Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics)

fernandopartridge

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I'm generally pro restrictions going but things like this make me wonder


The real answer is increased capacity in hospital but that won't happen overnight
 

robbiekeane

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Which is why I was trying to confirm. I didn't say cause of death.

I asked Pete if it was anybody who died who had a positive COVID test in the last 28 days.

It's a simple question, you still didn't answer it.
You know what's going to be interesting though, and just to be clear i'm a supporter of this metric and think its the most appropriate measure for covid deaths that we have and is statistically significant, is how this develops as we get more cases.

Noone is arguing the fact that using this measure includes a small number of people who have died from something unrelated but tested positive for covid in the last 28 days, just like it probably excludes people who have died from covid having tested positive 29+ days ago. The point is it's a proxy isn't it, and its statistically significant.

When cases absolutely skyrocket though, we will see this number go up from unrelated deaths. Using a ridiculous example to illustrate - if there were 35 million active cases of covid in the UK, 1 in every 2 deaths on average would flag up in this metric regardless of cause.

Not sure we will ever get to a level where it would obscure it though, so i just wasted 5 minutes writing this
 

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It's just a big coincidence that a lot of people with a positive covid test happen to die within 28 days of that test obviously

The reduction in the number of deaths due to the vaccine disproves the nonsense behind your conspiracy theory
There was no conspiracy theory.

A lot of people die every day without covid.
 

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I'm generally pro restrictions going but things like this make me wonder


The real answer is increased capacity in hospital but that won't happen overnight
This is generally seen on Twitter as a lie. Not saying it definitely is but only 8k followers. Don’t trust someone just because they have the word doctor in their name


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So it was bollocks Katie. Cheers


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I mean, she is right about the NHS being on its knees, but that shouldn't mean it's open season on just saying a load of mistruths.

Most of the reasons we have had restrictions is to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, but it gets overwhelmed extremely easily (separate argument as to why). Covid is not that menacing compared to something like Ebola. If that broke out here we would be absolutely fucked.
 

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I mean, she is right about the NHS being on its knees, but that shouldn't mean it's open season on just saying a load of mistruths.

Most of the reasons we have had restrictions is to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, but it gets overwhelmed extremely easily (separate argument as to why). Covid is not that menacing compared to something like Ebola. If that broke out here we would be absolutely fucked.
Not necessarily given that you can’t get asymptomatic Ebola and it’s transmitted only by contact with bodily fluids
 

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This is generally seen on Twitter as a lie. Not saying it definitely is but only 8k followers. Don’t trust someone just because they have the word doctor in their name


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Dr Dre is one of the best producers of all time and a half decent rapper as well. That’s you proven wrong.

Say sorry
 

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I mean, she is right about the NHS being on its knees, but that shouldn't mean it's open season on just saying a load of mistruths.

Most of the reasons we have had restrictions is to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, but it gets overwhelmed extremely easily (separate argument as to why). Covid is not that menacing compared to something like Ebola. If that broke out here we would be absolutely fucked.

Just seen this on twitter

Shes deleted her tweet the fucking prick.

Tweeting scaremongering stories that there are no paediatric ICU beds in the country is a scummy move.

Paediatric consultants all over twitter now saying this is bullshit and they're ok.

Can send people into a panic, we all adore our children and saying they can't be treated in an emergency is fucking low
 
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fernandopartridge

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I mean, she is right about the NHS being on its knees, but that shouldn't mean it's open season on just saying a load of mistruths.

Most of the reasons we have had restrictions is to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, but it gets overwhelmed extremely easily (separate argument as to why). Covid is not that menacing compared to something like Ebola. If that broke out here we would be absolutely fucked.
She's quite quickly corrected what she said
 
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Just seen this on twitter

Shes deleted her tweet the fucking prick.

Tweeting scaremongering stories that there are no paediatric ICU beds in the country is a scummy move.

Paediatric consultants all over twitter now saying this is bullshit and they're ok.

Can send people into a panic, we all adore our children and saying they can't be treated in an emergency is fucking low
What did this person say?

Edit: Yeah I just looked above and saw it
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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You’re right, a very stupid thing to say. And if freaks like Laurence Fox and the rest of the fruitcakes follow suit with some of their claims then maybe there would be a bit more balance around the place in general.
There doesn't need to be two sides of bullshit. None would be better.
 

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I’m genuinely pretty scared about where this is all leading to - the constant lying from Johnson,ie telling us we’d all be free at Easter if we had the jab,the constant shifting of the goalposts,a ‘ping’ system that is effectively locking shit loads of people away for days at a time even if there’s nothing potentially wrong with them…the list is endless
The more it all goes on,the more it makes you wonder if it really is all over a virus that’s still not the massive killer the news & media would have us believe - I do genuinely think our freedoms are slowly being taken away & as a country we‘re just too placid & believing Boris & his lies - you can see why France have been taking to the streets but,over here,there’s way too much apathy
I reckon there’ll be lockdowns again in a few weeks & it’s slowly starting to feel like the dark days of January all over again - very depressing times afoot
 

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I’m genuinely pretty scared about where this is all leading to - the constant lying from Johnson,ie telling us we’d all be free at Easter if we had the jab,the constant shifting of the goalposts,a ‘ping’ system that is effectively locking shit loads of people away for days at a time even if there’s nothing potentially wrong with them…the list is endless
The more it all goes on,the more it makes you wonder if it really is all over a virus that’s still not the massive killer the news & media would have us believe - I do genuinely think our freedoms are slowly being taken away & as a country we‘re just too placid & believing Boris & his lies - you can see why France have been taking to the streets but,over here,there’s way too much apathy
I reckon there’ll be lockdowns again in a few weeks & it’s slowly starting to feel like the dark days of January all over again - very depressing times afoot
I think you need to put the bong down.

For a start the government have said self isolating when you’re pinged is entirely voluntary.

This is the first pandemic in our lifetime so of course it feels weird. But we’ve just followed very basic public health. And not even that for large chunks.

The most basic freedom is right to life. Putting a bit of cloth over your mouth or being asked to work from home isn’t the gulag. Yes we’ve had to limit people’s activities in a time of national crisis, just like people had to in the war, in fact during the war people had far far far less freedoms. (Yet the same people who witter on about freedoms today also love to bang on about the war and blitz spirit and the rest weirdly)
 

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I’m genuinely pretty scared about where this is all leading to - the constant lying from Johnson,ie telling us we’d all be free at Easter if we had the jab,the constant shifting of the goalposts,a ‘ping’ system that is effectively locking shit loads of people away for days at a time even if there’s nothing potentially wrong with them…the list is endless
The more it all goes on,the more it makes you wonder if it really is all over a virus that’s still not the massive killer the news & media would have us believe - I do genuinely think our freedoms are slowly being taken away & as a country we‘re just too placid & believing Boris & his lies - you can see why France have been taking to the streets but,over here,there’s way too much apathy
I reckon there’ll be lockdowns again in a few weeks & it’s slowly starting to feel like the dark days of January all over again - very depressing times afoot
At least 4m deaths my friend
 

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I think more cushy middle class jobs being able to be done from wherever
How dare we rebalance the economy away from London and towards deprived coastal towns?

And you’re one to talk. A huge benefit when I was teaching was the knowledge that my work is spread all over the planet, there’s not an area without schools anywhere. I could’ve worked in Dubai, America, Barbados, anywhere.

In my new career most of my work is in Manchester or London until recently.