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As for ACL ... the profit they make is not benefitting the club. If ACL was owned by SBS&L I would be happy and the present 'situaton' would never have emerged.

No - the point is it shouldn't matter to the fans who owns the ground. But it does matter to the owners of the club (whoever that is) - it makes a huge difference in their ability to raise funds, be in control of income streams and gives freedom to add flexible terms between club and stadium.

If a new stadium is build we should at least pressure sisu to keep ownership within the SBS&L umbrella ... but I would imagine that is their plan anyway. I see no problem in having a seperate prop-co but it makes no sense to have it outside the group.

Maybe she did make that call?

How did I defend 'their utter lies and bullshit'?

The forum operates totally autonomous. The persons may be paid by the club but they will also have signed NDA's. On top of that they are not making any decisions on buying any land - that is purely up to JS/TF. So again - it would be pointless to question the persons at the meeting over the FOI...

Erh ... what?

I would agree if 'sisu' were there, but they weren't. As Shmmeee clearly reported the forum is independent.

What answer would you expect? That question should be directed to Fisher or other persons within the club.

We will get that or more for Christie.

Have sisu/otium/fisher/whoever even said they had applied for planning permission? I would think that before sending a formal application you would have a series of meetings with the council.

Sisu will never change our name - the OP is using a straw man to discredit sisu. It really shouldn't be necessary to invent stuff, it's not like there's a shortage of real ammunition.

... and the scaremongering continues. Tomorrow it will be a 'known fact' that sisu are planning on changeing the clubs name and crest. It's odd how most never blieve what sisu say - like 'we're here for the long term' or 'the club is not for sale' or 'we won't sell any player unless well above...

Luckily we don't have people here calling fellow fans 'scabs' ...

Though we thought that we could never lose ....

There was something in the air that night.

He didn't say 'freehold' did he? He said stadium.

How can it be a lie? An opinion more likely.

Lol - sisu's turn to hint at dodgy book keeping.

If ACL is doing far better without the club and all the customers it brought around every other week, then they should help finance the new stadium to make sure the club doesn't come back to disrupt their improved business case.