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tisza

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,266
Deleted member 5849 said:
As I said, there's certainly an argument to be made... but the 'art' as it were, is to get moving towards a consensus, surely?

The consensus on this pandemic is that the government needs to improve its messaging, and develop a strategy. If it does that it has a positive knock on effect for other things. If not, we need to be united that it's not good enough and that we as a people deserve better.
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It's not about an ability to deliver messages all the time. In this specific case it's about delivering definite, enforced rules, not advisable guidelines. Advisable guidelines don't work - eg pictures of the beaches etc. last few weeks, unclear fining systems and so on.
Nearly every other country (regardless of political persuasion of govts) produced clear rules/procedures with clear consequences if they weren't followed.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,267
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think things got a bit tasty
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At a McDonalds? Are you sure?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,268
Rolls-Royce announces hundreds of job cuts in Ansty and Solihull

He's a complete nob but I hope Coventrian gets through alright.

Grenners told me this would never happen though

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,269
Skybluefaz said:
I don't think he did. From what I read he began to feel unwell at work
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But when he did feel unwell he should have gone home - not gone to the chamber.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,270
Boris Johnson facing backlash after scrapping pledge to keep chlorinated chicken out of British supermarkets
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,271
David O'Day said:
Rolls-Royce announces hundreds of job cuts in Ansty and Solihull

He's a complete nob but I hope Coventrian gets through alright.

Grenners told me this would never happen though

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Bound to come unfortunately.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,272
David O'Day said:
Rolls-Royce announces hundreds of job cuts in Ansty and Solihull

He's a complete nob but I hope Coventrian gets through alright.

Grenners told me this would never happen though

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I thought he worked for Land Rover
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,273
This is positive, albeit an estimate:

ONS: Fewer than one in 1000 people in England have Covid-19
The number of people with Covid-19 in England has fallen to around 5,600 new infections a day from around 8,000 reported last week, according to figures from the Office for National Statistics.

The ONS published data on how many people at any one time are infected with Covid-19 based on swab results from households across the country.
It said:

Modelling of the trend over time shows evidence that the number of people in England testing positive has decreased in recent weeks.

There were an estimated 39,000 new Covid-19 infections per week in England between April 26 and May 30, equating to an incidence rate per week of 0.07 new cases per 100 people.

This means fewer than one in every 1,000 people had Covid-19.
Just over a week ago, on May 28, the ONS estimated there were around 54,000 new coronavirus infections per week in England, or around 8,000 a day.

This suggests a drop of around a third between the two datasets.
The estimates are based on swab tests of 19,000 people in 9,000 households
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,274
fernandopartridge said:
I thought he worked for Land Rover
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Sorry my bad

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,275
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Boris Johnson facing backlash after scrapping pledge to keep chlorinated chicken out of British supermarkets
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Boris Johnson? Not keeping his word? Who could have seen that coming?
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,276
skybluetony176 said:
Boris Johnson? Not keeping his word? Who could have seen that coming?
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If anyone can seriously & genuinely say they are surprised by this then they are just stupid and naive.

Just wait until the NHS gets chopped to pieces & the pharma companies get stuck in making their interests & demands clear (which we will immediately cave into), chlorinated chickens will be forgotten in an instant.

Its all panning out exactly as everyone with half a brain knew it would.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,277
skybluetony176 said:
Boris Johnson? Not keeping his word? Who could have seen that coming?
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Don't go being sneering and condescending now
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,278
Can’t wait for positivity to carry us through the Brexit deal
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,279
Sky Blue Pete said:
Can’t wait for positivity to carry us through the Brexit deal
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Stiff upper lip, blitz spirit, keep calm and carry on

etc etc
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,280
The disaster capitalists pushing the no deal brexit cannot believe their luck with COVID as well, it's like your football coupon coming in and then winning the lottery for them.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,281
wingy said:
There was a question posed to Sadiq Kahn ( I think) this morning .
How would it have panned out under Jeremy Corbyn ?
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No prizes for guessing what I think.

Labour generally had a better plan for healthcare and social care.. would they have been able to put any in place - probably unlikely.

At least they would care more - put health over money, not the other way round.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,282
David O'Day said:
Rolls-Royce announces hundreds of job cuts in Ansty and Solihull

He's a complete nob but I hope Coventrian gets through alright.

Grenners told me this would never happen though

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Oh bless you david
David O'Day said:
Rolls-Royce announces hundreds of job cuts in Ansty and Solihull

He's a complete nob but I hope Coventrian gets through alright.

Grenners told me this would never happen though

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Oh bless you david. See you can be nice. You know we'd probably actually get on in real life.

I work at LR solihull. No redundancies yet but I think there will be in the future due to the impact of this. It would know doubt be done on service so id be ok with the length of time I've done.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,283
Ring Of Steel said:
If anyone can seriously & genuinely say they are surprised by this then they are just stupid and naive.

Just wait until the NHS gets chopped to pieces & the pharma companies get stuck in making their interests & demands clear (which we will immediately cave into), chlorinated chickens will be forgotten in an instant.

Its all panning out exactly as everyone with half a brain knew it would.
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You only have to read Britannia Unchained to see what members of the cabinet think of the ‘lazy British worker’. Workers’ rights will be the next to be slashed under the guise of everyone doing their part to help Britain recover and become great again etc.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,284
The coventrian said:
Oh bless you david

Oh bless you david. See you can be nice. You know we'd probably actually get on in real life.

I work at LR solihull. No redundancies yet but I think there will be in the future due to the impact of this. It would know doubt be done on service so id be ok with the length of time I've done.
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Unfortunately it’s a risk for most people across the continent, also employers taking advantage of workers’ fears around losing their job.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,285
Sick Boy said:
You only have to read Britannia Unchained to see what members of the cabinet think of the ‘lazy British worker’. Workers’ rights will be the next to be slashed under the guise of everyone doing their part to help Britain recover and become great again etc.
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Oh yeah- there will be plenty of calls for the Bulldog Spirit soon enough, to teach those Europeans a thing or two- they'll have been blamed for everything as we hurtle towards no deal- which was actually the plan all along.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,286

A concern
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,287
Skybluefaz said:

A concern
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I'd call it an inevitability
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,288
Garraway on husband's battle with 'evil virus'

Don’t worry just the flu though
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,289
fernandopartridge said:
I'd call it an inevitability
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You can also call it that
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,290
This is an interesting read, probably indicates where the country is now. As I said last week I think 200k + excess deaths might occur because of this:

What Is the Government’s Coronavirus Strategy? - 99%
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,291
fernandopartridge said:
This is an interesting read, probably indicates where the country is now. As I said last week I think 200k + excess deaths might occur because of this:

What Is the Government’s Coronavirus Strategy? - 99%
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So in government speak we should all be very proud, as they exactly forecast the number of deaths at 20,000. After all, its only missing a '0' and 0 is nothing.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,292
1650 positive
357 deaths

The death rate is very stubborn indeed, is this just the slaughter of care homes still ongoing?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,293
Ring Of Steel said:
So in government speak we should all be very proud, as they exactly forecast the number of deaths at 20,000. After all, its only missing a '0' and 0 is nothing.
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It's less than half of 500k so a job jolly well done chaps.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,294
Sky Blue Pete said:
Garraway on husband's battle with 'evil virus'

Don’t worry just the flu though
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All the while Shapps says mask must be worn because 'might as well'
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,295
fernandopartridge said:
1650 positive
357 deaths

The death rate is very stubborn indeed, is this just the slaughter of care homes still ongoing?
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R rate up as well and people tested still strangely unavailable

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PVA

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,296
This is a joke, right?

Being knighted for ignoring your own rules.

 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,297
PVA said:
This is a joke, right?

Being knighted for ignoring your own rules.

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Likely wum

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,298
David O'Day said:
Likely wum

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Nope, thats being reported all over now, seems to be legit

Thats so bad I don't even feel annoyed, its funny
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,299
Ring Of Steel said:
Nope, thats being reported all over now, seems to be legit

Thats so bad I don't even feel annoyed, its funny
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All I am seeing is twitter accounts posting the same unsoured story. Looks like they are just repeating each other.

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David O'Day

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  • Jun 5, 2020
  • #27,300

Seems to.be above 1 in the north west

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