Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Match Thread Coventry City vs. MK Dons Match Thread - Saturday 11th Jan (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Jan 6, 2020
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 15
  • 16
  • 17
  • 18
  • 19
  • …
  • 22
Next
First Prev 17 of 22 Next Last

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #561
SlowerThanPlatt said:
No because as I’ve pointed out at this stage of season there should be a clear difference between the top team and the 12th best team, in every other league there is, in our league there isn’t.

Our 41 points this season would have us 8th last and 13 points off top - I’m aware we have a different team but then if this team would have competed with the top teams last season shouldn’t they be top of this league by some distance?
Click to expand...
Don't necessarily think you can say there should be some arbitrary gap. Plenty of times the championship top half has been separated by only a few points. It is what it is. Nice to see a competitive league.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #562
SlowerThanPlatt said:
No it doesn’t? We finished 8th one season in L1 then got relegated the next?

And they sold Clarke to Brighton and Lowe to Wigan did they not?
Click to expand...

With a completely different team that finished 8th, pompey kept most their players and added some

So again, why is a team that finished on 88 points doing so much worse with much of the same squad
Because there is more competition?

Also You can't call the Premier league competitive when Liverpool have lost 1 league game in their last 59 matches

It's becoming the French league with PSG over the last few years
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #563
Evo1883 said:
I think there are more competitive sides in the league this season, hence why the points tally is less.

Feels a bit tougher this year in the top half
Click to expand...
I'd disagree. I would it's more competitive as there are no standout teams and a lack of quality across the board rather than more teams have improved and are more competitive.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #564
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Do you not think it shows there’s not much difference between the best side and the 12th best side - which wouldn’t be a sign of a good league as in every other league the top side are much further ahead of 12th position?
Click to expand...
100% this.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: DannyThomas_1981

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #565
stupot07 said:
I'd disagree. I would it's more competitive as there are no standout teams and a lack of quality across the board rather than more teams have improved and are more competitive.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...


A standout team doesn't equal a quality league though.

Take the Premier league, Liverpool have just won 20 from 21 games and there is a 17 point gap between them and City and a 16 point gap between them and Leicester.

Would you agree that Chelsea, arsenal, man United, Tottenham are all worse than they've been for a while and would you also agree that the competition is less for Liverpool?

They've lost 1 game in 59 in the league that doesn't scream a quality league, that streams PSG and farmers league

Would you also agree that this city side are better than last season, would you also agree that teams like Oxford Peterborough and Wycombe are better too... Rotherham have some solid championship players and so do Ipswich, Lincoln spent a decent amount, pompey still have a good squad and they spent 1.3 mill on marquis who is good at this level .. I'd say the competition is more hence why it's Alot closer
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #566
Evo1883 said:
With a completely different team that finished 8th, pompey kept most their players and added some

So again, why is a team that finished on 88 points doing so much worse with much of the same squad
Because there is more competition?
Click to expand...

They lost 2 players who were deemed Premier League and Championship quality - think they went for £3m each?

Also, they had 7 loans in throughout the season

Looking at their lineup against Sunderland in the play offs which I presume was their strongest to their win over Wimbledon today

GK: MacGillivray (now Bass)
RB: Thompson (now Bolton)
CB: Burgess
CB: Clarke (now Raggett)
LB: Walkes (now Seeddon)
CM: Naylor
CM: Close (now McGeehan)
RM: Lowe (now Harness)
LM: Curtis
CAM: Evans (now Cannon)
ST: Hawkins (now Harrison)

Only 3 remain
 
Reactions: ccfchoi87

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #567
Evo1883 said:
A standout team doesn't equal a quality league though.

Take the Premier league, Liverpool have just won 20 from 21 games and there is a 17 point gap between them and City and a 16 point gap between them and Leicester.

Would you disagree that Chelsea, arsenal, man United, Tottenham are all worse than they've been for a while and would you also agree that the competition is less for Liverpool?

They've lost 1 game in 59 in the league that doesn't scream a quality league, that streams PSG and farmers league
Click to expand...
We're talking about league one. There is not one great team in this league, we're all pretty average hence why anyone can beat anyone. Hence why the gap between 1st and 12th is so small.

This is the weakest league one theres been since we got relegated from the championship.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: ccfchoi87

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #568
stupot07 said:
100% this.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...


Using this logic, the French league over the last 7 seasons has been the best in the world
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #569
stupot07 said:
We're talking about league one. There is not one great team in this league, we're all pretty average hence why anyone can beat anyone. Hence why the gap between 1st and 12th is so small.

This is the weakest league one theres been since we got relegated from the championship.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...


That is absolutely incorrect
 
Reactions: Blind-Faith

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #570
Evo1883 said:
A standout team doesn't equal a quality league though.

Take the Premier league, Liverpool have just won 20 from 21 games and there is a 17 point gap between them and City and a 16 point gap between them and Leicester.

Would you agree that Chelsea, arsenal, man United, Tottenham are all worse than they've been for a while and would you also agree that the competition is less for Liverpool?

They've lost 1 game in 59 in the league that doesn't scream a quality league, that streams PSG and farmers league

Would you also agree that this city side are better than last season, would you also agree that teams like Oxford Peterborough and Wycombe are better too... Rotherham have some solid championship players and so do Ipswich, Lincoln spent a decent amount, pompey still have a good squad and they spent 1.3 mill on marquis who is good at this level .. I'd say the competition is more hence why it's Alot closer
Click to expand...
Your point regarding Liverpool is somewhat negated by the fact that they are European champions, super cup winners and world champions. That suggests, along with their over a year unbeaten in the league record, that they are pretty special in anybody's language. Pub league? You can only beat what is in front of you and we are doing okay, whatever happened in the past is irrelevant.
 
Reactions: stupot07

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #571
Evo1883 said:
That is absolutely incorrect
Click to expand...
You dont think this is the weakest league one since our relegation? Which season was a weaker group of teams?

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #572
riyadhskyblue said:
Your point regarding Liverpool is somewhat negated by the fact that they are European champions, super cup winners and world champions. That suggests, along with their over a year unbeaten in the league record, that they are pretty special in anybody's language. Pub league? You can only beat what is in front of you and we are doing okay, whatever happened in the past is irrelevant.
Click to expand...

Id normally agree except the last time liverpool won the champions league they didn't even win the Premier league(both times) so it doesn't automatically class them as the best in Europe
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #573
stupot07 said:
You dont think this is the weakest league one since our relegation? Which season was a weaker group of teams?

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...


14/15 overall a weaker league

This season at the bottom its weaker as we have pretty much written off Bolton and Bury are gone.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #574
Evo1883 said:
14/15 overall a weaker league
Click to expand...

How do you think the Bristol City team who got 99 points would fare this season?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #575
SlowerThanPlatt said:
How do you think the Bristol City team who got 99 points would fare this season?
Click to expand...

I think they would win it, I remember watching them and they were fantastic, playing a 3 back system too with wing backs
 
Reactions: ceetee

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #576
Evo1883 said:
Id normally agree except the last time liverpool won the champions league they didn't even win the Premier league(both times) so it doesn't automatically class them as the best in Europe
Click to expand...
Are you really arguing that 61 out of 63 points, unbeaten for over a year in the league, winners of 3 trophies is not anything special? You are a tough one to please.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #577
Anyway... I'm off to watch a movie.

Enjoy your evenings PUSB
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #578
riyadhskyblue said:
Are you really arguing that 61 out of 63 points, unbeaten for over a year in the league, winners of 3 trophies is not anything special? You are a tough one to please.
Click to expand...


That's not what I said at all... Last season Liverpool won the champions league but weren't even the best side in the Premier league.. So the argument is a tough one as how can you be the best in Europe if you haven't won your league?

Either way... They are the best in the prem this season by a long way..I also fancy them to maybe win the CL again
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #579
PS, I'm the one that's actually delighted with our season so far, I'm arguing for us being a better side in a more competitive league... So I'm not sure how you can say I'm tough to please
 
Reactions: ps1948, Irish Sky Blue, Londonccfcfan and 1 other person
R

Rodders1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #580
Such a disappointment today. Early goal seemed to set the tone of the game . Ie we’ll sit on it and MK will try and equalise.

We were so flat and devoid of ideas. Hopefully just a blip and the games do happen.

no one played well or badly really ... just a bit “meh”....
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #581
Evo1883 said:
PS, I'm the one that's actually delighted with our season so far, I'm arguing for us being a better side in a more competitive league... So I'm not sure how you can say I'm tough to please
Click to expand...
Cov fan logic. If we are doing well its because everyone else is shit, not that we may be a good side.
 
Reactions: Irish Sky Blue, Londonccfcfan, Covstu and 1 other person

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #582
Rodders1 said:
Such a disappointment today. Early goal seemed to set the tone of the game . Ie we’ll sit on it and MK will try and equalise.

We were so flat and devoid of ideas. Hopefully just a blip and the games do happen.

no one played well or badly really ... just a bit “meh”....
Click to expand...
Yep the goal changed the game for us and we sat very deep. Thought we looked better when o hare come on and had more creativity but Godden was non existent today and had zero service all day
 

CanadianCCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #583
theferret said:
This season is very open. After 24 games last season the top 2 were 9/10 points better off than we are now. In any other season we'd be way off the auto spots. You do feel that to make the top two we're going to have to go on a long winning run at some point, but the evidence so far suggests we don't have that in our locker unfortunately.
Click to expand...
Yeah but neither does anyone else
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #584
We’re safe from relegation, right?
 

Frank Sidebottom

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #585
Evo1883 said:
PS, I'm the one that's actually delighted with our season so far, I'm arguing for us being a better side in a more competitive league... So I'm not sure how you can say I'm tough to please
Click to expand...
I'm pretty happy, 24 games in, We've won 1 more game than last season and lost 7 less, Scored 10 more goals and conceded 3 less. We're the most difficult team in the league to beat. A little disappointed to have dropped 9 points from the bottom 5.... and that's what will probably cost us the Autos, But the playoffs are a more fun way to go up anyway.... and we always win those right?
 
Reactions: CanadianCCFC, shmmeee and skybluepm2

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #586
Nick said:
Robins saying players dead on their feet, why play them?
Click to expand...

Just watched the goal back. McCallum looks dead on his feet and is just jogging beside the player who gets the cross in - Robins had a third sub so why didn’t he use it?
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

Kindest Bloke on CCFC / Maker of CCFC Dreams
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #587

Watch to the end and catch Benno’s view
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #588
Mild-Mannered Janitor said:

Watch to the end and catch Benno’s view
Click to expand...
What does he say? All I can make out is shit and tell ya
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #589
Skybluefaz said:
Cov fan logic. If we are doing well its because everyone else is shit, not that we may be a good side.
Click to expand...
That's not what he said!
 
K

Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #590
SlowerThanPlatt said:
You think we’re as good as Luton last year?
Click to expand...
Easily if not better.
 
K

Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #591
Evo1883 said:
With a completely different team that finished 8th, pompey kept most their players and added some

So again, why is a team that finished on 88 points doing so much worse with much of the same squad
Because there is more competition?

Also You can't call the Premier league competitive when Liverpool have lost 1 league game in their last 59 matches

It's becoming the French league with PSG over the last few years
Click to expand...
Minus the spending.
 
K

Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #592
stupot07 said:
We're talking about league one. There is not one great team in this league, we're all pretty average hence why anyone can beat anyone. Hence why the gap between 1st and 12th is so small.

This is the weakest league one theres been since we got relegated from the championship.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Definitely weakest with a 20 million £ team and a 13 million £ team, get some facts the reason the league is so tight is that there is more competition and the stand out teams that should be flying have chocked.
This cov team is easily a team that will sit comfortably in playoffs and of we do somehow go up that would to me be over achieving bit thats not to say we didn't deserve to go up because we have played sone of the best football outside the prem this season better than some of the leeds/brentford and derby performances ive seen.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #593
Kieranp96 said:
Easily if not better.
Click to expand...
Absolute rubbish
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #594
Kieranp96 said:
Definitely weakest with a 20 million £ team and a 13 million £ team, get some facts the reason the league is so tight is that there is more competition and the stand out teams that should be flying have chocked.
This cov team is easily a team that will sit comfortably in playoffs and of we do somehow go up that would to me be over achieving bit thats not to say we didn't deserve to go up because we have played sone of the best football outside the prem this season better than some of the leeds/brentford and derby performances ive seen.
Click to expand...

Better than the sides who sit 1st and 3rd in the Championship...
 

Londonccfcfan

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 11, 2020
  • #595
Same old same old peeps with pointless Subjective boring bickering about competitiveness of the league. Lol
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 15
  • 16
  • 17
  • 18
  • 19
  • …
  • 22
Next
First Prev 17 of 22 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?