Grendel
Well-Known Member
no that’s not cancel culture
Thefuck is it ‘cancel culture’
It’s about understanding and acknowledging that people have spent decades fighting mindless discrimination that’s unfairly kept them from earning opportunities in life.
Things are far from perfect but most (not all) of society has moved towards embracing change.
Public figures that use their privilege to make bigot-laced statements are actually canceling themselves.
I actually don't mind Clive, he's alot better than many local radio hosts when I listen on the way back from games
If he was a coventry fan I suspect people would feel differently about him
Indeed. Think he has become a bit of a closet Cov fan as he’s been doing it for so long.I don't think you could have covered every home and away game for as long as he has, through the grimmest of times and not have some attachment to the club.
I knew some telephone engineers who were Villa fans and hooked up a loudspeaker to Ron's phone in the exchange to see if they could find out transfer info. All they got all the time was his wife unhappy what Ron was upto with his extra cirricular marriage activities.Classic! Not quite as bad as when Atkinson was manager on a phone in and a woman was berating him for not selecting Coby Jones.
Went something along the lines of:
“why isn’t Coby playing”
“he’s not good enough”
It went on for a bit longer and Ron signed off by telling her to go and out the kettle on - there’s a good girl
Indeed. Think he has become a bit of a closet Cov fan as he’s been doing it for so long.
I like Kelly Cates as a presenter, helps that she was surrounded by football her entire life. I'm surprised she wasn't mentioned before this postI think on a general discussion point unfortunately the women who generally do the presenting and interviewing on Tv are actually not very good
Felt she was a tad card happy.The problem is a lot of women are introduced into 'mens former world' for the sake of PR now its not doing them or anyone any favours if they are not good enough in the first place regardless of gender Phil Neville got roasted Michael Owens a boring c**t but nobodys allowed to say any women are shite because of political correctness these days .. now as far as I am concerned if they are good they get my vote if they are not they get a thumbs down. I don't particularly like referees because the vast majority are crap but I have to say I thought the Russian woman ref against Andorra was excellent
Initially with Wendy Tomlinson it may have been PR but these days yes down to equalityFelt she was a tad card happy.
Is it really PR.
Thought it was more do with equality really.
Well that’s that then!Speedie said what a lot of people are thinking. I don't agree that women don't know what they're on about but their representation is a bit extreme these days. Even my partner says there is too many women on football programs now ... and she's a female
There's the first one.The problem is a lot of women are introduced into 'mens former world' for the sake of PR now its not doing them or anyone any favours if they are not good enough in the first place regardless of gender Phil Neville got roasted Michael Owens a boring c**t but nobodys allowed to say any women are shite because of political correctness these days .. now as far as I am concerned if they are good they get my vote if they are not they get a thumbs down. I don't particularly like referees because the vast majority are crap but I have to say I thought the Russian woman ref against Andorra was excellent
Speedie said what a lot of people are thinking. I don't agree that women don't know what they're on about but their representation is a bit extreme these days. Even my partner says there is too many women on football programs now ... and she's a female
Speedie said what a lot of people are thinking. I don't agree that women don't know what they're on about but their representation is a bit extreme these days. Even my partner says there is too many women on football programs now ... and she's a female
They flagged it up at the beginning, asked if he'd been drinking.Speedie quite clearly got an issue with drink.
Yeah tbf I get it in isolation, and sometimes I do find myself wondering if a female panellist is tokenistic. Then I remember it could be Robbie Savage, and it suddenly doesn't seem so bad!As for those who say some female commentators annoy them - I get that, me too. But many male commentators annoy me as well. For every Balding, Scott, Logan, Guha, Oakley, Hayes there's a Savage, Owen, Townsend, McManaman etc.
You might want to re-phrase that weemanWomen are equally as good at commentating as men. Some just need to get over their narrow minded views.
That’s just not an equivalent though is it?If he’d have said I don’t watch prem cos they mainly cheating cunts no one would ace batted an eyelid
That’s just not an equivalent though is it?
Fair comment Weeman , I always respect your views. And perhaps I am a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to football. I really should move with the times but feel there are too many women all at once getting the jobs because theyre women and not because they are talented speakers with anything interesting to say.Their representation is a bit extreme? The reason for this whole 'debate' is that their representation is anything but extreme - that's the point.
Womens football was banned up until the 50s I think - women are decades behind men in terms of training, opportunities and set up in football - and given that half of the worlds population is female, a lot is being done to address the balance. Why shouldn't females have the opportunity to commentate on the sport if they've got good pedigree?
Silly comment really Torquay.
As for those who say some female commentators annoy them - I get that, me too. But many male commentators annoy me as well. For every Balding, Scott, Logan, Guha, Oakley, Hayes there's a Savage, Owen, Townsend, McManaman etc.
Women are equally as good at commentating as men. Some just need to get over their narrow minded views.
PC gone madNo true my man
I personally don’t care who’s presenting I often watch games with commentary off it’s no big deal
Christ I think lee Hendrie is a decent pundit, I think Jamie mackie and Clinton Morrison are borderline retards,I think Merson has been nicking a living for years, I think bianca is brilliant most of the women presenting seem to know there stuff none of this is even worth talking about
cricket is a different story imo some off the female presenters on that are way out of their depth
it’s horse for courses, commentary in cricket is more important than in football
online forums and social media just causes trouble, debate/arguing with people you don’t know
what speedie said is his opinion, I don’t care what it is either way but I don’t care what it is I care that people have to challenge it
PC gone mad
Where do you draw the line? Racism you wouldn’t care about, after all it’s only an opinion and everyones allowed one and take issue with those challenging it.
Can you imagine the amount of flak a woman would get if she had the forthright and controversial opinions that Keane etc had? They'd be told to get "back to the kitchen", "Classic woman, no idea what they are talking about" etc. The privilege of being a bloke allows us to state strong and divisive opinions without our gender being used as a source of credibility.They are a boring nondescript bunch if I'm being honest.
Think this choice of language says it allI personally don’t care who’s presenting I often watch games with commentary off it’s no big deal
Christ I think lee Hendrie is a decent pundit, I think Jamie mackie and Clinton Morrison are borderline retards,I think Merson has been nicking a living for years, I think bianca is brilliant most of the women presenting seem to know there stuff none of this is even worth talking about
cricket is a different story imo some off the female presenters on that are way out of their depth
it’s horse for courses, commentary in cricket is more important than in football
online forums and social media just causes trouble, debate/arguing with people you don’t know
what speedie said is his opinion, I don’t care what it is either way but I don’t care what it is I care that people have to challenge it
But it’s just an opinionwasn’t talking about racism
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