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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #71
Evo1883 said:
People know my feelings about world class today as opposed to world class 15 years ago .. this kind of proves that .
Neither to me are world class
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Read my post mate. I didn’t say they were world class now but they have the potential to be in the future.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #72
Ccfcisparks said:
Get watching them mate some real top players there. Grealish and Foden are going to be world class players.
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Grealish is 25, is he going to be like Lingard who is promising forever. Foden has potential for sure. The other ones you mentioned would get nowhere near a top quality international team. Imagine if Declan Rice was Spanish.
 

Paxman II

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #73
This is boring. San marino for goodness sake and here we are passing it sideways, backwards, probing instead of chucking it in the box every time where calvert-lewin would love the chance to get a goal. It's just too much respect to amateurs. We should be coring at will and 8 nil up by now. These games are so pathetic. But even against this lot England look too stiff and serious. We will never win anything while we have this stiffling bunch of coahing and managers towing the FA line. Can't watch it. Look forward to Poland where we will lose most likely.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #74
Have England ever had a worse selection of centre halves
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #75
Liquid Gold said:
Grealish is 25, is he going to be like Lingard who is promising forever. Foden has potential for sure. The other ones you mentioned would get nowhere near a top quality international team. Imagine if Declan Rice was Spanish.
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Rodri plays that role for Spain now I believe unless busquets still plays internationally

I used to say , if Ashley Cole was Italian he'd be regarded by many as an all time great ...I mean to some he is ...but he was never truly appreciated by many England fans

Phenomenal left back
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #76
Liquid Gold said:
Grealish is 25, is he going to be like Lingard who is promising forever. Foden has potential for sure. The other ones you mentioned would get nowhere near a top quality international team. Imagine if Declan Rice was Spanish.
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Declan rice is a really good player, had a great season for West Ham and been a major catalyst in getting them into a battle for Europe.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #77
Another fantastic prospect in Bellingham coming on
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #78
Ccfcisparks said:
Another fantastic prospect in Bellingham coming on
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Yea I agree ..he's more a central midfielder than what we started with too tbh
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #79
Evo1883 said:
Yea I agree ..he's more a central midfielder than what we started with too tbh
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He’s in that Gerrard/lampard mould, just got to reach his potential
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #80
Ccfcisparks said:
Another fantastic prospect in Bellingham coming on
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I'm old enough now to be sick of being England having so many prospects. Feel like the people of this country have goldfish memory and think "In 4 years time this team will be scary" in perpetuity and it never comes round.

We have 1 world class player in Kane, some decent prospects and, according to you, 1 25 year old prospect.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #81
Ccfcisparks said:
He’s in that Gerrard/lampard mould, just got to reach his potential
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You will know if he's going to be good enough as bayern will sign him lol
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #82
Liquid Gold said:
I'm old enough now to be sick of being England having so many prospects. Feel like the people of this country have goldfish memory and think "In 4 years time this team will be scary" in perpetuity and it never comes round.

We have 1 world class player in Kane, some decent prospects and, according to you, 1 25 year old prospect.
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Do you remember when we had a side full of world class players and still couldn't win nothing .. tragedy really
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #83
Liquid Gold said:
I'm old enough now to be sick of being England having so many prospects. Feel like the people of this country have goldfish memory and think "In 4 years time this team will be scary" in perpetuity and it never comes round.

We have 1 world class player in Kane, some decent prospects and, according to you, 1 25 year old prospect.
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Given that you admitted you don’t watch Premier League football, I’m taking your comment with a pinch of salt.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #84
Evo1883 said:
Do you remember when we had a side full of world class players and still couldn't win nothing .. tragedy really
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The golden generation was a couple of top CDs way too many great CMs that we tried to force into the team then average bit part players. In WC 2006 we played Paul Robinson, Joe Cole, Gary Neville, Owen Hargreaves, Aaron Lennon, Peter Crouch etc.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #85
Ccfcisparks said:
Given that you admitted you don’t watch Premier League football, I’m taking your comment with a pinch of salt.
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It's fair enough, I'm taking it with a pinch of salt too but it's just the same stuff you hear about England teams every 4 years and it never comes though.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #86
Liquid Gold said:
I'm old enough now to be sick of being England having so many prospects. Feel like the people of this country have goldfish memory and think "In 4 years time this team will be scary" in perpetuity and it never comes round.

We have 1 world class player in Kane, some decent prospects and, according to you, 1 25 year old prospect.
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Sterling is world class for me. To me that means they would get into any team in the world and I think Sterling does. Kane probably does other than Bayern too.
 

SBAndy

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #87
Paxman II said:
This is boring. San marino for goodness sake and here we are passing it sideways, backwards, probing instead of chucking it in the box every time where calvert-lewin would love the chance to get a goal. It's just too much respect to amateurs. We should be coring at will and 8 nil up by now. These games are so pathetic. But even against this lot England look too stiff and serious. We will never win anything while we have this stiffling bunch of coahing and managers towing the FA line. Can't watch it. Look forward to Poland where we will lose most likely.
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Absolute waffle. We’ve created about 20 chances so far.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #88
One good thing is players heading to different countries. We've always suffered from a lack of experience of different playing cultures so hopefully more get out there instead of taking the inflated PL wages.

Could do with a couple in Italy and Spain instead of just Germany though.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #89
Boosh said:
Sterling is world class for me. To me that means they would get into any team in the world and I think Sterling does. Kane probably does other than Bayern too.
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Henderson also very underrated for me too. Not saying he’d get in every team in the world but there would be few teams he’d make worse.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #90
Boosh said:
Sterling is world class for me. To me that means they would get into any team in the world and I think Sterling does. Kane probably does other than Bayern too.
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To be honest ..I think Kane would score just as many as lewandowski in that team

It's tailor made for a kane/ lewa type striker
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #91
Evo1883 said:
To be honest ..I think Kane would score just as many as lewandowski in that team

It's tailor made for a kane/ lewa type striker
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Yeah I think they are on par.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #92
England 2004 had plenty of world class talent problem is so did the other top teams
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #93
Like France , who we actually gifted a match within 3 minutes
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #94
Evo1883 said:
Like France , who we actually gifted a match within 3 minutes View attachment 19323
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Some team that
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #95
Ccfcisparks said:
Some team that
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They were better in 2000 and 98 tbh ...this was the end of their golden generation but still a good side

Had a Frightening team in 98
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #96
Evo1883 said:
They were better in 2000 and 98 tbh ...this was the end of their golden generation but still a good side

Had a Frightening team in 98
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I wish I got to see the best of Zidane. There’s so many players you can get a taste of through highlight clips but still feel like I’m not getting the full experience
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #97
Ccfcisparks said:
I wish I got to see the best of Zidane. There’s so many players you can get a taste of through highlight clips but still feel like I’m not getting the full experience
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Was better than Ronaldinho for me ..or was better for longer is the best way to put it

Elegant brilliance
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #98
Evo1883 said:
Was better than Ronaldinho for me ..or was better for longer is the best way to put it

Elegant brilliance
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Zidane, Henry in his pomp, Brazilian Ronaldo, gazza, a lot of players I wish to have seen
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #99
Evo1883 said:
England 2004 had plenty of world class talent problem is so did the other top teams View attachment 19322
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Great players but just no balance. Need to drop two of those midfielders.
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #100
Their keeper MotM for me so far.
 

bringbackrattles

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #101
Robins get the San Marino keeper signed up !
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #102
Liquid Gold said:
Great players but just no balance. Need to drop two of those midfielders.
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I agree with the balance part
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #103
Ccfcisparks said:
Zidane, Henry in his pomp, Brazilian Ronaldo, gazza, a lot of players I wish to have seen
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How old are you mate

Brazilian ronaldo was a god in my eyes ...unreal player..the perfect number 9
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #104
Evo1883 said:
How old are you mate

Brazilian ronaldo was a god in my eyes ...unreal player
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I’ve just turned 23, so I’d say my first real season of watching would have been around 2006/07

from what I’ve seen Ronaldo had similar problems with attitude and fitness like Ronaldinho, guess it’s a common theme with South American’s.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2021
  • #105
Evo1883 said:
How old are you mate

Brazilian ronaldo was a god in my eyes ...unreal player..the perfect number 9
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It was like he was playing Fifa on easy mode, could just walk through people.
 
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