hill83
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What does she know, she’s not on the ground floor directly at the coalface in Wetherspoons at 10am m8
Had a visit to the hospital yesterday to see a senior respiratory consultant after over 2 years of waiting. Asked about covid and if particular if I was wrong to be feeling anixious when everyone else seems to be acting like nothing ever happened. To be honest I was hoping for a 'if you're double jabbed there's little to worry about' type answer for re-assurance but I got nothing like that. Wasn't sure if I should post what she said but figured I might as well in case anyone is interested in an experts opinion.
Basically she said this is a long way from being over and people are too comfortable & complacent. Said it was best to look at hospitalisations & deaths rather than cases and both those figures are significantly higher than they were heading into last winter and rising.
Said the 'in the wild' data indicates that vaccination does lower the chance of getting covid and the risk of passing it on if you do have it but people have focused on a single study which shows that in lab conditions, where nose swabs were taken, there could be the same viral load in the vaccinated and unvaccinated but even that showed that in the vaccinated the viral load dropped far quicker than in the unvaccinated.
Also said she hoped that vaccine passports and masks would be introduced, this was before the government announced the winter plan, to minimise hospitalisations without the need for another lockdown.
Finally said people are using terms like 'overwhelm the NHS' without understanding what they are talking about as they say levels aren't as high as last year and therefore the NHS can cope but that required shutting down everything that wasn't critical care to concentrate on covid. The levels of covid hospitalisations the NHS can cope with before other services are impacted is far lower and they're already, at least locally, very close to that level.
As I was leaving I asked specifically about attending matches. She said personally she wouldn't even consider going to an event with a large crowd of unmasked, and potentially unvaccinated, people.
Not exactly the reassurance I was looking for. On the bright side no cancer, no additional respiratory issues on top of what I already knew about, no issues with immune system, so onto another waiting list (12 months or longer thanks to the backlog) for another department and more tests.
Really encouraging figures for those who are at least 3 weeks post 2nd jab. Out of 51,281 covid deaths this year, up to July 2, only 458 were people who had received 2 doses at least 21 days previously. And of them only 59 were not in the CEV category, that's just 0.1% of deaths.Interesting thread on vaccine waning
Had a visit to the hospital yesterday to see a senior respiratory consultant after over 2 years of waiting. Asked about covid and if particular if I was wrong to be feeling anixious when everyone else seems to be acting like nothing ever happened. To be honest I was hoping for a 'if you're double jabbed there's little to worry about' type answer for re-assurance but I got nothing like that. Wasn't sure if I should post what she said but figured I might as well in case anyone is interested in an experts opinion.
Basically she said this is a long way from being over and people are too comfortable & complacent. Said it was best to look at hospitalisations & deaths rather than cases and both those figures are significantly higher than they were heading into last winter and rising.
Said the 'in the wild' data indicates that vaccination does lower the chance of getting covid and the risk of passing it on if you do have it but people have focused on a single study which shows that in lab conditions, where nose swabs were taken, there could be the same viral load in the vaccinated and unvaccinated but even that showed that in the vaccinated the viral load dropped far quicker than in the unvaccinated.
Also said she hoped that vaccine passports and masks would be introduced, this was before the government announced the winter plan, to minimise hospitalisations without the need for another lockdown.
Finally said people are using terms like 'overwhelm the NHS' without understanding what they are talking about as they say levels aren't as high as last year and therefore the NHS can cope but that required shutting down everything that wasn't critical care to concentrate on covid. The levels of covid hospitalisations the NHS can cope with before other services are impacted is far lower and they're already, at least locally, very close to that level.
As I was leaving I asked specifically about attending matches. She said personally she wouldn't even consider going to an event with a large crowd of unmasked, and potentially unvaccinated, people.
Not exactly the reassurance I was looking for. On the bright side no cancer, no additional respiratory issues on top of what I already knew about, no issues with immune system, so onto another waiting list (12 months or longer thanks to the backlog) for another department and more tests.
It’s the very definition of false equivalence. It’s like comparing a paper cut to limb amputation.
Not really, they are both viruses that can kill tens of thousands a year even with a vaccination programme. Plus for younger people they’re about equally as high in mortality
BUT NICKI MINAJS COUSINS FRIENDS BOLLOCKS HAVE EXPLODEDHad a visit to the hospital yesterday to see a senior respiratory consultant after over 2 years of waiting. Asked about covid and if particular if I was wrong to be feeling anixious when everyone else seems to be acting like nothing ever happened. To be honest I was hoping for a 'if you're double jabbed there's little to worry about' type answer for re-assurance but I got nothing like that. Wasn't sure if I should post what she said but figured I might as well in case anyone is interested in an experts opinion.
Basically she said this is a long way from being over and people are too comfortable & complacent. Said it was best to look at hospitalisations & deaths rather than cases and both those figures are significantly higher than they were heading into last winter and rising.
Said the 'in the wild' data indicates that vaccination does lower the chance of getting covid and the risk of passing it on if you do have it but people have focused on a single study which shows that in lab conditions, where nose swabs were taken, there could be the same viral load in the vaccinated and unvaccinated but even that showed that in the vaccinated the viral load dropped far quicker than in the unvaccinated.
Also said she hoped that vaccine passports and masks would be introduced, this was before the government announced the winter plan, to minimise hospitalisations without the need for another lockdown.
Finally said people are using terms like 'overwhelm the NHS' without understanding what they are talking about as they say levels aren't as high as last year and therefore the NHS can cope but that required shutting down everything that wasn't critical care to concentrate on covid. The levels of covid hospitalisations the NHS can cope with before other services are impacted is far lower and they're already, at least locally, very close to that level.
As I was leaving I asked specifically about attending matches. She said personally she wouldn't even consider going to an event with a large crowd of unmasked, and potentially unvaccinated, people.
Not exactly the reassurance I was looking for. On the bright side no cancer, no additional respiratory issues on top of what I already knew about, no issues with immune system, so onto another waiting list (12 months or longer thanks to the backlog) for another department and more tests.
Thanks will take mask tonight for me and othersHad a visit to the hospital yesterday to see a senior respiratory consultant after over 2 years of waiting. Asked about covid and if particular if I was wrong to be feeling anixious when everyone else seems to be acting like nothing ever happened. To be honest I was hoping for a 'if you're double jabbed there's little to worry about' type answer for re-assurance but I got nothing like that. Wasn't sure if I should post what she said but figured I might as well in case anyone is interested in an experts opinion.
Basically she said this is a long way from being over and people are too comfortable & complacent. Said it was best to look at hospitalisations & deaths rather than cases and both those figures are significantly higher than they were heading into last winter and rising.
Said the 'in the wild' data indicates that vaccination does lower the chance of getting covid and the risk of passing it on if you do have it but people have focused on a single study which shows that in lab conditions, where nose swabs were taken, there could be the same viral load in the vaccinated and unvaccinated but even that showed that in the vaccinated the viral load dropped far quicker than in the unvaccinated.
Also said she hoped that vaccine passports and masks would be introduced, this was before the government announced the winter plan, to minimise hospitalisations without the need for another lockdown.
Finally said people are using terms like 'overwhelm the NHS' without understanding what they are talking about as they say levels aren't as high as last year and therefore the NHS can cope but that required shutting down everything that wasn't critical care to concentrate on covid. The levels of covid hospitalisations the NHS can cope with before other services are impacted is far lower and they're already, at least locally, very close to that level.
As I was leaving I asked specifically about attending matches. She said personally she wouldn't even consider going to an event with a large crowd of unmasked, and potentially unvaccinated, people.
Not exactly the reassurance I was looking for. On the bright side no cancer, no additional respiratory issues on top of what I already knew about, no issues with immune system, so onto another waiting list (12 months or longer thanks to the backlog) for another department and more tests.
I must have missed it when the flu was able to bring an entire country to a standstill
So the 20 odd thousand it killed just a few years ago can be overlooked? The fact that it 100% causes symptoms in who it infects and forces people out of work?
They aren’t complete opposites as is being suggested.
I actually know somebody who has just passed away and it can surely only be attributed to long covid .
Was very poorly for months.
Sorry to hear that man
You're right that we'll get to a stage where for most it's just 'got a spot of Covid'. Not there yet mind, but one day...!I think I was referring to flu as a way we can interpret how our future looks .. that's all .
At one point one strain of flu was killing 25-50 million people .
And today it still kills 100s of thousands with vaccines
Thought myself it was a logical way of looking at where we could end up
That's the target. If we get to something similar to what we had with H1N1, couple of weeks at home and a few pills to take, that would be a best case scenario.You're right that we'll get to a stage where for most it's just 'got a spot of Covid'. Not there yet mind, but one day...!
You're right that we'll get to a stage where for most it's just 'got a spot of Covid'. Not there yet mind, but one day...!
Isn't it already like that though? The vast majority of people testing positive don't need hospital treatment.
I think the issue is that its always been thought the numbers will rise in the winter. We currently have 8,413 hospitalisations compared to 843 this time last year. Same story with ICU, currently 1,056, last year 92. We need hospitalisations to be at a level where the NHS can manage them effectively without it impacting on other services. Can't be in the position we've been in when numbers have gone up previously and everything else has to stop. There's already a huge backlog of other issues to deal with.Isn't it already like that though? The vast majority of people testing positive don't need hospital treatment.
My Missus drove past UHCW last night and said that there was an anti-vax protest taking place.
If you want to protest then that is your prerogative but outside a hospital? When staff have been at breaking point, when people can’t go and see family members because of COVID, people dying alone etc.
Nah, fuck you.
Pricks.My Missus drove past UHCW last night and said that there was an anti-vax protest taking place.
If you want to protest then that is your prerogative but outside a hospital? When staff have been at breaking point, when people can’t go and see family members because of COVID, people dying alone etc.
Nah, fuck you.
So.. face coverings in a crowded area among strangers help reduce the spread... but not mandated. That reassures for train journeys, eh.
Oh I think I know, the pub in Stoke Green / Aldermoor?it's not somebody close to me , my dad knew him well .. a few people would know him if I said which pub he ran
NoOh I think I know, the pub in Stoke Green / Aldermoor?
This could be a long guessing game...
SovereignThis could be a long guessing game...
Just had track and trace contact me my isolation finishes at midnight tonight rather than midnight tomorrow as I’d thought .
Had a random days annual leave booked for tomorrow, run planned
Ah, must be something differentSovereign
There’s a whole sub section on Reddit dedicated to stories like this.
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