Wish I'd have kept my gob shut for once :shifty:
Click to expand...
No it’s a really good moral maze where we all have opinions based on evidence and experience and none of us are completely correct or completely wrong
 
Last edited: Nov 30, 2019
Reactions: shmmeee, Astute and Otis

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #222
Sky Blue Pete said:
No it’s a really good moral maze where we all have opinions based on evidence and experience and none of us a completely correct or completely wrong
Click to expand...
Yup, it's such a minefield and not black and white at all.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #223
Sky Blue Pete said:
No it’s a really good moral maze where we all have opinions based on evidence and experience and none of us a completely correct or completely wrong
Click to expand...
Well yes.

A murderer released early on day release helped stop a terrorist known to be a danger released early from murdering more people.

I know why people have a problem agreeing with each other as I can't even agree with myself.
 
Reactions: Otis

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #224
Otis said:
Yup, it's such a minefield and not black and white at all.
Click to expand...
It's 50 shades of grey.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #225
Sky Blue Pete said:
No it’s a really good moral maze where we all have opinions based on evidence and experience and none of us a completely correct or completely wrong
Click to expand...

It’s hardly a moral maze. One mad lunatic is allowed out of prison and is allowed to roam freely with students. Another odious individual is allowed at the same event. In an attempt at prison style justice the murderer of a disabled girl kills the lunatic

perhaps we should have a killer room in prisons. So this week it’s Rose, Peter, Ian all together armed with clubs and only one can come out. At least we save £74,000 a year
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #226
Grendel said:
It’s hardly a moral maze. One mad lunatic is allowed out of prison and is allowed to roam freely with students. Another odious individual is allowed at the same event. In an attempt at prison style justice the murderer of a disabled girl kills the lunatic

perhaps we should have a killer room in prisons. So this week it’s Rose, Peter, Ian all together armed with clubs and only one can come out. At least we save £74,000 a year
Click to expand...
But the police shot him dead.
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #227
Astute said:
But the police shot him dead.
Click to expand...

They shot him dead as he was let out. He should have been dead years ago
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #228
Grendel said:
They shot him dead as he was let out. He should have been dead years ago
Click to expand...
So what had he done to deserve to die before? Had he murdered anyone previously?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #229
Astute said:
So what had he done to deserve to die before? Had he murdered anyone previously?
Click to expand...
Just plotted didn't he.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #230
Grendel said:
It’s hardly a moral maze. One mad lunatic is allowed out of prison and is allowed to roam freely with students. Another odious individual is allowed at the same event. In an attempt at prison style justice the murderer of a disabled girl kills the lunatic

perhaps we should have a killer room in prisons. So this week it’s Rose, Peter, Ian all together armed with clubs and only one can come out. At least we save £74,000 a year
Click to expand...

The young lads father has said he does not want his son's death to be used to introduce more draconian sentencing.

Just adds to the complexity of an already complex issue.
 
Reactions: shmmeee and Otis

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #231
Otis said:
Just plotted didn't he.
Click to expand...
Yep.

Death to everyone who farts at this rate soon.
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #232
One question that this raises for me is, how often are these clearly dangerous individuals allowed to attend events like this, wouldn't they be better held at secure institutions where those hoping to learn something travel to the event.
 
Reactions: Otis

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #233
Johnnythespider said:
One question that this raises for me is, how often are these clearly dangerous individuals allowed to attend events like this, wouldn't they be better held at secure institutions where those hoping to learn something travel to the event.
Click to expand...
My question is was a this a one in a million meeting of two dangerous people meeting that have been released from prison early or are they all over the place.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #234
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
A single heroic act makes you a hero for that single act. It's literally written in there!
Click to expand...
Ok so in my scenario u wud call the terrorist a hero
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #235
Astute said:
Well yes.

A murderer released early on day release helped stop a terrorist known to be a danger released early from murdering more people.

I know why people have a problem agreeing with each other as I can't even agree with myself.
Click to expand...
Yep
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #236
clint van damme said:
The young lads father has said he does not want his son's death to be used to introduce more draconian sentencing.

Just adds to the complexity of an already complex issue.
Click to expand...
Not in Grendels black and white existence
 
Reactions: Astute

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #237
Johnnythespider said:
One question that this raises for me is, how often are these clearly dangerous individuals allowed to attend events like this, wouldn't they be better held at secure institutions where those hoping to learn something travel to the event.
Click to expand...
I would imagine they happen a lot and nothing like this happens
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #238
Otis said:
First victim named.

BBC News - London Bridge attack victim named as Jack Merritt


London Bridge attack victim named

RIP
Click to expand...
Just reading about what he was involved in what an absolute star!! The world will be poorer from his death but lives have already been changed by his compassion and commitment to helping convicted prisoners to change their lives from their mistakes
 
Reactions: Astute and Otis

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #239
covcity4life said:
And now you have more info

Do you think a murder of disabled girl is a hero?
Click to expand...
I’m playing catch up on this thread. But it is semantics, has he done a heroic thing or is he a hero?

Can someone who has served 15 years in jail be rehabilitated? Or no matter what he murdered a girl that girl who had special needs?

If rehabilitation doesn’t work, or we as a society don’t believe it, then why do we do it?

I feel that some of this conversation is detracting that 2 people went to work on a Friday and they have been brutally murdered and will never go home.
 
Reactions: Astute, shmmeee, Sky Blue Pete and 1 other person

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #240
LastGarrison said:
I’m playing catch up on this thread. But it is semantics, has he done a heroic thing or is he a hero?

Can someone who has served 15 years in jail be rehabilitated? Or no matter what he murdered a girl that girl who had special needs?

If rehabilitation doesn’t work, or we as a society don’t believe it, then why do we do it?

I feel that some of this conversation is detracting that 2 people went to work on a Friday and they have been brutally murdered and will never go home.
Click to expand...
Yup. Couldn't agree more. No idea why we are trying to score brownie points over a word.

We shall be eternally grateful for all members of the public who intervened, subdued and pinned this terrorist down, therefore allowing the police to act.
 
Reactions: Astute and Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #241
LastGarrison said:
I’m playing catch up on this thread. But it is semantics, has he done a heroic thing or is he a hero?

Can someone who has served 15 years in jail be rehabilitated? Or no matter what he murdered a girl that girl who had special needs?

If rehabilitation doesn’t work, or we as a society don’t believe it, then why do we do it?

I feel that some of this conversation is detracting that 2 people went to work on a Friday and they have been brutally murdered and will never go home.
Click to expand...
Yep fair comment especially as one of them died giving others a fresh start
 
Reactions: Otis

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #242
Johnson personally warned about risks of freeing terrorists but said there’s ‘no money’ to deradicalise them, ex-prosecutor says

Interesting
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #243
Sky Blue Pete said:
Johnson personally warned about risks of freeing terrorists but said there’s ‘no money’ to deradicalise them, ex-prosecutor says

Interesting
Click to expand...

Not really. Why should we spend money on them?

I wish Patel would announce that once we are out of the Eu then we bring back the death penalty for these people

Why would you want to spend any tax payers money on human toilet like Khan?
 
B

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #244
Grendel said:
Not really. Why should we spend money on them?

I wish Patel would announce that once we are out of the Eu then we bring back the death penalty for these people

Why would you want to spend any tax payers money on human toilet like Khan?
Click to expand...

You asked for evidence that people had been wrongly executed. It was provided then you asked for evidence of miscarriages of justice for terrorism. It was provided again. Thoughts?
 
Reactions: GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee and Otis

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2019
  • #245
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You asked for evidence that people had been wrongly executed. It was provided then you asked for evidence of miscarriages of justice for terrorism. It was provided again. Thoughts?
Click to expand...
This guy was convicted for plotting terror attacks.

Seems Grendel would have liked to have seen him being given the death penalty for that. Where do we draw the line?

What about home grown, Nazi terror plotters? A 16 year old perhaps? Should he been given the death penalty too?

Teenage neo-Nazi convicted of planning terror attack targeting synagogues
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • 9
  • …
  • 14
Next
First Prev 7 of 14 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?