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Transfer Rumour Ben Sheaf (4 Viewers)

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #456
covcity4life said:
But that's what people buy him for

Hes a defender that can pass and attack also. Yes he can make big mistakes st times due to this but he is clearly a player where the pros outweighs the cons so i am not sure why some fans only focus on defensive mistakes

And don't say because a defender should defend first and foremost because thays clearly not true based on the clubs that buy Luiz. The game of football can utilise different attributes all over the pitch now and he plays his part for this clubs
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Luiz for me is like McFadz is for us (not comparing) they don’t suit the 2 man defence, however that extra defender allows him to confortably play his own game.

arsenal look better when they play a 3 man defence, it allows Luiz’s ball playing ability to shine
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #457
cc84cov said:
It puts it out there tho doesn’t it
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I imagine it's the agent that puts it out there.
 

Terry_dactyl

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #458
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Tekkers are those people like on youtube who do lots of fancy tricks and keepie-uppies.

When is he making those assists? Very rarely when they're in dire need of that bit of magic to turn a game. It's him taking advantage of another team that's already being over-run. As for work rate do you mean 'running around'? It's easy to do loads of that while hiding away from actually getting involved in a game. I'm not saying he should be going around flying into people but when the team are playing poorly he 'hides' - he doesn't make himself available.

He's someone that takes a 2-0 win and makes it a 4-0 win but won't salvage a 1-1 draw from a 1-0 defeat and would turn as many draws into defeats by not getting involved as he would turn them into wins with a bit of magic. He's a luxury a team can't afford. A 'fluff' footballer.
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I think I’d agree that he’s probably not what Arsenal need/needed.
Not sure about the details of assists, I’m actually not convinced by ‘assists’ as a stat anyway...but that’s another discussion. I’m sure he’s probably had good games against big teams and in battling situations. I seem to remember him and Sanchez linking up really well...and they finished 2nd one year so it’s likely he was contributing no?
i think the stat about Ozil was about ‘running around’ yes. I don’t know if he’s been running around away from the ball or not.
One thing is for sure, Arsenal need to get rid of him if they’re not going to play him.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #459
So is David Luiz signing or not?
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #460
I'd hope the Luton link is like when Westbrook was off to Derby or wherever,and just an attempt bargaining power
Geography would likely be onside though.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #461
I can’t find anything about the Luton interest
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #462
Anyone who picks Luton over cov needs help
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #463
larry_david said:
Saw an article from Feb that suggested he still had hopes to play for arsenal. Not surprising he hasn't jumped at cov or Luton just yet
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He’s 22 years old and was playing for Doncaster last season. It’s good to dream big but the chances of him playing for Arsenal in the near future are approximately 0%
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #464
Have a feeling we will miss out on this one
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #465
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I can’t find anything about the Luton interest
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Pretty sure I've read it .
Outside of here too.
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #466
wingy said:
Pretty sure I've read it .
Outside of here too.
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CET is the only place I’ve seen it,they said were competing with Luton
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #467
cc84cov said:
CET is the only place I’ve seen it,they said were competing with Luton
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Ah must have read it when one of those rediculous headers pulled me in .
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #468
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's kind of the point. These players don't get their frailties exposed because of the teams that pick them up. Their defensive inability isn't shown up because they play for teams that don't need to defend as much. If you'd put Stones and Luiz into a team that doesn't control games and actually made them do defensive work that team would be conceding ridiculous amounts because they'd make so many mistakes.

So you can argue they can play the ball, but if they were that decent at it they'd be midfielders wouldn't they? So what we're saying is not good enough to be a midfielder, not good enough as a defender either. They're utterly reliant on very good teammates around them not letting them having their weaknesses exposed.

I feel similarly about Ozil. Doesn't get involved at all, a complete shirker unless the team is playing well and dominating a game in which case he brings his A game out. But if the team is doing well already they don't need him in there doing that because they're already comfortably on top and will likely win the game without him. What they need is somebody who can take a game they're not doing well in and bring them back into it. He doesn't. He shys away and you may as well play with 10 men most of the time in those situations. So what exactly does he provide? He's utterly inconsequential and has almost no effect on the outcome of a game.
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I get your point but those clubs wouldnt win trophies without him either? If they are just covering his mistakes ehat would be point of buying him in first place?
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #469
covcity4life said:
I get your point but those clubs wouldnt win trophies without him easier? If they are just covering his mistakes ehat would be point of buying him in first place?
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sky blues talk and we’re talking about stones and David Luiz
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 10, 2020
  • #470
cc84cov said:
sky blues talk and we’re talking about stones and David Luiz
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The robins effect
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #471
Love these

Ben Sheaf Scout Report At Doncaster Rovers 2019/2020

Ben Sheaf Scouting Report At Doncaster Rovers 2019/2020
totalfootballanalysis.com
 
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SkyBlueGuy

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #472
shmmeee said:
Love these

Ben Sheaf Scout Report At Doncaster Rovers 2019/2020

Ben Sheaf Scouting Report At Doncaster Rovers 2019/2020
totalfootballanalysis.com
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Reading that you can see why he is a player we are looking at. Would fit well into our system it would seem
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #473
shmmeee said:
Love these

Ben Sheaf Scout Report At Doncaster Rovers 2019/2020

Ben Sheaf Scouting Report At Doncaster Rovers 2019/2020
totalfootballanalysis.com
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They are brilliant for stat nerds like me
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #474
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #475
SleepyGinger said:
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That's why I'm talking....

 
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wingy

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #476
Cryptic from Nixon.
More than one destination?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #477
SleepyGinger said:
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Apparently he's in France at the moment (according to @Tom Leach )
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #478
mark82 said:
Apparently he's in France at the moment (according to @Tom Leach )
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So...not talking. And talking. Unless it’s all done through agents?
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #479
mark82 said:
Apparently he's in France at the moment (according to @Tom Leach )
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"Je veux plus d'argent"
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #480
Liquid Gold said:
"Je veux plus d'argent"
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"Nous n'avons pas un pot to piss in"
 
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rhino1002

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #481
Liquid Gold said:
"Je veux plus d'argent"
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Don't we all
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #482
Quelle heure est il - it's Sheafo time
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #483
Mange tout Rodney
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #484
Tout de suite !!
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #485
Thinking over the move on holiday then

Lack of commitment - SELL ASAP
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #486
cc84cov said:
Thinking over the move on holiday then

Lack of commitment - SELL ASAP
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He's entitled to a holiday while the opportunity is there I think.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #487
wingy said:
He's entitled to a holiday while the opportunity is there I think.
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No chance who does he think he is

GET RID 🌬
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #488
wingy said:
He's entitled to a holiday while the opportunity is there I think.
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As long as he doesn't come back with a nasty virus.......
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #489
Sky Blue Harry H said:
As long as he doesn't come back with a nasty virus.......
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Remember, back in the day when you'd worry about picking up an STD on holiday, not something that might kill your whole family.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 11, 2020
  • #490
Tell him to get to a beach quick on their north coast currently there are more sailing vessels crossing to Blighty than there were going the other way D-Day
 
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