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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Evo1883 said:
Fair enough on the Watkins contract length , I doubt you'd find many people willing to take wood over vik .. would you for example rather wood here or vik ?

He's shit
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I wouldn't have Chris Wood over Gyok, but that's purely based on the way we have tailored our play to Gyok and his importance on and off the ball, a completely different player to Chris Wood who wouldn't give you what Gyok does.

I hope Mark and Adi have a solution in mind for when inevitably Vik leaves.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #1,997
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hamer signed a new contract in March 2022!
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Valid point - forgot about that. The one year extension was very short sighted
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, bizarrely. Some people didn’t want to give hamer a new contract last time. That’s probably secured us a few million on it’s own
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Without King popping up and allowing us to sign McNally, I reckon the fire sale of Hyam to pay for Hamer's new contract put us in a far more vulnerable position, however, than if we'd sold Hamer.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Valid point - forgot about that. The one year extension was very short sighted
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What if he won't sign for more than that?
 
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GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Good job we didn't sell Gyokeres and Hamer when they had longer on their contracts though, as we'd have got less than we will now...
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Funnily enough it’s such a sellers market that barely matters.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,001
AFCCOVENTRY said:
I don’t think it’s good for Vik to be at the same club as Isak. He will be behind him in the pecking order and Vik needs to lead the line and be the star striker. Especially for international caps as well.
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It's also worth noting that whenever I've seen Isak play, he has always strayed to the left side of midfield/attack. Very similar to another Swede we've been talking about.

Can't imagine Newcastle dumping £20mill on a player who would effectively be a backup for another they spent £70mill on.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
What if he won't sign for more than that?
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Good point - suppose I’m forgetting the position changed since last season I.E King in for SISU
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Without King popping up and allowing us to sign McNally, I reckon the fire sale of Hyam to pay for Hamer's new contract put us in a far more vulnerable position, however, than if we'd sold Hamer.
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Haha, all ifs and buts though mate

No chance we’d have got to play offs without hamer and with Hyam. Might even have got to Prem if hamer hadn’t got injured
 
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CCFCSteve said:
Haha, all ifs and buts mate

No chance we’d have got to play offs without hamer and with Hyam. Might even have got to Prem if hamer hadn’t got injured
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No chance we'd have got to the playoffs with the defence as it was in December, either. More likely to be doomed, doomed I tells ya
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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GaryPendrysEyes said:
Funnily enough it’s such a sellers market that barely matters.
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I honestly think it's overstated. The contract length's an issue if he has his heart set on one club, but other than that he'll be in enough demand that the price will end up fair-ish, you'd hope.

So unless Sporting Lisbon have totally sold him a dream, I could see him being open to other ambitious clubs too. I mean it works the other way too, do Sporting Lisbon want to miss out on their main target by waiting a year...? Does the manager, however highly rated he is, risk finishing fourth again next season in a three team league and therefore miss out on his own career progression?
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,006
Deleted member 5849 said:
I honestly think it's overstated. The contract length's an issue if he has his heart set on one club, but other than that he'll be in enough demand that the price will end up fair-ish, you'd hope.

So unless Sporting Lisbon have totally sold him a dream, I could see him being open to other ambitious clubs too. I mean it works the other way too, do Sporting Lisbon want to miss out on their main target by waiting a year...? Does the manager, however highly rated he is, risk finishing fourth again next season in a three team league and therefore miss out on his own career progression?
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Good points - well made! I think Vik could secure a contract with a PL club that will pay him far more than Sporting, so that would be a factor in his thinking.
Hopefully, one of the money bag teams in the PL pursue Vik.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,007
Evo1883 said:
Fair enough on the Watkins contract length , I doubt you'd find many people willing to take wood over vik .. would you for example rather wood here or vik ?

He's shit
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So shit that Premier league Burnley, Forest and champions league Newcastle paid for his services.
Dyche, Cooper and Howe know more than you do about the value of Wood.
still Vik all day long.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,008
Looks like hes off to Sporting pretty soon then.
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,009
Sporting to sell Ugarte
West Ham to sell Declan Rice

Surely we can get £20m out of these two clubs

You’d think Burnley, Brentford, Everton, Palace, Fulham & Wolves would all have an interest too


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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,010
Skybluedownunder said:
Sporting to sell Ugarte
West Ham to sell Declan Rice

Surely we can get £20m out of these two clubs

You’d think Burnley, Brentford, Everton, Palace, Fulham & Wolves would all have an interest too


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I'd be surprised if he went to Wolves. My Wolves supporting mates tell me they haven't got a pot to piss in and are really in trouble this year.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Not really, we could demand the 20m - sporting say right, we’re out, then tell his agent there’s an extra £5m waiting if you don’t sign for anyone until January then sign a pre-contract agreement with them.

we’re not in a position to throw offers like that away. You’re then left with a sulking player which I get the feeling Gyokeres is, causing issues within the team

we knew they were key players 18 month ago - the new deals should
Have been offered the start of last season
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How do you know that they weren't? I doubt any of us know anything like the full story with either player.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,012
Manuel Ugarte move to PSG from Sporting confirmed. Means Sporting will have the cash to make the move for Vik

 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,013
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Manuel Ugarte move to PSG from Sporting confirmed. Means Sporting will have the cash to make the move for Vik

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Who'd have thought we'd be in a transfer chain that involved Mbappe!

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Evo1883

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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NortonSkyBlue said:
So shit that Premier league Burnley, Forest and champions league Newcastle paid for his services.
Dyche, Cooper and Howe know more than you do about the value of Wood.
still Vik all day long.
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steve cooper

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,015
shmmeee said:
Just to drop this in there. “Mil” is Portugese is thousand.

As you were.
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So 700,000 euros at today's rate is just under £600,000, which translates to £11530 per week.
The post does say net but even so, I can't see Vik being interested in that salary.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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steve cooper said:
So 700,000 euros at today's rate is just under £600,000, which translates to £11530 per week.
The post does say net but even so, I can't see Vik being interested in that salary.
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The salary figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

If Vik joins Sporting there are lots of pros to it.

- Lisbon is a beautiful City.
- Sporting are historically one of the biggest clubs in Portugal.
- Sporting are always competing for domestic honours.
- Sporting have qualified for Europa League.
- Sporting have a history of developing players that sell hugely across the continent
- Sporting have an unbelievable stadium and a decent training ground.

Lots more I imagine to Vik choosing Sporting then just the salary.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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RoboCCFC90 said:
The salary figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

If Vik joins Sporting there are lots of cons to it.

- Lisbon is a beautiful City.
- Sporting are historically one of the biggest clubs in Portugal.
- Sporting are always competing for domestic honours.
- Sporting have qualified for Europa League.
- Sporting have a history of developing players that sell hugely across the continent
- Sporting have an unbelievable stadium and a decent training ground.

Lots more I imagine to Vik choosing Sporting then just the salary.
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They're reasons not to go there?!?
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,018
RoboCCFC90 said:
The salary figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

If Vik joins Sporting there are lots of cons to it.

- Lisbon is a beautiful City.
- Sporting are historically one of the biggest clubs in Portugal.
- Sporting are always competing for domestic honours.
- Sporting have qualified for Europa League.
- Sporting have a history of developing players that sell hugely across the continent
- Sporting have an unbelievable stadium and a decent training ground.

Lots more I imagine to Vik choosing Sporting then just the salary.
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You should get a job on the Sporting Lisbon tourist board.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
They're reasons not to go there?!?
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I typed it too fast while eating a sandwich, leave me be Punctuation Police
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,020
RoboCCFC90 said:
The salary figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

If Vik joins Sporting there are lots of pros to it.

- Lisbon is a beautiful City.
- Sporting are historically one of the biggest clubs in Portugal.
- Sporting are always competing for domestic honours.
- Sporting have qualified for Europa League.
- Sporting have a history of developing players that sell hugely across the continent
- Sporting have an unbelievable stadium and a decent training ground.

Lots more I imagine to Vik choosing Sporting then just the salary.
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Yes, that was the point of my post that the instagram message was in all likelyhood just guesswork. my earlier post in the thread would clarify that, and if he does sign for Sporting I'm sure it will be a good move for him.
However, a few alternative points to consider regarding your list of good points.
As lovely as Lisbon is, many younger people would prefer London.
There are only 3 or at most 4 big clubs in Portugal, the rest being approximately League 1 standard IMO
They are always competing for honours due to the overall poor standard of the league
West Ham are rumoured to be very interested, and IMO he will want to consider the move carefully if West Ham actually do come in for him.
This is an interesting read, probably just conjecture of course.

Prime Moyes striker target sends come and get me plea to West Ham

But 'secret' talks should be a big concern for the Hammers...
www.hammers.news
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Dacosta got a move to the Portuguese top flight when he was about fifth choice right back here
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Sky on West Ham's interest in Vik...

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Come on the hammers
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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I'm sure it's been said before but while Vik is on international duty, nothing is likely to happen. The processes involved would require him to be available in the location of the purchasing club.
In many transfers, the first thing we hear about it, is the player is undergoing a medical.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Lot of these so called interested clubs haven’t sorted their manager or 1st team coach yet including West Ham with the window open there will be rumours galore about him.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jun 15, 2023
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Here we go...
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,027
RoboCCFC90 said:

Here we go...
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probably the least reliable source ever.

I'd believe it more if Matt Smith posted it on here its that bad a source.
 
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Balli001

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,028
RoboCCFC90 said:

Here we go...
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The single worst made up account on twitter. Ill pass on beleiving that one for now...
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,029
RoboCCFC90 said:

Here we go...
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Automatic forum ban for anyone who posts Harriott tweets imo
 
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Greggs

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  • Jun 15, 2023
  • #2,030
Ccfcisparks said:
probably the least reliable source ever.

I'd believe it more if Matt Smith posted it on here its that bad a source.
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Glad you to are back at it again <3
 
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