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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #40,566
Rich said:
History shows that viruses have a second, third and possibly fourth peak. The second is generally worse than the first.
It was inevitable that no matter what restrictions were taken we would suffer worse this time than the first outbreak.
Fingers crossed with the injections we can avoid a severe third/fourth peak. (Arguably this is the third as it dipped after November lockdown).
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Perhaps but we had a terrible first peak and have wiped the floor with it on the second. This is the double dip of the second wave as I predicted would happen.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #40,567
jordan210 said:
Please remember that the the daily death figures are from the day reported.

So todays numbers included back dated figures.

Covid: UK reports 1,820 deaths as Johnson warns tough weeks to come

A further 1,820 people die in the UK within 28 days of a positive test - another all-time high.
www.bbc.co.uk

"Just under half of the newly reported deaths reported occurred on Tuesday, while a further quarter took place on Monday or Sunday."

Obviously the numbers are still far too hight and its inedibly sad.

But the positive case rate is dropping. So a little bit of good news.
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You keep saying this but the deaths by date of death data is just as fucking awful

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard
coronavirus.data.gov.uk
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #40,568
David O'Day said:
You keep saying this but the deaths by date of death data is just as fucking awful

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard
coronavirus.data.gov.uk
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Just FYI



But yes the numbers are awful. But it does appear the headline numbers have to be taken with a pinch of salt to get a true daily reflection.

I expect the numbers to be just as high for the next week or so sadly. Then it should start to drop inline with the drop in positive cases.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #40,569
jordan210 said:
Just FYI

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But yes the numbers are awful. But it does appear the headline numbers have to be taken with a pinch of salt to get a true daily reflection.

I expect the numbers to be just as high for the next week or so sadly. Then it should start to drop inline with the drop in positive cases.
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and? I've linked you to the deaths per day of death figures so reporting delays have fuck all to do with anything

The actual deaths per day are at a par with the very worse we have seen and given the hospitalisation rates and time from test to hospital to death are likely to be high for a while.
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 20, 2021
  • #40,570
David O'Day said:
and? I've linked you to the deaths per day of death figures so reporting delays have fuck all to do with anything

The actual deaths per day are at a par with the very worse we have seen and given the hospitalisation rates and time from test to hospital to death are likely to be high for a while.
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The press quote 1800 daily deaths what include delays and actual per day is 1000-1100. So you do need to take them with a pinch of salt.

At no point have I said any thing about being less than what we have seen. All I said if you have to take the daily with a pinch of salt as some people use it as a gospel.

But if you look at the data it looks like we might have passed the peak.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,571
jordan210 said:
The press quote 1800 daily deaths what include delays and actual per day is 1000-1100. So you do need to take them with a pinch of salt.

At no point have I said any thing about being less than what we have seen. All I said if you have to take the daily with a pinch of salt as some people use it as a gospel.

But if you look at the data it looks like we might have passed the peak.
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Peak of new cases yes peak of deaths not a chance, got to remember deaths follow normally 3/4 weeks after, deaths will be in the thousand/s until mid Feb at the earliest.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,572
David O'Day said:
and? I've linked you to the deaths per day of death figures so reporting delays have fuck all to do with anything

The actual deaths per day are at a par with the very worse we have seen and given the hospitalisation rates and time from test to hospital to death are likely to be high for a while.
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It's as if no other countries celebrate Christmas and New year
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,573
Awful start to the year and significant problems in the north with flooding in the news if you can find it under BBC’s 3 day USA wide on
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,574
Macca said:
Awful start to the year and significant problems in the north with flooding in the news if you can find it under BBC’s 3 day USA wide on
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Front page of the bbc site next to this which is awful

Covid: Infections 'must be brought down' to help NHS

Researchers warn that unless something changes, hospitals will continue facing significant pressure.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,575
David O'Day said:
Front page of the bbc site next to this which is awful

Covid: Infections 'must be brought down' to help NHS

Researchers warn that unless something changes, hospitals will continue facing significant pressure.
www.bbc.co.uk
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On typing this morning both current news stories were secondary to USA. Anyway yes I read this. It’s the perfect storm of winter health wise that was predicted. A looser lockdown than last year along with a more critical situation virus wise. Pretty typical of this Governments clusterfuck management of the situation
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,576
I can’t be the only one who stopped reading this article the moment it stated that the kebab house wasn’t named?

Dad travelled 170 miles with wife and kids for a kebab in Cov

He travelled from Exeter to Coventry then crashed on the return journey near Bristol
www.coventrytelegraph.net


p.s. I recommend German Doner Kebab
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,577
LastGarrison said:
I can’t be the only one who stopped reading this article the moment it stated that the kebab house wasn’t named?

Dad travelled 170 miles with wife and kids for a kebab in Cov

He travelled from Exeter to Coventry then crashed on the return journey near Bristol
www.coventrytelegraph.net


p.s. I recommend German Doner Kebab
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There's been a few of these. I just don't get it, are they giving that as a BS excuse to cover something else?

Surely nobody in their right mind does that even when there's not a pandemic, I'll thing about getting a Nando's and not bother as its too much hassle to go and pick up and that's 5 minutes away.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,578
chiefdave said:
There's been a few of these. I just don't get it, are they giving that as a BS excuse to cover something else?

Surely nobody in their right mind does that even when there's not a pandemic, I'll thing about getting a Nando's and not bother as its too much hassle to go and pick up and that's 5 minutes away.
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Their top choice of dealer is in Coventry, I'd wager
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,579
LastGarrison said:
I can’t be the only one who stopped reading this article the moment it stated that the kebab house wasn’t named?

Dad travelled 170 miles with wife and kids for a kebab in Cov

He travelled from Exeter to Coventry then crashed on the return journey near Bristol
www.coventrytelegraph.net


p.s. I recommend German Doner Kebab
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Love GDK haven’t been in years
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,580
I tried GDK, didn't rate it at all. My favourite place in Cov is Pasha on Far Gosford St
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,581
I wasnt going but thats a kick in the teeth.

We're being promised a lot more normality with the vaccine yet this is cancelled 6 months already.

Doesnt bode well for summer does it
 

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,582
Saddlebrains said:
I wasnt going but thats a kick in the teeth.

We're being promised a lot more normality with the vaccine yet this is cancelled 6 months already.

Doesnt bode well for summer does it
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tbh, it's as much the hassle of organising things while there are restrictions, as much as the risk of it not being able to happen on the day.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,583
Saddlebrains said:
I wasnt going but thats a kick in the teeth.

We're being promised a lot more normality with the vaccine yet this is cancelled 6 months already.

Doesnt bode well for summer does it
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Being realistic, the priority people can only really be considered vaccinated once they've had their second jab, which is looking like it'll be well into May. I expect that national lockdown might be relieved once all those on the priority list have had their first jab, but only to the local tiers which might gradually be reduced as the infection levels drop.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,584
Saddlebrains said:
Doesnt bode well for summer does it
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Its not so much a case of what things will be like in the summer as the uncertainly. The costs of putting on a festival don't start the day they open the gates or even the day they start putting the bill together.

You're looking at paying out a lot of money upfront for an event that may not happen and, given that covid is already a known thing which is likely exempt from insurance, something they would't be able to make a claim for if it ended up being called off.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,585
I had a look at some data on NHS England earlier, in response to a tweet from one of the many arseholes that hang around Carl Heneghan's tweets. He'd said that this year was no different to last year as occupancy of critical care beds was no higher as a percentage of capacity.

NHSE publishes sitreps about bed capacity / occupancy. I had a look at two dates to compare:

17 Jan 20: 3066 critical care beds occupied of capacity of 3679 (83%)
17 Jan 21: 5176 critical care beds occupied of capacity of 5992 (86%)

That's a 68% rise in occupancy.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,586
fernandopartridge said:
Being realistic, the priority people can only really be considered vaccinated once they've had their second jab, which is looking like it'll be well into May.
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Glasto is June and you'd think the majority of the crowd would be in groups not covered but the first round of vaccinations.

Would you really risk putting 200K people, mostly unvaccinated, in a field for a week in pretty unhygienic conditions? Seems a big risk to take.

Doesn't mean you won't be able to go and sit in a pub beer garden in the summer.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,587
Saddlebrains said:
I wasnt going but thats a kick in the teeth.

We're being promised a lot more normality with the vaccine yet this is cancelled 6 months already.

Doesnt bode well for summer does it
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Shambala tickets are going on sale as the organisers are optimistic they'll be able to do it in late August. Glastonbury was never going ahead with the size of it and it being early season.

Just focus on building up and getting the little wins. First picnic in the sun, pint back in a a pub, not having to book to go to the pub etc. then before you know it we'll be back.
 
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tisza

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,588
chiefdave said:
There's been a few of these. I just don't get it, are they giving that as a BS excuse to cover something else?

Surely nobody in their right mind does that even when there's not a pandemic, I'll thing about getting a Nando's and not bother as its too much hassle to go and pick up and that's 5 minutes away.
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Isn't there an SBT poster who now lives in Exeter???
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,589
chiefdave said:
Glasto is June and you'd think the majority of the crowd would be in groups not covered but the first round of vaccinations.

Would you really risk putting 200K people, mostly unvaccinated, in a field for a week in pretty unhygienic conditions? Seems a big risk to take.

Doesn't mean you won't be able to go and sit in a pub beer garden in the summer.
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If the top 9 groups are done by then I don’t see why not, but that’s the problem, it’s not guaranteed and probably easier to cancel now
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,590
Saddlebrains said:
I wasnt going but thats a kick in the teeth.

We're being promised a lot more normality with the vaccine yet this is cancelled 6 months already.

Doesnt bode well for summer does it
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Dont really see the issue, not really a kick in the teeth.

More naive to think shit like that will happen this year and people booking holidays.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,591
Nick said:
Dont really see the issue, not really a kick in the teeth.

More naive to think shit like that will happen this year and people booking holidays.
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Aye postponed the honeymoon this year, going down south instead
 

covmark

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,592
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Aye postponed the honeymoon this year, going down south instead
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Yeah cancelled our holiday again, going to Wales instead hopefully.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
 

LastGarrison

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,593
fernandopartridge said:
I tried GDK, didn't rate it at all. My favourite place in Cov is Pasha on Far Gosford St
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You need to give it a second try. The one in the Burges is lovely.

I’ve used Pasha a lot over the past few years, mainly when hanging on a Monday, and it is ok but not a patch on Antalya which is the best Turkish in Cov IMO.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,594
LastGarrison said:
You need to give it a second try. The one in the Burges is lovely.

I’ve used Pasha a lot over the past few years, mainly when hanging on a Monday, and it is ok but not a patch on Antalya which is the best Turkish in Cov IMO.
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Disappointing there’s no good Greek places to my knowledge
 

LastGarrison

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,595
I’ve just booked Jimmy Carr for a social distanced gig at the new Empire in April.

Still seems a bit early but gives me something to look forward to and at £60 for two tickets it’s a shot to nothing.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,596
LastGarrison said:
The one in the Burges is lovely.
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Can you park anywhere down there if you order for collection?
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Disappointing there’s no good Greek places to my knowledge
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Seems to be a shortage of a decent Mexican in Cov.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,597
chiefdave said:
Can you park anywhere down there if you order for collection?

Seems to be a shortage of a decent Mexican in Cov.
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There was a good one we went to on Spon St, food was good but took a long time as just 2 working the kitchen
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,598
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Disappointing there’s no good Greek places to my knowledge
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My daughters boyfriend is just setting one up . I’ll post the details when it’s open
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,599
Sky Blue Pete said:
My daughters boyfriend is just setting one up . I’ll post the details when it’s open
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Look at that @Brighton Sky Blue - you ask about it and Pete delivers, that's feta that is
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jan 21, 2021
  • #40,600
Deleted member 5849 said:
Their top choice of dealer is in Coventry, I'd wager
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Casinos are all closed aren’t they
 
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