Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (39 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

It is strange as this would be meat and drink to a confident opposition - it’s normally the stuff of dreams

Unless he's got something up his sleeve for PMQs next week.
I would have thought he'd have been a bit more forthright on this though.

 

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[NorthernWisdom]

as a sane and rational Cummings

I'm sensing a flaw in your statement...

 

[Grendel]

I'm sensing a flaw in your statement...

the desire to purge the bloated civil service is not a bad mission - unfortunately Mr Cummings is someone who needs to learn you need allies at times of strife not enough enemies to fill a planet

 

[Ian1779]

Of course you’ve always been staggeringly impartial - Mr Starmer seems rather muted on the resignation issue

Apart from when he said he’d have sacked Cummings about 2 hours ago.

 

[David O'Day]

Apart from when he said he’d have sacked Cummings about 2 hours ago.

Yeah he's actually been quite forthright and it's been on the news

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[Ian1779]

Ian has had a drink and quoting 40 years exonerates the Callaghan disaster which is both telling and disturbing in equal measure

Make it 45 years if you like. Point remains.

 

[Ian1779]

Yeah he's actually been quite forthright and it's been on the news

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[David O'Day]

Tory whips apologise for urging MPs to support Dominic Cummings

Thinks getting even worse within the Tory party

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[BackRoomRummermill]

There is a massive public trust issue with the way this is all going , the only one who comes out well is Sturgeon , fair play to her at least she can bullshite convincingly if she has too , she makes all the rest look like kids, she has killed labour and Tory in Scotland , independence now a certainty lots of Tory voters piled over to her rather than Labour. Trust issues

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

Tory whips apologise for urging MPs to support Dominic Cummings

Thinks getting even worse within the Tory party

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they have lost trust

 

[David O'Day]

The Church Of England are on to him as well

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[clint van damme]

There is a massive public trust issue with the way this is all going , the only one who comes out well is Sturgeon , fair play to her at least she can bullshite convincingly if she has too , she makes all the rest look like kids, she has killed labour and Tory in Scotland , independence now a certainty lots of Tory voters piled over to her rather than Labour. Trust issues

To be fair to her she was in a similar position with Caldewood and acted decisively and also allowed Calderwood to maintain some dignity by letting her resign.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Surely Boris could see he’s implying everyone else doesn’t care about their kids

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Yeah he's actually been quite forthright and it's been on the news

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facts don’t matter when you’re on a massive deflection campaign

 

[Grendel]

facts don’t matter when you’re on a massive deflection campaign

at last an acknowledgment of your own personal agenda

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Surely Boris could see he’s implying everyone else doesn’t care about their kids

he’s judging them by his own standards then- he’s a shit parent as well as a deeply flawed human being and comically inept failure in every job he’s had.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air

 

[Grendel]

he’s judging them by his own standards then- he’s a shit parent as well as a deeply flawed human being
and comically inept failure in every job he’s had.

How rational. What a wonderfully thoughtful contribution to the debate

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air

Brilliant and the best bit you can say what you like as you have no expert opinion and if it doesn’t work out how you think you take no responsibility for it

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air

kind of looks more likely that this is the second wave, bearing in mind we know it was in Europe in November last year

 

[David O'Day]

Best bit about the childcare defence is he didn't actually get any child care

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[chiefdave]

Unless he's got something up his sleeve for PMQs next week.

He'll probably miss that one. TOIL for having to work on a Sunday!

 

[clint van damme]

Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air

He's worth a listen but don't take everything he says as gospel, he's an oncologist at the end of the day.

 

[chiefdave]

Best bit about the childcare defence is he didn't actually get any child care

Its mental if you actually pick through the corner they've backed themselves into. That has Cummings going all the way to Durham to get some groceries delivered!

 

[David O'Day]

The governments nudge advisors aren't happy

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[clint van damme]

Best bit about the childcare defence is he didn't actually get any child care

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as if Johnson would know about taking responsibility for your kids.

 

[chiefdave]

Tbh lads it doesnt matter lockdowns ending. As covered, this virus is dying out naturally. Granted if we went back to fully normal you would see a spike but none of this second wave stuff the facebook experts seem to state.

Does anyone here follow Professor Sikora? Blokes a breath of fresh air

Hope that turns out to be the case. I certainly won't be rushing to the pub or anywhere else with loads of people.

Some experts have long been predicting that the second wave won't come until winter so it could be a while before we can actually declare this all over and done with.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Its mental if you actually pick through the corner they've backed themselves into. That has Cummings going all the way to Durham to get some groceries delivered!

thing is, this is no bigger of a lie than some of the other stuff they got up to- Russia reports, Acuri etc, as well as Boris being completely AWOL most of the time and telling porkies every time he opens his mouth- can only assume that this was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and enough is enough with the lies & bullshit, people have finally had enough of being treated like fools.

 

[clint van damme]

thing is, this is no bigger of a lie than some of the other stuff they got up to- Russia reports, Acuri etc, as well as Boris being completely AWOL most of the time and telling porkies every time he opens his mouth- can only assume that this was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and enough is enough with the lies & bullshit, people have finally had enough of being treated like fools.

which is why Starmer calling for an enquiry pisses me off.
We already have more suppressed reports, white washes and ineffectual enquire than you can shake a stick at. Waste of fucking time.

 

[chiefdave]

thing is, this is no bigger of a lie than some of the other stuff they got up to- Russia reports, Acuri etc, as well as Boris being completely AWOL most of the time and telling porkies every time he opens his mouth- can only assume that this was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and enough is enough with the lies & bullshit, people have finally had enough of being treated like fools.

Looking at what some Conservative MPs are saying about the response from their constituents think the issue is that so many people have been hugely impacted personally by this and feel like the government is sticking two fingers up at them.

 

[David O'Day]

which is why Starmer calling for an enquiry pisses me off.
We already have more suppressed reports, white washes and ineffectual enquire than you can shake a stick at. Waste of fucking time.

He's said he should be fired. He said it live on sky news

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[Ring Of Steel]

Looking at what some Conservative MPs are saying about the response from their constituents think the issue is that so many people have been hugely impacted personally by this and feel like the government is sticking two fingers up at them.

They have been for a long time, driven by the guy who is now responsible for highlighting the fact to them, there is a certain irony in that- Cummings thought he was utterly untouchable and that might be the case, but he’s clearly shown people the contempt he holds them in.

 

[clint van damme]

Looking at what some Conservative MPs are saying about the response from their constituents think the issue is that so many people have been hugely impacted personally by this and feel like the government is sticking two fingers up at them.

I said this earlier in the thread. A lot of things we debate on here don't actually affect many of us, at least not to a great degree.
This has massively impacted all of us.

 

[David O'Day]

The nudge unit seems to be in open revolt

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[clint van damme]

He's said he should be fired. He said it live on sky news

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The jury is out on Starmer for me personally. As I've said before, not as good as his fan boys make out and nowhere near as bad as his haters make out either.