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Afterall, we all know how to win the World Cup with England after a few beers and because Southgate appears to know what he's doing, it does make me wonder if he's getting pissed on the job!
To be fair to Barry from Radford, he does take in a lot of games, and has Sky Sports on tap.
He lost us more points than gained last season although toward the end of the season he was fairly solid. If he could maintain that level then perhaps he could be ok in the league above but his consistency has always been his issue. I’d be happy with him as number 2, i still think we need an older, experienced head between the sticks.
What... like all the professionals of the game that voted him best keeper in the league, multiple Cov managers, and our current manger - who seems to have a decent enough grasp on what he’s doing, and played at the highest level in English football.Or maybe it's the other way round! Those that rate Burge are the clueless ones??? Ever thought of that?
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Several cov managers.What... like all the professionals of the game that voted him best keeper in the league, multiple Cov managers, and our current manger - who seems to have a decent enough grasp on what he’s doing, and played at the highest level in English football.
Several cov managers.
Ok let's look this way.
Presley, didn't have much choice. It was clear we had no money and the owners were more concerned with sixfields than the team.
Mowbray, clear that a GK wasn't his priority as his type of play was 'score more than we concede'.
Venus, didn't have a choice.
Slade, the less said about that the better.
Robins, one of his 1st signings was LOB. Gives you an idea of how much trust he had in Burge
It was also clear that Mowbray preferred RCC to Burge.
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I don't think he worse. At some point will get his chance again I think. Bit if rivalry for top spot is next best thing if we don't bring in a new keeperIn my opinion O'Brien was bought in to take Burges place as number 1... just turns out he was even shitter! I would be amazed if we weren't chasing one.
I think the signing of LOB was more an indication of how Robins felt about RCC than his opinion on Burge. The fact that there seems to be no movement on bringing in a keeper to replace him, plus the fact that whenever LOB played he was replaced as soon as Burge was fit would seem to indicate that Robins still rates Burge. I think Burge did enough last season to justify his start as number one for this season. There is a perverse pleasure for me in him getting the League Two award and in seeming to have the confidence of Robins. That is because along with Haynes and Biamou he could never do anything right for some posters. I feel that rather than supporting him and the other two there was/is a certain amount of glee in being able to pick on him for mistakes, imaginary mistakes ( goal conceded at home to Stevenage) or even no mistakes at all simply because it is Burge.Several cov managers.
Ok let's look this way.
Presley, didn't have much choice. It was clear we had no money and the owners were more concerned with sixfields than the team.
Mowbray, clear that a GK wasn't his priority as his type of play was 'score more than we concede'.
Venus, didn't have a choice.
Slade, the less said about that the better.
Robins, one of his 1st signings was LOB. Gives you an idea of how much trust he had in Burge
It was also clear that Mowbray preferred RCC to Burge.
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No, he signed LOB because there was interest in RCC and we could make some money for him. And he never replaced him with Burge as soon as he was fit. He replaced him after his 2nd clanger.I think the signing of LOB was more an indication of how Robins felt about RCC than his opinion on Burge. The fact that there seems to be no movement on bringing in a keeper to replace him, plus the fact that whenever LOB played he was replaced as soon as Burge was fit would seem to indicate that Robins still rates Burge. I think Burge did enough last season to justify his start as number one for this season. There is a perverse pleasure for me in him getting the League Two award and in seeming to have the confidence of Robins. That is because along with Haynes and Biamou he could never do anything right for some posters. I feel that rather than supporting him and the other two there was/is a certain amount of glee in being able to pick on him for mistakes, imaginary mistakes ( goal conceded at home to Stevenage) or even no mistakes at all simply because it is Burge.
I hope he goes on to become a really solid goalkeeper for us or even better. This would obviously be good for the club. Can every other poster put hand on heart and say that they have the same hope?
I thought that RCC went for free, I didn’t think there was a fee involved. Strange decision for Swindon to pay a fee for a player and then release him for nothing after less than a season.No, he signed LOB because there was interest in RCC and we could make some money for him. And he never replaced him with Burge as soon as he was fit. He replaced him after his 2nd clanger.
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I think the signing of LOB was more an indication of how Robins felt about RCC than his opinion on Burge. The fact that there seems to be no movement on bringing in a keeper to replace him, plus the fact that whenever LOB played he was replaced as soon as Burge was fit would seem to indicate that Robins still rates Burge. I think Burge did enough last season to justify his start as number one for this season. There is a perverse pleasure for me in him getting the League Two award and in seeming to have the confidence of Robins. That is because along with Haynes and Biamou he could never do anything right for some posters. I feel that rather than supporting him and the other two there was/is a certain amount of glee in being able to pick on him for mistakes, imaginary mistakes ( goal conceded at home to Stevenage) or even no mistakes at all simply because it is Burge.
I hope he goes on to become a really solid goalkeeper for us or even better. This would obviously be good for the club. Can every other poster put hand on heart and say that they have the same hope?
Yes he was injured for the FIRST game of the season but LOB played the 1st 4 or 5 and was only dropped because of his clangers NOT because Burge was fit as you like to think. Robins even said he'd started with LOB so will keep his faith with him until proven otherwise. He proved otherwise and Burge came back in. However had LOB had continued getting clean sheets (nor had clangers) I doubt Burge would of got back in.I thought that RCC went for free, I didn’t think there was a fee involved. Strange decision for Swindon to pay a fee for a player and then release him for nothing after less than a season.
That is beside the point really as it was clear that Burge was Robin’s number one from the previous season (not even playing RCC at Wembley when he had played in the other Checkatrade games). Burge was injured at the start of the season so couldn’t play. The chances are he would have been first choice if fit. He could hardly drop a player after the first game or two when he had at that stage done nothing wrong. However, even when LOB played well after the initial four games, (Walsall in the Checkatrade, Crewe away in the league) Burge came straight back in.
but the truth gets in the way of the ramblings of those that don’t rate burge... so they just make stuff up LOLI thought that RCC went for free, I didn’t think there was a fee involved. Strange decision for Swindon to pay a fee for a player and then release him for nothing after less than a season.
That is beside the point really as it was clear that Burge was Robin’s number one from the previous season (not even playing RCC at Wembley when he had played in the other Checkatrade games). Burge was injured at the start of the season so couldn’t play. The chances are he would have been first choice if fit. He could hardly drop a player after the first game or two when he had at that stage done nothing wrong. However, even when LOB played well after the initial four games, (Walsall in the Checkatrade, Crewe away in the league) Burge came straight back in.
I think that’s unfairBurge was lucky he has a great defence in front of him last season. He was the same Burge who was awful the season we came down and had an awful defence in front of him with no shape etc.
All the top L1 and L2 keepers get taken by higher division teams??? Well according to some on here, Burge was the best keeper in L2 last season so where's the teams coming in for him?This is an interesting thread
Where are all the keepers who are miles better than Burge?
Any outstanding keeper in L1 or 2 is soon taken by a higher division side even though they may only be bought as backup
Even at the top level goalkeepers make cock ups
I'd say Burge made less errors than Joe Hart last year and he earns £120k a week
I thought Burge was the top League Two keeper? Just checked, can see no mention of a fee being paid for RCC?All the top L1 and L2 keepers get taken by higher division teams??? Well according to some on here, Burge was the best keeper in L2 last season so where's the teams coming in for him?
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I think this is a little mean spirited. If you wanted to look at the relegation season it would be easier to say who played well. Not many candidates for that. Willis was a member of that very poor defence but I think was tremendous last season and is probably first choice centre half and one of our most valuable saleable assets. Are we only giving Willis credit for this because of the players around him?Burge was lucky he has a great defence in front of him last season. He was the same Burge who was awful the season we came down and had an awful defence in front of him with no shape etc.
Well considering RCC still had a year to run on his contract I'd be very surprised if we let him leave on a free!I thought Burge was the top League Two keeper? Just checked, can see no mention of a fee being paid for RCC?
It would have been hard to drop a keeper who had not made a mistake or conceded in the first two league games. Not a message that Robins would want to give out. However RCC was on the bench for the first three games so Burge wasn’t fit or available for selection. League game three, LOB messed up against Newport. League game four he messed up against Yeovil. League game five a fit again Burge returned and was played in every league game afterwards when fit. I make the same suggestion. Had Burge been fit for game one he would have played.
Do you not trust and respect Mark Robin’s opinion of Burge? If he went for another first choice keeper I would say fair enough, he feels he can replace Burge with someone better. The fact that this doesn’t seem to be the case makes it seem as if you are doubting Robin’s judgement. As you said however, Pressley, Venus and Slade all preferred Burge. Even under Mowbray he was first choice until he got injured and RCC had the record breaking run of clean sheets and kept his place.
You would surely join with me and hope that Burge goes from strength to strength, becomes a very steady keeper or better as this is obviously good for the team and the club. If you don’t want this to be the case some might feel you have a downer on Burge even to the detriment of the team. Not the case surely, we all want what’s best for the team don’t we?
Not if Robin’s didn’t rate him, even as a number two. You do want Burge to improve and become a better keeper?Well considering RCC still had a year to run on his contract I'd be very surprised if we let him leave on a free!
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That’s websites for you, we all become managers, poor ones, some making instant knee jerk reactions and too pig headed to admit perhaps they were wrong. You mentioned Ben Turner he was slaughtered game after game on here.Wasn’t Burge 23 at the start of our relegation season? To imply someone of that age hasn’t improved over two seasons is ridiculous.
Some of our fans do this with every academy player to come through unless they’re a forward like Maddison (who has also improved massively in two years) or a special talent like. Bayliss. Turner was shit. Christie was shit. Wilson was shit. I think some just don’t get how a footballer develops, they see Mbappe and think everyone should be finished by 19.
I remember a game against Leeds on a Friday night in 1968/69 with 40,000 at HR which we lost 0-1 due to a Glazier howler and the Pink/CET headline was 'Bill Boobs'. But I'm sure he played next game. Other than Bob Wesson and Allan Dickie, I can't remember any of Glazier's understudies and none of them could have played many games in that capacity.I recently read Jim Brown’s book on the 1967 Second Division winning team. He gives accounts of the games as the season progresses. There must have been four or five occasions in that season where Bill Glazier was perceived as being at fault for a goal conceded. I would think that this would be similar to Burge’s mistakes that lead to goals last season. Now anyone who saw Bill play would rate him as a great goalie, one of the best, if not the best, that we have had. I am not comparing Burge to Glazier as he is no where near that level (yet?), just saying that even the best are far from perfect. In Glazier’s day very few games were televised so mistakes were not highlighted so much. Also there was no social media to get likeminded fans together.
Several cov managers.
Ok let's look this way.
Presley, didn't have much choice. It was clear we had no money and the owners were more concerned with sixfields than the team.
Mowbray, clear that a GK wasn't his priority as his type of play was 'score more than we concede'.
Venus, didn't have a choice.
Slade, the less said about that the better.
Robins, one of his 1st signings was LOB. Gives you an idea of how much trust he had in Burge
It was also clear that Mowbray preferred RCC to Burge.
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If he continues to improve it will happenAll the top L1 and L2 keepers get taken by higher division teams??? Well according to some on here, Burge was the best keeper in L2 last season so where's the teams coming in for him?
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Spot on - the only other keeper I remember playing during Bill Glaziers time was.....Neil Ramsbottom, who had a great game when he deputised.I remember a game against Leeds on a Friday night in 1968/69 with 40,000 at HR which we lost 0-1 due to a Glazier howler and the Pink/CET headline was 'Bill Boobs'. But I'm sure he played next game. Other than Bob Wesson and Allan Dickie, I can't remember any of Glazier's understudies and none of them could have played many games in that capacity.
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