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  • Start date Dec 15, 2021
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #806
fernandopartridge said:
I'm bound by those rules and see no problem at all with binmen going home once they've finished their round, apart from pure spite why would somebody care?
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cool, but you are not everyone.

If you put it to poll most people would not support a strike based on this, most people would have a reaction like Nick

That is just people for you
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #807
fernandopartridge said:
You get paid more for performing more tasks than you are contractually obliged so it'd still be a thing
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Not sure how you would define the exact number of tasks per contract as opposed to hours though. (In wider industries).

Surely if everybody at work is finishing a few hours early every day then everything is done and there isn't any need for over time?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #808
shmmeee said:
This equal pay stuff is mental. Who cares if a job is paid by task or by hour? (Other than Nick) And how is that not equal pay?
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Yeah I don't get that. Surely agile working comes into play anyway nowadays with the other roles?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #809
Evo1883 said:
Most of us have accepted we are losing task and finish , I personally don't think a strike will happen ..
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I'd assume informally the same as now will happen anyway?
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #810
We will just go slower and finish later , no issues
 
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SBAndy

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #811
Evo1883 said:
We will just go slower and finish later , no issues
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And so productivity (in a microcosm) declines.

(Evo, not a dig at you in the slightest, just find it ridiculous that efficiency is being punished)
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #812
Evo1883 said:
We will just go slower and finish later , no issues
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Surely a decent manager just says carry on as you are, we'll say nothing?

I mean, until this report I hadn't even realised it was a thing anyway
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #813
Deleted member 5849 said:
Surely a decent manager just says carry on as you are, we'll say nothing?

I mean, until this report I hadn't even realised it was a thing anyway
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Main management is based at London Road with us , they see it all mate
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #814
Deleted member 5849 said:
Surely a decent manager just says carry on as you are, we'll say nothing?

I mean, until this report I hadn't even realised it was a thing anyway
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Task and finish is in our contracts , not for much longer
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #815
Nick said:
Not sure how you would define the exact number of tasks per contract as opposed to hours though. (In wider industries).

Surely if everybody at work is finishing a few hours early every day then everything is done and there isn't any need for over time?
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Few things:

1. It would be impossible to implement across every job as each have different needs/aims. A shop till worker will be needed on a time metric as the workload doesn’t ‘go down’ as you complete a task (i.e. serve a customer).

2. Overtime is a bit of a sham anyway in my opinion. I know people personally who will slow-play the working day knowing they will get OT opportunities as a result. OT is only really a solution when workload spikes unexpectedly.

3. As per my post above, it doesn’t matter to me, you or anyone how long a task takes if it’s done and done correctly. Couldn’t give a flying fuck if Evo is the Lewis Hamilton of the bin man world and his crew complete their round in 3 minutes. Crack on.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #816
Maybe they’re going to expand your responsibilities Evo:

 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #817
Honestly lads I love my job good pension 4 days a week always home at night with the kids and decent pay ..I'm good , @Tommo1993 will tell you , its a good place to work
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #818
Evo1883 said:
Task and finish is in our contracts , not for much longer
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That doesn't matter for what a manager can say. Contacts don't have to be adhered to literally unless somebody demands that
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #819
Deleted member 5849 said:
That doesn't matter for what a manager can say. Contacts don't have to be adhered to literally unless somebody demands that
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isn't the issue that female council staff members are using it to put equal pay claims in?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #820
David O'Day said:
isn't the issue that female council staff members are using it to put equal pay claims in?
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change your contract, management say carry on as you were anyway, everybody's happy.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #821
David O'Day said:
isn't the issue that female council staff members are using it to put equal pay claims in?
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Male and female but yes
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #822
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change your contract, management say carry on as you were anyway, everybody's happy.
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The only thing thay will change from today is I will have to leave 90 minutes later than I currently do
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #823
Deleted member 5849 said:
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying change your contract, management say carry on as you were anyway, everybody's happy.
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change to what? if they go home early it opens up the equal pay claims
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #824
David O'Day said:
change to what? if they go home early it opens up the equal pay claims
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Can’t say I know enough about this whole ‘equal pay’ situation but is it inter-departmental?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #825
David O'Day said:
change to what? if they go home early it opens up the equal pay claims
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It doesn't if it's management's decision to not notice that happening!
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #826
Deleted member 5849 said:
It doesn't if it's management's decision to not notice that happening!
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how do you do that when someone is investigating a legal pay claim into it?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #827
Evo1883 said:
Honestly lads I love my job good pension 4 days a week always home at night with the kids and decent pay ..I'm good , @Tommo1993 will tell you , its a good place to work
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I miss it a lot mate. Gutted they couldn’t contract the last of us for a little bit longer. Just couldn’t live on that uncertainty.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #828
David O'Day said:
how do you do that when someone is investigating a legal pay claim into it?
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The contract changes, they work under a new contract...
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #829
Tommo1993 said:
I miss it a lot mate. Gutted they couldn’t contract the last of us for a little bit longer. Just couldn’t live on that uncertainty.
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They're all getting council contracts over the next few weeks .
Tom White going pretty much
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #830
Evo1883 said:
They're all getting council contracts over the next few weeks .
Tom White going pretty much
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Bloody had a feeling that’d happen!
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #831
When I was a teen I was told there’s a waiting list to become a bin man, is that true? Is it a hard job to get into?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #832
shmmeee said:
When I was a teen I was told there’s a waiting list to become a bin man, is that true? Is it a hard job to get into?
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Well if I'm honest not many people leave that get contracts , it's hard to get council contracts normally , many blokes been there between 10 and 40 years

No waiting list though
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #833
shmmeee said:
When I was a teen I was told there’s a waiting list to become a bin man, is that true? Is it a hard job to get into?
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If employed on local authority terms and with pension etc you can see the attraction

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 8, 2023
  • #834
fernandopartridge said:
If employed on local authority terms and with pension etc you can see the attraction

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
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The pension and terms and conditions are both very good imho
 
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