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Yeah, no issue with 18 either. If they’re good enough to land the job then why not. Apprentices are a different case though as they’ll be being trained, course costs covered etc

Parking the increase to one side, the important thing for me is removing the separate 21-24 year old band. For lower paid jobs there shouldn’t be a discrepancy whether you are 21 or 40....in actual fact there might well be a fair few where you’d happily pay a younger person more (I know you’re...

Fair play to her, although I have to admit it’s uncomfortable viewing (I read recently she has aspergers which whilst making me feel a sense of pride for her, also makes me feel putting her on a platform to debate such a significant issue isn’t quite right). She has certainly shone a brighter...

I’d be shocked if something hadn’t happened but to what level, it’s impossible to tell. The timing is just wrong. If it was an issue, it could/should’ve been raised a long time ago (London mayor, foreign secretary appointment) or at the very least during the leadership campaign when it could...

We’ll find out this/next week I guess ! As I said before, offer to give UK (or at least NI) the ability to veto changes in EU trade law during the backstop period ? Take a view on this hybrid solution (mixture of tech solution and NI remaining under same agri arrangement) ie accepting a...

If Brexit has happened Farage is less of an issue. Brexit party will still get a proportion of the votes but nowhere near as much as if the GE happens pre Brexit. The last thing we want is a GE with a Tory/Brexit party pact. Maybe something else for people to consider if they have to vote for...

Agreed. I’m not necessarily talking about No Deal being massive leverage and doesn’t mean that the EU will do any deal which will weaken the wider union. However, let’s be honest, nearly all EU countries will want a deal done deep down. The impact of a No Deal will have a negative impact on most...

A lot of people like their local MP though and/or will never veer from their chosen political party. Could be a shake up coming though ! I’ve got to admit I’ve been so disappointed by a majority of MPs of all sides (that’s putting it politely !)

Cheers mate. To be fair there’s plenty of decent contributors on here and I’ve learned a lot. We all struggle to sometimes see the other side of the argument (including me !), however, with how divided the country is it’s even more important that we all at least try (as long as it’s a...

Fair point !!! I do believe that he’s trying to get a deal though and he’s trying to force the EU into believing we might still just leave anyway. If the EU believe we definitely won’t, why offer anything new at all (unless they are as sick of this as me/us !). extending gives them a stronger...

If he doesn’t know his numbers then we are all fucked (check his background) It’s an honest response on cost of No Deal anyone giving a number good or bad is a bullshitter as there is no way of telling Ps agree that Johnson would’ve quite liked Mays deal. I believe most did deep down barring...

I honestly view it a different way mate. He needs to be able to see if he can get an agreement with the EU, I understand from reports legal text will be submitted this week. It will be obvious if he’s not tried and I will gladly hold my hands up if he hasn’t. Talk of trying to get force him to...

Hit the nail on the head. The actual support of the team (maybe partly due to the way we are playing) is a lot better. It’s got to help the team and nobody can tell me there is no correlation between so many late goals this season and the support the team are getting. I was as pissed of with...

As in to ‘force through No Deal’ ? Do you really believe that, many don’t, including me. I’ve then explained that even if that had been his plan (which I don’t think it is), the steps taken make it difficult/impossible thereby the proroguing would be irrelevant.

Slightly more dramatic than the reality ! Due to the recently passed law and the time available between the EU summit and 31 Oct, I’m not convinced the proroguing wouldve done much other than avoid some of the noise (which is why I think it was a waste of political capital - very little to gain...

Yeah, well remembered ! Not sure but it’s not been mentioned since. If that was included (and the government is bound by the outcome of any final WA vote) then avoiding No Deal would still be in the hands of the MPs, therefore, no need to force the extension ? As I say the forced extension...

Spot on SBD ! I’ve always thought the same, No Deals needed to be on the table as much for getting MPs to pull their fingers out and make a decision (extension is not a decision !) as trying to squeeze something out of the EU. By all account Johnson will be putting legal text regarding backstop...

To be fair though SBD, a lot of these risks could all be removed by agreeing a/the withdrawal agreement which Parliament has had three opportunities to do already. I’m finding most that are arguing vehemently against ‘No Deal’ (most MPs) actually just want to stop Brexit. Im not saying you are...

Fair play Tony, we don’t agree a lot on this thread but I think we are of a similar mindset here....just get something done and move forward (even though I believe it would be anti democratic, Id even accept another in/out referendum if it guaranteed we could do this !) Another extension/second...

One other thing....thinking back we have already scored some great goals this season ! (I just hope those simpler missed chances don’t come back to haunt us !). Playing as good football as I’ve seen in a long while though, probably since that half a season under Mowbray.