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Gustavo Hamer - CONFIRMED (12 Viewers)

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higgs

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #281
better days said:
Kasta could be a terrific player
He's scored some incredible goals and has power other players can only dream of
He came here after his previous clubs had given up on him and as usual with such players he thought a change of club would bring out the best in him
Unfortunately his problem is entirely one of a bad attitude
He thinks he's better than this level
An attitude not shared by any of his teammates
When he was hauled off after 50 odd minutes in our thrashing at Rotherham not a single team mate acknowledged him
He had played entirely for himself and hadn't made any effort to help the team when we didn't have the ball
He was finished at the club that day
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Do u think he thinks championship is his level or does he think he's premiership quality? If ur not a team player then ur not going to last under robins

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junglej13

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #282
better days said:
Kasta could be a terrific player
He's scored some incredible goals and has power other players can only dream of
He came here after his previous clubs had given up on him and as usual with such players he thought a change of club would bring out the best in him
Unfortunately his problem is entirely one of a bad attitude
He thinks he's better than this level
An attitude not shared by any of his teammates
When he was hauled off after 50 odd minutes in our thrashing at Rotherham not a single team mate acknowledged him
He had played entirely for himself and hadn't made any effort to help the team when we didn't have the ball
He was finished at the club that day
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Sounds a little harsh @better days but a useful insight. That game was a complete freak in that I think all our individual errors were in that game. It did seem he wasn't trusted after that game though.
Have you heard any names or areas we might be looking this summer?
 

better days

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #283
junglej13 said:
Sounds a little harsh @better days but a useful insight. That game was a complete freak in that I think all our individual errors were in that game. It did seem he wasn't trusted after that game though.
Have you heard any names or areas we might be looking this summer?
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Once your teammates give up on you you're finished at a club
Kasta will probably end up like Ravel Morrison moving from club to club with the next manager always thinking he can get the best out of him
Haven't heard anything about new targets yet
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #284
Don't think Kastaneer will play a minute next season tbh
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #285
bawtryneal said:
Aledgedly MR is interested in Marc Pugh from QPR to play alongside him.
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33 years old can’t see it but could be wrong just released by QPR
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #286
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Don't think Kastaneer will play a minute next season tbh
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agreed.

think jobello wont be far behind either
 

better days

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #287
ccfcway said:
agreed.

think jobello wont be far behind either
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Jobello is popular with his teammates
 

ccfcway

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #288
better days said:
Jobello is popular with his teammates
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so is sky blues sam
 
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Perryccfc

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #289
Think Jobello will have a part to play next season.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #290
As much as Jobello may be popular with the players/manager if we carry on with this formation he's going to have to alter his game to fit in
 
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slyblue57

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #291
jordan210 said:
Looking at transfer market this will be our most expensive transfer in over 15 years
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There is no way that the fee will be over £350000 up front , mite be add ons but the £1.5 Million no chance.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #292
Don’t see us changing formation tbh unless Jobello can play in the advanced midfield position (the box) I don’t see where he features he didn’t really get going but I do think there is a player in there.

That goes for Jodi Jones also although I feel we were using him in under 23’s in that advanced midfield position we have plenty of options in midfield if we also sign either O’Hare or Walsh.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #293
slyblue57 said:
There is no way that the fee will be over £350000 up front , mite be add ons but the £1.5 Million no chance.
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Yes it will have been financed correct for sure I think your figures won’t be far off £350k up front the rest add ons etc
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #294
QUOTE="cc84cov, post: 2017719, member: 9904"]Don’t see us changing formation tbh unless Jobello can play in the advanced midfield position (the box) I don’t see where he features he didn’t really get going but I do think there is a player in there.

That goes for Jodi Jones also although I feel we were using him in under 23’s in that advanced midfield position we have plenty of options in midfield if we also sign either O’Hare or Walsh.[/QUOTE]

While we will are likely to start next season with the formation we finished with this season, I think Jobello will still have a role to play. We saw this season that you need fluid options to change formation if things are going against you in a match. That's how we ended up playing 3 centre backs in the first place. If we are chasing the game, or want to stretch tired defenders, he would be an ideal option off the bench. Unlike Kastaneer who appears to lack confidence and perhaps sulks a little, Jobello appears to be the opposite, and I think MR rates him too. In regards to Jones, I could definitely envisage him playing the number 10 role, just behind our main striker, which is where I also think Bapaga will be played in the under 23's.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #295
cc84cov said:
33 years old can’t see it but could be wrong just released by QPR
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Just doesn't fit into the transfer model the club have so I don't see it myself. Don't want to return to those days of signings aging pros like Michael Hughes and Colin Cameron, who tend to hold young players back, rather than improve them.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #296
Legia Sky Blue said:
Just doesn't fit into the transfer model the club have so I don't see it myself. Don't want to return to those days of signings aging pros like Michael Hughes and Colin Cameron, who tend to hold young players back, rather than improve them.
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Agreed
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #297
cc84cov said:
Agreed
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I think the poster saw somebody on twitter mention him and decided we must be interested in him. Doubt there's anything in this
 

mrtrench

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #298
Legia Sky Blue said:
Just doesn't fit into the transfer model the club have so I don't see it myself. Don't want to return to those days of signings aging pros like Michael Hughes and Colin Cameron, who tend to hold young players back, rather than improve them.
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I agree on approach. I just wonder though if Robins sees a role for a very good elder statesman who could improve the team and younger players, albeit probably only for one or two seasons. Not all 33 year olds are knackered - just look at ow much Gordon Strachan improved a Premiership side when he played at 40.
 

larry_david

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #299
We probably do need experienced pros in there who can still compete. Championship is full of bang average players like Pugh though. Think we lose our identity if we start stockpiling those sort of players.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #300
mrtrench said:
I agree on approach. I just wonder though if Robins sees a role for a very good elder statesman who could improve the team and younger players, albeit probably only for one or two seasons. Not all 33 year olds are knackered - just look at ow much Gordon Strachan improved a Premiership side when he played at 40.
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And more recently - Wise and Hutchinson
 
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cc84cov

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #301
mrtrench said:
I agree on approach. I just wonder though if Robins sees a role for a very good elder statesman who could improve the team and younger players, albeit probably only for one or two seasons. Not all 33 year olds are knackered - just look at ow much Gordon Strachan improved a Premiership side when he played at 40.
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We have Liam Kelly & Mcfadz for that
 
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mrtrench

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #302
larry_david said:
We probably do need experienced pros in there who can still compete. Championship is full of bang average players like Pugh though. Think we lose our identity if we start stockpiling those sort of players.
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I don't know him at all. If he is mediocre then I agree. The internet tells us that he has been praised for performances for QPR by fans. But whether that's just a few games or consistent high performances, I just don't know.
 
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Alex1987

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #303
mrtrench said:
I don't know him at all. If he is mediocre then I agree. The internet tells us that he has been praised for performances for QPR by fans. But whether that's just a few games or consistent high performances, I just don't know.
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Heard he is the ultimate pro (from a friend of a friend) and isn't the sort looking for a pay day as such. Super fit and wants to play til he is 40. Take him here any day of the week
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #304
Mark Pugh is too old, too expensive and very ordinary ...he is certainly no Gordon Strachan!!
Apart from that this rumour has a lot going for it!!
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #305
bawtryneal said:
Aledgedly MR is interested in Marc Pugh from QPR to play alongside him.
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Robins wants to sign Pugh, who is a winger, to play in CM alongside Hamer? Not happening.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #306
Alex1987 said:
Heard he is the ultimate pro (from a friend of a friend) and isn't the sort looking for a pay day as such. Super fit and wants to play til he is 40. Take him here any day of the week
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No thanks. Average player on no doubt substantial wages. Rather keep to the current policy

Just found a site suggesting he is on 30k per week
 

PCH

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #307
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
And more recently - Wise and Hutchinson
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Don Hutchinson was different class but didn’t work too well as he seemed to get frustrated as the team wasn’t on his level
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #308
PCH said:
Don Hutchinson was different class but didn’t work too well as he seemed to get frustrated as the team wasn’t on his level
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I found that first point was the same with Joe Cole
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #309
mrtrench said:
I agree on approach. I just wonder though if Robins sees a role for a very good elder statesman who could improve the team and younger players, albeit probably only for one or two seasons. Not all 33 year olds are knackered - just look at ow much Gordon Strachan improved a Premiership side when he played at 40.
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I think Kelly is that person, who isn't that old. Fadz could do the same in defence but I could see him moving in Jan for game time - I think Championship may prove a bit too quick for him but a good experienced head for Hyam, Rose and Pask to learn from. Hyam and Rose aren't exactly young and inexperienced.
 
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Samo

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #310
Garryb80 said:
No thanks. Average player on no doubt substantial wages. Rather keep to the current policy

Just found a site suggesting he is on 30k per week
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That doesn't mean he'd be expecting that here. (obviously)
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #311
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
And more recently - Wise and Hutchinson
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Strachan, Hutchison and Wise were all internationals who had plied their trade at 'big' clubs, and were a whole different level from Pugh. I just don't see it happening, but to be fair if MR decided he was the right man for us then I'm not going to argue with him.

I think we all need to take stock a little and realise that while we will bring in maybe 6 players this Summer, we will be linked with 10 times that number, more often than not tenuously, with rumours driven by desperate agents, desperate clubs looking to sell, and internet fantasists relating Football Manager performance to reality. It's always wise to not get too carried away either way, until those players are pictured next to MR holding up a City scarf.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #312
Samo said:
That doesn't mean he'd be expecting that here. (obviously)
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But he would be wanting something more than I'd want us to pay
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #313
Think we could do with 1 or 2 championship experienced players
 
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Samo

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #314
Garryb80 said:
But he would be wanting something more than I'd want us to pay
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Well its a take it or leave it situation; depends what the player is looking for and what stage of his career he is at.
I'm pretty sure we didn't pay Denis Wise or Joe Cole what they had been earning at Chelsea!
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jun 14, 2020
  • #315
Veteran players tend to be signed to play not bench warm
 
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