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chiefdave

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,831
shmmeee said:
Another point about let her rip type strategies: it’s not just about deaths, it’s about all that comes with deaths: overloaded admin services, bodies piling up unable to be buried, hospitals overrun and unable to cope with normal service. The politicial impact alone of mass graves or body piles in the U.K. would mean no government that has any self preservation instincts would allow that to happen.
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This never seems to be explained when people say just get on with it and open everything up. Even if you look at the numbers suggested in Steve's post (#32,717) thats huge numbers of sick and dead, and those numbers were based on restrictions being in place. Is there an acceptable deaths figure? What happens when the NHS becomes overwhelmed?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,832
shmmeee said:
Anyone heard anything about Halloween? Daughters favourite holiday and she was asking today if it’ll be “cancelled”. Genuinely didn’t know what to tell her.
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They're doing this by me, seems to be quite a lot of places doing something similar.

The Big Neighbourhood Pumpkin Trail -

Join in with the biggest pumpkin trail, display a pumpkin in your window and let's create a massive pumpkin trail for children to safely enjoy this Halloween. Free printable templates and Halloween colouring sheets.
www.artventurers.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,833
Ring Of Steel said:
I get it- haven’t seen family for almost a year, there’s job uncertainty everywhere, just heard there’s 64 cases at a school about 3 miles away, everyone Ian tense and stressed- then add in massive mismanagement & stupidly vague rules on what to do. It’s absolutely shit.

However that doesn’t mean I’m going to start believing half baked theories started by no-marks trying to pretend it’s not very real, just so I can feel better about things by kidding myself that I’m one step ahead and I know what they’re up to with their “narratives”
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It's because a virus that doesn't even cause symptoms in around half the people who get it has made it so you can be fined 3 grand for going to someone's house. Take away the good things and leave all the shit in place for ages and people will start to lose their shit
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,834
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's because a virus that doesn't even cause symptoms in around half the people who get it has made it so you can be fined 3 grand for going to someone's house. Take away the good things and leave all the shit in place for ages and people will start to lose their shit
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So fuck the other half then. No doubt it’s shit, but unfortunately that doesn’t mean it isn’t real and all a wicked plan to mess up people’s lives.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,835
Ring Of Steel said:
So fuck the other half then. No doubt it’s shit, but unfortunately that doesn’t mean it isn’t real and all a wicked plan to mess up people’s lives.
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Vallance's estimates had us at a 0.4% death rate. About half don't get symptoms, another 30% will get mild symptoms. People under 20 will hardly ever fall ill from it but I have to teach in a box and refrain from even handing them a sheet. Where's the justification in that BS?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,836
Some good news. Although this sounds a bit like the moonshot test, Johnson will be annoyed if someone has already developed it and he can't chuck a load of money to his mates.

Coronavirus: New global test will give results 'in minutes'

The WHO says the low-cost test will be available to millions in low- and middle-income countries.
www.bbc.co.uk
A test that can accurately diagnose coronavirus in minutes will dramatically expand testing in low and middle-income countries, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said.

The $5 (£3.80) test could transform tracking of Covid-19 in less wealthy countries, which have shortages of healthcare workers and laboratories.
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,837
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm a pessimist anyway SB, this has sent it into overdrive. Another 6 months of this is too much
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Keep your chin up mate, hopefully things will improve quicker than hoped.

I really don’t know why six months was mentioned (it’s daunting for most). Really should’ve just said monthly review and if they can release restrictions, they will do so (even temporarily) to encourage people to do the right thing.

I agree with those that say hospital admissions, deaths etc will continue to rise for a period (of course they will), however, hopefully nowhere near the rate of the first wave. There’s new info being released all the time which may help them to tweak policy - like the higher viral load infections reducing over time (assuming due to masks, distancing etc) thereby more ‘less serious’ cases.

fingers crossed better news on the way (we can but hope !)

ps just to clarify, thats not to say that nhs capacity still doesn’t need to be managed during the coming months but if lockdowns/restrictions are being implemented there needs to be proper consideration as to when, where, who for and for how long.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,838
CCFCSteve said:
Keep your chin up mate, hopefully things will improve quicker than hoped.

I really don’t know why six months was mentioned (it’s daunting for most). Really should’ve just said monthly review and if they can release restrictions, they will do so (even temporarily) to encourage people to do the right thing.

I agree with those that say hospital admissions, deaths etc will continue to rise for a period (of course they will), however, hopefully nowhere near the rate of the first wave. There’s new info being released all the time which may help them to tweak policy - like the higher viral load infections reducing over time (assuming due to masks, distancing etc) thereby more ‘less serious’ cases.

fingers crossed better news on the way (we can but hope !)

ps just to clarify, thats not to say that nhs capacity still doesn’t need to be managed during the coming months but if lockdowns/restrictions are being implemented there needs to be proper consideration as to when, where, who for and for how long.
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The last 6+ months have already done enough damage to me Steve and as I keep saying it's because of a virus that seems to have record % of people not even getting symptoms. Yet we're allowing it to ruin every aspect of society, people's livelihoods, their mental health and so on. I just need some light at the end of the tunnel and I don't see it
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,839
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Vallance's estimates had us at a 0.4% death rate. About half don't get symptoms, another 30% will get mild symptoms. People under 20 will hardly ever fall ill from it but I have to teach in a box and refrain from even handing them a sheet. Where's the justification in that BS?
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On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,840
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Vallance's estimates had us at a 0.4% death rate. About half don't get symptoms, another 30% will get mild symptoms. People under 20 will hardly ever fall ill from it but I have to teach in a box and refrain from even handing them a sheet. Where's the justification in that BS?
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Cool let us let people die because some cunts are having a paddy about having having to not have a whale of a time.

Fuck them
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,841
David O'Day said:
Cool let us let people die because some cunts are having a paddy about having having to not have a whale of a time.

Fuck them
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Is your real name Karen by any chance?
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,842
clint van damme said:
On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.
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I think that’s the only way to look at it
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,843
David O'Day said:
Cool let us let people die because some cunts are having a paddy about having having to not have a whale of a time.

Fuck them
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It has probably made me depressed DOD but that's fine dismiss it as trivial
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,844
clint van damme said:
On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.
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As above I just need some light at the end of the tunnel. I am normally fine handling short term setbacks but if the long term seems bleak I can't really shake it.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,845
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s making me miserable just thinking about yet more things I can’t do while I’m being asked to do my job in the most farcical circumstances. There’s nothing to look forward to for months on end
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Its horrible mate, there's literally nothing to look forward to. I'm still furloughed, no idea if I'll have a job once we get past October so sit here worrying about how I'm going to pay the mortgage and bills.

Haven't seen anyone apart from my Mum and Dad in months. My Dads 86 and I can see him deteriorating by the week as he's just sat in the house doing nothing. At this rate I'd be surprised if he makes it through another 6 months of this.

But what's the alternative? Even the 0.4% you quote would equate to over 250K deaths, do we just accept that and open everything up? Of course that figure assumes the NHS not being overwhelmed, with the rate this spreads out they'd soon run out of capacity and the death rate would spiral.

Not to mention we don't know how much long term damage is done to those who 'recover' and there's also some research to suggest that those who are asymptomatic are seeing damage to their heart and lungs that will cause future issues. There's no easy answer to this. We're really just all trying to get through it until either treatment massively improves or a vaccine is ready.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,846
shmmeee said:
Anyone heard anything about Halloween? Daughters favourite holiday and she was asking today if it’ll be “cancelled”. Genuinely didn’t know what to tell her.
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As long as you prep her for trick or treating like so, it should be fine.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,847
chiefdave said:
Its horrible mate, there's literally nothing to look forward to. I'm still furloughed, no idea if I'll have a job once we get past October so sit here worrying about how I'm going to pay the mortgage and bills.

Haven't seen anyone apart from my Mum and Dad in months. My Dads 86 and I can see him deteriorating by the week as he's just sat in the house doing nothing. At this rate I'd be surprised if he makes it through another 6 months of this.

But what's the alternative? Even the 0.4% you quote would equate to over 250K deaths, do we just accept that and open everything up? Of course that figure assumes the NHS not being overwhelmed, with the rate this spreads out they'd soon run out of capacity and the death rate would spiral.

Not to mention we don't know how much long term damage is done to those who 'recover' and there's also some research to suggest that those who are asymptomatic are seeing damage to their heart and lungs that will cause future issues. There's no easy answer to this. We're really just all trying to get through it until either treatment massively improves or a vaccine is ready.
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Yeah I remember you talking about that a number of times. I just want something to look forward to
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,848
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah I remember you talking about that a number of times. I just want something to look forward to
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What you have to do, is little things.

The walk in the park, the bottle of beer cooling in the fridge, the film you've chosen to watch at the weekend. Me and my Dad occasionally pick some craft beer and drink it on Skype. Mrs Wisdom has just made some excellent flapjacks and that may be a small thing, but it's a fine treat. There's a hamper of goodies being delivered this week, ordered by me... for me

Then, start planning your Christmas, maybe. Might not be how you'd have wanted to spend it, but what food would you like, who's cooking.

There are always things to look forward to, but you'll have to find them in different places.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,849
clint van damme said:
On top of me losing my job later in the year (not covid related), it looks as though the missus will have to knock her business on the head (because of covid).
But while you've got breathe in your body you can move on. We know people who haven't come back from it or are still suffering months later.

It is shit but getting through it with you and your loved ones in one piece is the main thing. That's how I look at it.
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Yeah it’s shite, I just want to see my mum and dad, the prospect of not seeing them until next Spring or Summer is dreadful
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,850
Deleted member 5849 said:
What you have to do, is little things.

The walk in the park, the bottle of beer cooling in the fridge, the film you've chosen to watch at the weekend. Me and my Dad occasionally pick some craft beer and drink it on Skype. Mrs Wisdom has just made some excellent flapjacks and that may be a small thing, but it's a fine treat. There's a hamper of goodies being delivered this week, ordered by me... for me

Then, start planning your Christmas, maybe. Might not be how you'd have wanted to spend it, but what food would you like, who's cooking.

There are always things to look forward to, but you'll have to find them in different places.
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Great advice, made a steak and Guinness pie yesterday...got an extra 7 cans of Guinness to ‘complement’ the pie as well - lovely
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,851
Deleted member 5849 said:
What you have to do, is little things.

The walk in the park, the bottle of beer cooling in the fridge, the film you've chosen to watch at the weekend. Me and my Dad occasionally pick some craft beer and drink it on Skype. Mrs Wisdom has just made some excellent flapjacks and that may be a small thing, but it's a fine treat. There's a hamper of goodies being delivered this week, ordered by me... for me

Then, start planning your Christmas, maybe. Might not be how you'd have wanted to spend it, but what food would you like, who's cooking.

There are always things to look forward to, but you'll have to find them in different places.
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The less said about Mrs BSB's cooking the better
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,852
This too shall pass guys.

It’s shit and it’s doubly shit cos everyone’s going through it at once. But we’ll come out the other side.
TomRad85 said:
As long as you prep her for trick or treating like so, it should be fine.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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“We’re all dressing as Minions this year kids!”
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,853
shmmeee said:
Anyone heard anything about Halloween? Daughters favourite holiday and she was asking today if it’ll be “cancelled”. Genuinely didn’t know what to tell her.
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Suits me, I hate it
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,854
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Make sure it is a 2 metre distance from the trimmings
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The pigs and their blankets have been deconstructed
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,855
fernandopartridge said:
Suits me, I hate it
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Im gonna go out on a limb and say you’re not a ten year old girl with a sweet tooth and a love of the gothic.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,856
CCFCSteve said:
Keep your chin up mate, hopefully things will improve quicker than hoped.

I really don’t know why six months was mentioned (it’s daunting for most). Really should’ve just said monthly review and if they can release restrictions, they will do so (even temporarily) to encourage people to do the right thing.

I agree with those that say hospital admissions, deaths etc will continue to rise for a period (of course they will), however, hopefully nowhere near the rate of the first wave. There’s new info being released all the time which may help them to tweak policy - like the higher viral load infections reducing over time (assuming due to masks, distancing etc) thereby more ‘less serious’ cases.

fingers crossed better news on the way (we can but hope !)

ps just to clarify, thats not to say that nhs capacity still doesn’t need to be managed during the coming months but if lockdowns/restrictions are being implemented there needs to be proper consideration as to when, where, who for and for how long.
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Part of me thinks the 6 month thing is a nudge rather than genuine, I certainly hope so anyway
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,857
fernandopartridge said:
The pigs and their blankets have been deconstructed
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It’s the only roast dinner I like but as it’s turkey nobody else does
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,858
fernandopartridge said:
Part of me thinks the 6 month thing is a nudge rather than genuine, I certainly hope so anyway
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Isn’t the law they’re signing a 6 month extension?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,859
shmmeee said:
Im gonna go out on a limb and say you’re not a ten year old girl with a sweet tooth and a love of the gothic.
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I'm 11
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,860
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah I remember you talking about that a number of times. I just want something to look forward to
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I watched Elf this evening. Cheered me up a bit until I realised I sacked off the pile of mocks I needed to mark.

Gonna watch Gremlins tomorrow - fuck the mocks it’s all gonna be CAG anyway.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,861
Ian1779 said:
I watched Elf this evening. Cheered me up a bit until I realised I sacked off the pile of mocks I needed to mark.

Gonna watch Gremlins tomorrow - fuck the mocks it’s all gonna be CAG anyway.
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In my humble opinion Gremlins is the greatest festive movie of all time, followed by Planes, Trains & Automobiles and National Lampoons
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,862
Hmm. And to think I was looking forward to watching Get Carter...
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,863
Sick Boy said:
Yeah it’s shite, I just want to see my mum and dad, the prospect of not seeing them until next Spring or Summer is dreadful
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What’s stopping you seeing them? I’ve just remembered you’re in Italy. Sorry
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,864
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmm. And to think I was looking forward to watching Get Carter...
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One thing I’ve noticed is that whenever I watch something and there is a gathering of any kind in a bar or something, I instinctively find myself thinking “they’re taking a chance”- this thing takes over your thoughts completely

The Office (USA version) is my go to escapism programme, and the Channel 4 programme that was on Channel 4 in about 2001
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 28, 2020
  • #32,865
Ian1779 said:
I watched Elf this evening. Cheered me up a bit until I realised I sacked off the pile of mocks I needed to mark.

Gonna watch Gremlins tomorrow - fuck the mocks it’s all gonna be CAG anyway.
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We don't do mocks till after Christmas. Spend most of my time trying to re-plan entirely practical lessons for use in random rooms, that and doss about on here of course.
 
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