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Ben Stevenson - Brentford (1 Viewer)

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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #281
Brentford rejected a 10 million bid for one of their players today.
So they are likely to be flush soon.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #282
Sky Blue Kid, as you instinctively believe every word out of Fisher's mouth could you please tell me where the new stadium is?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #283
Grendel said:
He said the operating losses this year were £1.7 million but with player sales their is a £1 million surplus.

It means nothing as the club is operating at a loss and any surplus is absorbed by the loss.

Even if everything stayed as is (turnover has to now be worse) we would still need to raise £700k next year to exist. As it's worse chances are it will need to be £2 million.
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Thanks
So effectively as we thought before we are not running at breakeven, we have to sell players to get anywhere near to breakeven.
Joy Sepalla said her aim is the club to run at breakeven and the selling of players happens at a time of the club's preference. Not as a necessity to balance the books.
Looks like more cuts are to come
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #284
Liquid Gold said:
Sky Blue Kid, as you instinctively believe every word out of Fisher's mouth could you please tell me where the new stadium is?
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Nene Park - Wikipedia

For when we have to move "as we have no choice again and are getting forced out of the city"
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #285
dongonzalos said:
Nene Park - Wikipedia

For when we have to move "as we have no choice again and are getting forced out of the city"
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Not really the point I was trying to make but the "have no choice" excuse is why the council, if they really care about us fans, should be calling sisu's bluff by offering alternative sites.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #286
Liquid Gold said:
Not really the point I was trying to make but the "have no choice" excuse is why the council, if they really care about us fans, should be calling sisu's bluff by offering alternative sites.
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Where?

Edit: also obligatory "It's not anyone's job but CCFC to run CCFC" post.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #287
dongonzalos said:
Thanks
So effectively as we thought before we are not running at breakeven, we have to sell players to get anywhere near to breakeven.
Joy Sepalla said her aim is the club to run at breakeven and the selling of players happens at a time of the club's preference. Not as a necessity to balance the books.
Looks like more cuts are to come
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Yes, when they say we are working towards running a break even model. That model is reliant on us selling at least £1-1.5 million pounds of talent every season.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #288
shmmeee said:
Where?

Edit: also obligatory "It's not anyone's job but CCFC to run CCFC" post.
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Anywhere, it doesn't matter. They aren't actually going to build the thing, will just stop them being able to tell the FA they had no option but to move us
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #289
Liquid Gold said:
Anywhere, it doesn't matter. They aren't actually going to build the thing, will just stop them being able to tell the FA they had no option but to move us
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Well it does matter doesn't it? They can't offer Sisu a 2 bed terrace in Foleshill for a new stadium.

The fact is we have all been trawling Google Maps for four years and the best solutions anyone has come up with are: The BPA, Warwick Uni and Bermuda Park. None of which are CCC's to offer.

They may well have no option but to move us, as I've said eleventy billion times before, that's why you sort out your new home before telling your landlord he's a c**t and you want nothing to do with him.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #290
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Yes, when they say we are working towards running a break even model. That model is reliant on us selling at least £1-1.5 million pounds of talent every season.
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I don't think that is the model.
I think the model is breakeven regardless of player sales.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #291
Liquid Gold said:
Not really the point I was trying to make but the "have no choice" excuse is why the council, if they really care about us fans, should be calling sisu's bluff by offering alternative sites.
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Or we could submit planning permission for some sites ( you don't have to have purchased land prior to submitting planning permission. If the planning permission gets through we are in business.
Have we made any serious enquiries for any sites?
I think it's our job to sort that out isn't it rather than depending on a person for help that on the other hand we are suing.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #292
dongonzalos said:
Or we could submit planning permission for some sites ( you don't have to have purchased land prior to submitting planning permission. If the planning permission gets through we are in business.
Have we made any serious enquiries for any sites?
I think it's our job to sort that out isn't it rather than depending on a person for help that on the other hand we are suing.
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In any normal circumstances of course you'd be right. Do you think sisu intend to build a new stadium though? If, as long as you're not a raving lunatic, you think they won't then there's a possibility they might want to take us out of the city again. To do so they would need to make a case to the EFL that they have no other option. If CCC public called sisu on their shit then it might close another avenue to them, possibly hastening their exit from the club. I just can't understand why people don't want pressure on them from all sides.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #293
shmmeee said:
Well it does matter doesn't it? They can't offer Sisu a 2 bed terrace in Foleshill for a new stadium.

The fact is we have all been trawling Google Maps for four years and the best solutions anyone has come up with are: The BPA, Warwick Uni and Bermuda Park. None of which are CCC's to offer.

They may well have no option but to move us, as I've said eleventy billion times before, that's why you sort out your new home before telling your landlord he's a c**t and you want nothing to do with him.
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Are you saying that if an internationally renowned manufacturer wanted Coventry to be the site of it's new headquarters we wouldn't be able to find a site? There is always room.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #294
I like your thinking however.
Last time the FL let us move because we were 'forced' there were reasonable options available that we would not take. The FL said it's not their place to intervene in such matters. Just as long as we pay money to say we will return one day and we keep our fixtures!!!
 
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higgs

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  • Jan 4, 2017
  • #295
Should wait until hogan Is sold can demand hIgher fee then

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #296
Liquid Gold said:
Sky Blue Kid, as you instinctively believe every word out of Fisher's mouth could you please tell me where the new stadium is?
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You really don't get the point I was making do you! Would you like me to break it down into "Bitesize" chunks for you?
 

hutch1972

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #297
Crazy times !!
Brentford want 15 mill for a player who has had a good 18 months , we want 2 mill for a player with only a handful of games under his belt.
I say again Crazy times !
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #298
hutch1972 said:
Crazy times !!
Brentford want 15 mill for a player who has had a good 18 months , we want 2 mill for a player with only a handful of games under his belt.
I say again Crazy times !
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Tis crazy indeed but Hogan is well worth £15 million to a prem team. I saw him play quite a bit for Rochdale and always looked quality even back then.
 
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steve82

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #299
Sounds like a second bid has been rejected now.
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #300
steve82 said:
Sounds like a second bid has been rejected now.
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I imagine they offered £500k first, then £750k, but SISU want £1mill plus, I don't think they've sold any of our youth players for any less than that before?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #301
It's should be good money eventually then!!!
 

idm1975

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #302
skybluebeduff said:
I imagine they offered £500k first, then £750k, but SISU want £1mill plus, I don't think they've sold any of our youth players for any less than that before?
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Ben turner?
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #303
idm1975 said:
Ben turner?
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His injury probably made the cost less than what he was worth, maybe? He definitely signed for Cardiff with an injury though.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #304
steve82 said:
Sounds like a second bid has been rejected now.
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I have a Question, when they say Coventry City have turned down a second did from Brentford for Stevenson,

Is that SISU or Tim Fisher who are saying it.

Because it wouldn't the team manager Russell Slade would it, or would it.
 

hutch1972

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  • Jan 5, 2017
  • #305
Sky sports reported the first bid was 1.2 mill ,but as we all know it was probably guesswork.
 

Otis

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #306
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I have a Question, when they say Coventry City have turned down a second did from Brentford for Stevenson,

Is that SISU or Tim Fisher who are saying it.

Because it wouldn't the team manager Russell Slade would it, or would it.
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It will be the Coventry City board.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #307
Liquid Gold said:
In any normal circumstances of course you'd be right. Do you think sisu intend to build a new stadium though? If, as long as you're not a raving lunatic, you think they won't then there's a possibility they might want to take us out of the city again. To do so they would need to make a case to the EFL that they have no other option. If CCC public called sisu on their shit then it might close another avenue to them, possibly hastening their exit from the club. I just can't understand why people don't want pressure on them from all sides.
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It sounds good in principle.

But it isn't the job of CCC to find land inside Coventry that doesn't exist that they don't own. So how far are CCC supposed to go? See if there is room somewhere, see if the owner is willing to sell, check out if planning permission is likely to go through concerning the thoughts of people nearby and even raise funds to help?

I can see it now. JR number 17 because CCC didn't negotiate a decent price for the land or it wasn't in the right location.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #308
Telegraph reporting that Brentford are confident of getting Stevenson. Club want £1.5m upfront with a 10% sell on fee
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #309
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Telegraph reporting that Brentford are confident of getting Stevenson. Club want £1.5m upfront with a 10% sell on fee
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That's a shit sell on %.

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Nick

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #310
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Telegraph reporting that Brentford are confident of getting Stevenson. Club want £1.5m upfront with a 10% sell on fee
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The same as they ruled out Harries and Liverpool?

I'd say mostly guesswork or from random accounts on social media.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #311
Fisher stated he doesn't get paid by sisu for his role here but does he get a kick back from in coming transfer fees ?
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #312
rupert_bear said:
Fisher stated he doesn't get paid by sisu for his role here but does he get a kick back from in coming transfer fees ?
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who knows, nothing of the sort has been mentioned but why not throw it out there as a rumour to keep the hate going?
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #313
robbiekeane said:
who knows, nothing of the sort has been mentioned but why not throw it out there as a rumour to keep the hate going?
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This sort of thing is getting more and more blatant now.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #314
Fisher goes door to door slaughtering newborn babies, he makes money by selling the blood to Coca-Cola
 
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idm1975

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  • Jan 6, 2017
  • #315
ajsccfc said:
Fisher goes door to door slaughtering newborn babies, he makes money by selling the blood to Coca-Cola
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I knew it!
 
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