As RoS said things can happen and change sometimes out of the blue and a player can become star overnight and set up for life. I’ve seen Kasteneer play live twice, at Portsmouth and at Watford I thought his 20 minutes v Pompey he looked okay, Watford poor, but I still say he’s not a useless arse player wise in let’s say the Leigh Jenkinson mould just what Bobby Gould seen there god knows, with Kasteneer there’s a player there.
Your a bit harsh on poor Leigh Jenkinson, he had a career with over 250 games played, including around 30 for us.As RoS said things can happen and change sometimes out of the blue and a player can become star overnight and set up for life. I’ve seen Kasteneer play live twice, at Portsmouth and at Watford I thought his 20 minutes v Pompey he looked okay, Watford poor, but I still say he’s not a useless arse player wise in let’s say the Leigh Jenkinson mould just what Bobby Gould seen there god knows, with Kasteneer there’s a player there.
250 games and 3500 of the same step overYour a bit harsh on poor Leigh Jenkinson, he had a career with over 250 games played, including around 30 for us.
I can’t see Kastaneer getting anywhere near those kind of numbers.
Lol, The classic one trick pony!250 games and 3500 of the same step over
Your a bit harsh on poor Leigh Jenkinson, he had a career with over 250 games played, including around 30 for us.
I can’t see Kastaneer getting anywhere near those kind of numbers.
His attributes are well known. Maybe he just can't grasp tactical instruction?
A lot of nonsense here about Kasta having hardly played any games. I guess it was his record of appearances in top division Dutch and German teams that led to his very high FIFA ranking.
Kastaneer (aged 24): Games Top Tier: 52 2nd Tier: 31 Lower Tier: 19 All Internationals: 21 TOTAL 123 (16 goals)
Fank Dabo (aged 25): Games Top Tier: 34 2nd Tier: 28 Lower Tier: 32 All internationals: 11 TOTAL 130 (1 goal)
Liam Walsh (aged 23) Games Top Tier: 2 2nd Tier: 22 Lower Tier: 51 All internationals: 9 (?) TOTAL 84 (6 goals)
That is partly my point. Kastaneer must have started his senior career as a 16 year old, Walsh as a 19 year old and Dabo as 21 year old. It seems to be less a question of him never going to have a career, but that his career started very early and now seems to have stalled as his early promise has not really been fulfilled. But he is still only 24 and he clearly has ability. He seems to lost his desire.Your stats do not consider Dabo (2017 first loan) and Walsh (2016 first loan) spent years at clubs they were never going to play at. Walsh has only had 4 seasons of playing senior football and the same with Dabo. Kastaneer has had 8.
Digging around to find some sort of figures to desperately back up a failing argument is totally pointless.A lot of nonsense here about Kasta having hardly played any games. I guess it was his record of appearances in top division Dutch and German teams that led to his very high FIFA ranking.
Kastaneer (aged 24): Games Top Tier: 52 2nd Tier: 31 Lower Tier: 19 All Internationals: 21 TOTAL 123 (16 goals)
Fank Dabo (aged 25): Games Top Tier: 34 2nd Tier: 28 Lower Tier: 32 All internationals: 11 TOTAL 130 (1 goal)
Liam Walsh (aged 23) Games Top Tier: 2 2nd Tier: 22 Lower Tier: 51 All internationals: 9 (?) TOTAL 84 (6 goals)
Digging around to find some sort of figures to desperately back up a failing argument is totally pointless.
There's only 1 fact that matters, and that's that he isn't going to feature under MR!
He's throwing his own career away, while taking up a squad place that could be given to a younger talent who actually gives a shit and can be bothered to keep himself fit.
I doubt Robins is going to hold any youngsters back because of the presence of Kastaneer.Digging around to find some sort of figures to desperately back up a failing argument is totally pointless.
There's only 1 fact that matters, and that's that he isn't going to feature under MR!
He's throwing his own career away, while taking up a squad place that could be given to a younger talent who actually gives a shit and can be bothered to keep himself fit.
To MR's credit, he doesn't seem be holding back the youngsters. He may even be using Kastaneer as an example of what happens if you don't train hard to use your talent.I doubt Robins is going to hold any youngsters back because of the presence of Kastaneer.
I'm making the point that he ain't good enough.I imagine he’s totally free to go if anyone wanted him. It suggests no one does.
What are you on about? If you’re talking about how many appearances he has the appearance data is kind of key.
Sure. We're seeing Blaine Rowe and Bapaga in and amongst it now so I think the road map for talented youngsters is clearly still there.To MR's credit, he doesn't seem be holding back the youngsters. He may even be using Kastaneer as an example of what happens if you don't train hard to use your talent.
Whereas Shipley has played a full season in League 2, two in League one and now looks set to be fully involved as squad member in the Championship by training hard and raising his game season by season to match the improvement in the quality and level at which the team is playing.
There is less than a year between them in age, but Kastaneer's career is going the other way, despite succeeding early on. I think it was STP who said the younger players don't reckon Kastaneer. They must see he's wasting his talents and that makes them all more determined not to waste theirs. Maybe he's MR's secret weapon after all!
Lol, The classic one trick pony!
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