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Rarely cheer on a non Brit fighter but love him. Quality man and fighter
fatso
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Yes, but against a very average opponent.
2 years after their first fight and Usyk was even more convincing
One with power though, stuffed Fury and AJ twice as well. All far bigger men. Hope he retires as he’s done all he needs to do
Samueljames1991
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Usyk is a joke definitely in the heavyweight GOAT discussion now
fatso
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Usyk took Dubois jab out of the game by his footwork, he got Dubois over extending and picked him off with counter punches.
That was a master class in tactics. Not many people will appreciate just how good a game plan Usyk had.
Fury troubled Usyk with the uppercut, but Dubois never tried one, we know hes vulnerable to the body, but Dubois only tried one of note
Samueljames1991
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Samueljames1991
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Would of been some fight that
Dubois had to go for the knock out but is limited. Usky battered fury around the ring even though fury was 3-4 stone and half a foot taller and for his height an amazing mover, Usyk head and shoulders HW of his generation. Dubois has got power and hurt Usyk to the body first fight, if he could catch him could hurt him, but Usyk is just too good
What he’s done when considering his natural size is amazing
fatso
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I'd like to see Usyk vs Parker next.
Parker has earnt the right for a crack at the undisputed title.
But if Usyk were to retire he'd go down as one of the best of all time. And certainly the best since Mike Tyson.
fatso
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Mike tyson was and still is the best heavyweight since Ali.
Before his imprisonment he was untouchable. Before he started fighting purely for money he was unbeatable.
In his prime he'd of smashed Holyfield and Lewis out of the ring.
Prison cost him over 4 years out of the ring, and without Cus D'amoto he was never the same animal.
He is undoubtedly the most underrated heavyweight of all time. Genuinely the GOAT. His footwork and upper body movement has never been matched since.
He had genuine knockout power in both fists, as well as being a master of the dark arts.
As good as Usyk is today, he wouldn't of got near Tyson. The fact that Usyk can step up from Cruiserweight to be undisputed heavyweight shows just how average the division is today.
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ovduk78
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Just seen some highlights, commentator was awful, sounded like he was shouting in a phone box
rob9872
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Sorry mate, still disagree. He was awesome when he burst o the scene and as a young inexperienced fighter, destroyed everything in his path, but when he reached elite level, he didn't have the skill or knowhow to get the results. A smart fighter like Usyk or Lewis, would have too much for him imo. Tyson was a warrior and the best at what he did, but for pure boxing craft I think there's an argument he's not even in the top 10, although as with football or anything else its difficult to compare eras.