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Match Thread Coventry City - West Bromwich Albion Match Thread - Monday 30th Oct (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Oct 26, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,086
Alkhen said:
I don't like the new style and it has been a letdown of a season but there is no way we are going down.

Zero chance
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A bold statement that. Do you accept we’re in a battle to stay up?
 

Greggs

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,087
should have stayed at home to watch it, fucking useless
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Looks offside?
 

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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OldBedrocker said:
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Despite being miles offside that is how you take a 1v1
 
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OldBedrocker

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,090
Briles said:
They've defended pretty well tbf
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We make it easy for them to defend when we play it square until they’ve got all 11 behind the ball
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,091
Fadz sounds like a broken man in this interview.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Nick said:
Looks offside?
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Certainly and pretty much killed the game off too
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,093
The Philosopher said:
I’d love to know what the deal was, but I do think it was some kind of debt swap.
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There were a lot of debts secured by charges over the club's assets which were paid off on 11th January when King took over. It's all recorded in the club's filing history at Companies House.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,094
OldBedrocker said:
We make it easy for them to defend when we play it square until they’ve got all 11 behind the ball
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They didn’t play well, just took the gift Wilson provided and the offside goal. Allowed us plenty of opportunities and got away with it as per
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,095
Emotions are high, everyone is pissed off. If Robins wasn’t Robins there would be more questions asked. But he is Robins and he’s earned that.

Talk of MR out and relegation is OTT at this point. No way we’re going down.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,096
Great_Expectations said:
Emotions are high, everyone is pissed off. If Robins wasn’t Robins there would be more questions asked. But he is Robins and he’s earned that.

Talk of MR out and relegation is OTT at this point. No way we’re going down.
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I mean we lost to Rotherham who are also shit so the alarm bells should be ringing
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,097
Nick said:
Looks offside?
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it was
 

matesx

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,098
Great_Expectations said:
Emotions are high, everyone is pissed off. If Robins wasn’t Robins there would be more questions asked. But he is Robins and he’s earned that.

Talk of MR out and relegation is OTT at this point. No way we’re going down.
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We have scored one goal in the last 4 games.... where do you see the goals coming from in this team?

Cos I can't see too many
 
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Alkhen

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,099
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I hate to agree with Matt Smith I really do - but the difference is we’re two points worse off than last season, when we didn’t have a ground…

We also don’t have a Gyokeres and Hamer to pull us through the shit. Most of the players Robins has signed are wank. Haji Wright cost 7.7 million and quite frankly I wouldn’t pay 750k he’s an absolute disaster of a signing
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It has been a bit of a shock at how badly we have adjusted this season but I'd say losing Vik and Hamer would derail most teams, that's the heart of the team gone. Was disastrous not being able to replace Gus. And pretty mental to try and totally change the system at the same time. That's on Robin's. Today was odd as 1st half we looked ok and more comfortable in using the box.

I dunno I just think it's mostly confidence and adjusting to the league that is holding them back. I'm positive we'll come good. Just looks way worse when you look at the fees we paid.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
A bold statement that. Do you accept we’re in a battle to stay up?
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Nah
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Alkhen said:
It has been a bit of a shock at how badly we have adjusted this season but I'd say losing Vik and Hamer would derail most teams, that's the heart of the team gone. Was disastrous not being able to replace Gus. And pretty mental to try and totally change the system at the same time. That's on Robin's. Today was odd as 1st half we looked ok and more comfortable in using the box.

I dunno I just think it's mostly confidence and adjusting to the league that is holding them back. I'm positive we'll come good. Just looks way worse when you look at the fees we paid.
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Middlesbrough lost Giles, Archer and Akpom… they seem to be getting better
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,102
Alkhen said:
Nah
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Another bold statement
 

Alkhen

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,103
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another bold statement
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Mid table easy. Could be better if we actually bring in a replacement for Gus
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,104
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another bold statement
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Sorry to interrupt another post-loss BSB meltdown, but as bad as we looked going forward, we absolutely didn’t look like relegation fodder tonight.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,105
SBT said:
Sorry to interrupt another post-loss BSB meltdown, but as bad as we looked going forward, we absolutely didn’t look like relegation fodder tonight.
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aye, we were awful going forward but we aren't relegation fodder
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,106
SBT said:
Sorry to interrupt another post-loss BSB meltdown, but as bad as we looked going forward, we absolutely didn’t look like relegation fodder tonight.
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I mean relegation fodder Rotherham created more clear cut chances against us than we did tonight… that’s an Alarm bell
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,107
SBT said:
Sorry to interrupt another post-loss BSB meltdown, but as bad as we looked going forward, we absolutely didn’t look like relegation fodder tonight.
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It isn’t a meltdown, not half and maybe you can direct your comments at those going a bit further. Robins and McF are presumably also in meltdowns based on their comments tonight.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,108
Matt smith said:
There’s so been so much change

robins needs to stick to an 11

least then we definitely know if these new players are shit
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Agree with this. Stick to the box. Simms up top though for me. Lati and Kitching as two of the three, not sure about Fadz at the mo though.

Tonight summed up the season for me. Not a bad performance, stinking first goal, miss a couple of sitters and a shocker from the officials. Just not getting the rub of the green as I’ve said before.

Ps text from baggies mate

‘We were lucky with a couple of decisions to be fair but we can be hard to break down and you missed a couple of great chances’
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It isn’t a meltdown, not half and maybe you can direct your comments at those going a bit further. Robins and McF are presumably also in meltdowns based on their comments tonight.
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Well I didn’t hear either of them declare we were in a potential relegation battle and it would be “bold” to suggest otherwise. Thankfully they know the difference between a crap performance and a crap bunch of players.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,110
Alkhen said:
Mid table easy. Could be better if we actually bring in a replacement for Gus
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Hovering above the relegation zone, even the ‘old guard’ seem to have had their belief drained. 4 in a row on Saturday.
 

Alkhen

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,111
Robins just stated the obvious that we need to take chances and is waiting for us to 'click'. I mean I'm not loving the style today but we are miles off being bottom 3.

Usual over reaction
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,112
Not sure i can keep telling myself "we will come good" for many more games. That was such a frustrating game, not getting the penalty, concede an awful goal and miss an absolute sitter. At least we've got a nice trip to Preston coming up, always get something there don't we
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,113
SBT said:
Well I didn’t hear either of them declare we were in a potential relegation battle and it would be “bold” to suggest otherwise. Thankfully they know the difference between a crap performance and a crap bunch of players.
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The manager has wanted to build a possession based game. We are getting the lion’s share of it every week and getting 0 points and 0 goals. The question now is if he is willing to admit that it’s not working.
 

Matt smith

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,114
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The manager has wanted to build a possession based game. We are getting the lion’s share of it every week and getting 0 points and 0 goals. The question now is if he is willing to admit that it’s not working.
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‘It’s a process’
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,115
Robins probably has made mistakes here but I'd much rather he figure that out how to get us going rather than someone fresh. He deserves that opportunity and if people were calling him the best thing since sliced bread and should have a statue etc but now doubting his ability to turn around a blip start after wholesale changes then blimey. We aren't getting Pep and £200m to spend just so you know if we sack Robins. Give him time. A season isn't even long in footy, never mind 12 games or whatever it is. I'm sure we've even had a run worse than this with Robins before but he always comes up with the goods.
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
The manager has wanted to build a possession based game. We are getting the lion’s share of it every week and getting 0 points and 0 goals. The question now is if he is willing to admit that it’s not working.
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Not sure if you heard his post match interview but it’s quite clear to everyone it’s not currently working. If he thought we were mired in a relegation battle after 13 games then it would make sense to change things asap but I’m not sure he agrees with you.
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 30, 2023
  • #1,117
stupot07 said:
Interesting stat. We have lost all the games we have had a significant higher amount of possession. The Rotherham commentary team mentioned it.

61% Wimbledon lost 2-1
64% Cardiff lost 3-2
66% Rotherham lost 2-0
68% Bristol lost 1-0
66% West Brom lost 2-0


Where as the 3 wins we had similar or less possession

49.5% Middlesbrough won 3-0
48% QPR won 3-1
34.5% Blackburn won 1-0

We aren't a possession team, we don't have the players for it. Even without Gus and Vik we are better on the counter, sucking teams out and then hitting them on the break[/b]
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This is a cracking stat tbf, clearly shows we’re not good as a possession-based team. We lack the mentality and ability to be able to move the ball around with fluidity meaning we never cause the opposition problems, we don’t try though balls, we don’t try 1-2’s, we don’t pull defenders out of positions, we don’t try either ambitious or non-ambitious shots when we have the opportunity, it is SO predictable it’s getting beyond a joke now.

The box worked much better than the old 2 up top formation, I hope we don’t just shelve that because we conceded an offside goal and our keeper made a howler.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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SBT said:
Not sure if you heard his post match interview but it’s quite clear to everyone it’s not currently working. If he thought we were mired in a relegation battle after 13 games then it would make sense to change things asap but I’m not sure he agrees with you.
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Lose again on Saturday and potentially be in 21st place just 3 points above the drop zone, I don’t think there’ll be much doubt. We can’t score even gilt edged sitters, keep giving away poor goals and the midfield remains lacking in dynamism. I mean I could be wrong and we go and beat PNE away for the first ever time in the league, but I imagine not.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Yep I think he’s trying to convince himself it’s a few tweaks or luck that’s required it’s not
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 30, 2023
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Do possession based teams work effectively at any level of football where player quality is of a similar level? Only works if your players are two or three levels above the opposition it appears.

Having a high possession is usually a result of your players being so much better than the opposition, altering your game to artificially increase your possession stats where the players on both teams are of a similar quality rarely seems to be successful.
 
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