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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If there’s a will of course there’s a way. Regarding the point on border control, as I’ve said I don’t doubt that we as a country have been lax out of choice. I don’t know how much is true about the Blair migration conspiracy (ie wanting to change the make up of the electorate) but either way...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But as I say, most have some form of work. I take the point though (and as I alluded to earlier) we haven’t properly controlled our borders for years
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A lot worse. I wasn’t suggesting for a minute it hasn’t. I was just highlighting a semblance of good news for once (surely you can give me that !) It will be interesting to see where the pound goes IF a deal is done though and some of the uncertainty is removed
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I agree BSB, as I’ve said some element of control over immigration is required. Let’s be honest I’m not sure if any government has ever had the will to address it properly. There are many dynamics at play though, the need for cheaper labour to help support aging population, need for certain...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That was last week. The economic figures today helped today (remember there’s still a lot of noise about Johnson wriggling out of the blocking of no deal - can’t see it myself though)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’d read something similar yesterday. As he’s not got a majority anyway he doesn’t need to be as concerned about the DUP support Still not sure it gets through.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m might be wrong but do the non EU migration numbers include a significant proportion of students ? Also I think I have mentioned on here before the current EU powers are limited and I’m guessing are a legal nightmare to implement as from memory it relates to the individual ‘contributing to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I haven’t suggested it’s the only issue and am fully aware of the house builders/developers hoarding land (I think there’s been talk of bringing in laws of having to build on development land within a sensible period which would be worth exploring), however, 42% is still a lot of people and the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Ps not been much (if any !) good news lately so positive that July economic figures were far more positive than expected. Pound is finally going a little bit in the right direction as well....makes a change !
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I Like it or not, it’s about the only ‘leverage’ we have though Fernando. Obviously not the amount that is truly owed (never seen the actual number) but there is an additional amount that is up for discussion and I’m sure would cause some pain/effect if it wasn’t paid. As I’ve said before, I...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bit of a narrow view BSB ! I agree though that if the Tories want to stay relevant they need to do more to secure the young vote. You’re correct it isn’t just about tuition fees bribe, it’s about hope and owning your own property. Two things the tories ‘should’ be able to address for them...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Who’s the frothing quitter though sick boy ? If you mean Johnson, whatever people want to call him (and I don’t disagree with some of the stuff), at least he is trying every which way to finalise the Brexit situation once and for all. I can’t say I agree with all of his methods but as someone...
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    Jeremy corbyn

    Whatever happens, nobody can say politics is boring !! I thought Johnson was out of options but the threat of ignoring the law (and the fact that Macron and possibly others in the EU don’t see the benefit in another extension - unless they believe it will lead to remain) might just be enough to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If it’s true that there is no intention of pursuing a deal with the EU I will be as disgusted as the next man/woman. I would take what Rudd says or does with a pinch of salt though (as with most MPs). I was shocked she even agreed to take a post in Johnsons cabinet (as I was with her return to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It’s a bit of a stitch up. Interesting docufilm, the usual trump stuff (we all know he’s a dangerous weirdo) but a couple of things about Clinton and Obama that don’t reflect well on them/democrats (the picking of Clinton over Saunders being the major one)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Have you seen Fahrenheit 11/9 ? Basically indicating that Saunders won all counties in West Virginia primary yet the state ‘picked’ Hillary ?! I don’t totally get how it works in the US but wonder if this happened on other states.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No political bias in that statement Fernando So labour are trustworthy on brexit ? Election - we will respect the referendum and take us out of the single market and CU (as it was) WA proposal - whilst it gives us everything we want, it will be a blind Brexit and we have to remain in a...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I haven’t seen much gloating and goading. Most people I know on both sides just want it done and for the country to come out of it in decent shape (either way) Ps snowflake comment did make me smile to be fair !!!
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That’s the spirit Clint !
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Let’s be honest, they’ve fucked a lot of their traditional support in the north. They are relying on battling it out with Lib Dem’s in the south and winning who will love Thornberrys non committal nonsense as they know she will ultimately push for remain (tories/Johnson are now equally as fucked...
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