Do you want to discuss boring politics? (12 Viewers)

[SBAndy]

Someone needs to develop and convincingly present / promote an alternative vision without making those who need to change their stance feel that they are being patronise or having the wool pulled over their eyes. Starmer hasn’t got the oratory or commitment to do it. The persuasion skills or rhetoric in reality and every week that goes without some significant impact on the boat gangs him and his team are in a less convincing position.

We don’t agree on much but I think we do on this. The current government don’t seem capable of telling their story, regardless of what they’ve achieved (or, indeed in your view, not achieved).

The only issue is that people seem to feel expertise is elitist nonsense. I really don’t see how you persuade people who don’t want to be persuaded and won’t have it that someone knows more about a subject than them.

 

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[Captain Dart]

lick to see how reform cop emptying bins lol when they want to gut council spending

I think the main fiscal targets will be DEI and Climate expenditures. They may or may not make any difference and the unions will probably want to fuck them up.

 

[MalcSB]

We don’t agree on much but I think we do on this. The current government don’t seem capable of telling their story, regardless of what they’ve achieved (or, indeed in your view, not achieved).

The only issue is that people seem to feel expertise is elitist nonsense. I really don’t see how you persuade people who don’t want to be persuaded and won’t have it that someone knows more about a subject than them.

I’m not sure that the only issue is expertise being seen as elitist nonsense, an equal issue is surely the opposite view. I.e. th uneducated are neanderthals who adopt a right wing and racist philosophy to explain issues which concern them but seem beyond their ken to resolve.

The current government haven’t achieved enough to make them more appealing to whom they need to garner solid votes from which will be inherited from one generation to another (neither have the Tories). What appears to be a change in the nature of domestic political structures would suggest that the old approaches may need revision.

 

[MalcSB]

I think the main fiscal targets will be DEI and Climate expenditures. They may or may not make any difference and the unions will probably want to fuck them up.

Those priorities sound like personal wants and not necessarily priorities to address the concerns of the right wing “knuckle draggers”.

 

[shmmeee]

I think the main fiscal targets will be DEI and Climate expenditures. They may or may not make any difference and the unions will probably want to fuck them up.

EDI. We’re in the UK. If you’re going to import US politics at least translate it.

And the fact you haven’t even bothered to google what the impact of the policy you support is says it all. The impact, not that you care because this is about virtue signalling, ranges from 0% to 0.02% of council budgets. Just a fundamentally unserious policy. He should go back to demanding taxi drivers wear hats.

 

[Captain Dart]

Those priorities sound like personal wants and not necessarily priorities to address the concerns of the right wing “knuckle draggers”.

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Those priorities sound like personal wants and not necessarily priorities to address the concerns of the right wing “knuckle draggers”.

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I'd give up the remote mind reading young man you are shit at it. I got my clues from a statement Farage made earlier today.

 

[Captain Dart]

EDI. We’re in the UK. If you’re going to import US politics at least translate it.

And the fact you haven’t even bothered to google what the impact of the policy you support is says it all. The impact, not that you care because this is about virtue signalling, ranges from 0% to 0.02% of council budgets. Just a fundamentally unserious policy. He should go back to demanding taxi drivers wear hats.

Why should I? I have no influence on what happens. Weird.

 

[Sick Boy]

I'd give up the remote mind reading young man you are shit at it. I got my clues from a statement Farage made earlier today.

So he’s just parroting Trump and Americanisms. How patriotic.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The use of the word “charismatic” decimates UK left wing politicians from potential candidates for such a role.

How’s you?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Typical left!
You can't call me a hurty name but you're a racist, bigot, stupid, thick, uneducated!

Whether you like Donald Trump or not, to sit on a football forum and call him a "not very bright person" is fucking hilarious! He's a fucking billionaire businessman. Not sure many stoopid people manage to make $5b+ in business do they?


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You really don't help yourself do you?

Anyone who has paid even one iota of attention knows that Donald Trump has an inherited fortune and that had that money been put into a bank account with nominal interest he'd be far richer than he currently is. He's had numerous businesses go bankrupt (including casinos ffs!)

 

[Sick Boy]

Typical left!
You can't call me a hurty name but you're a racist, bigot, stupid, thick, uneducated!

Whether you like Donald Trump or not, to sit on a football forum and call him a "not very bright person" is fucking hilarious! He's a fucking billionaire businessman. Not sure many stoopid people manage to make $5b+ in business do they?


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He inherited hundreds of millions of Dollars ffs.

 

[Ashdown]

He inherited hundreds of millions of Dollars ffs.

Stop crying about politics and enjoy the win you daft c**t, you’re just an immigrant yourself!

 

[Sick Boy]

Stop crying about politics and enjoy the win you daft c**t, you’re just an immigrant yourself!

What?

 

[Captain Dart]

My god, what will Starmer's caring party do next? Their priorities are all wrong.

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