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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    For the good of the country ?!! I do take the point that May should’ve tried to build a consensus. As shown from the alternative options voting though I’m not sure how successful that would’ve been. Both main parties campaigned on leaving the single market and the customs union (as it was) so...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Did I say all ?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yep, all the Tories/DUPs fault ! It’s like banging my head against a brick wall on this site. The labour MP moderates could’ve/would’ve gladly waived through Mays deal, which by common consensus was a reasonable compromise (if only the the length of the backstop could be resolved it’s as good...
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    Jeremy corbyn

    I meant that whilst everyone can point the finger at ERG (me being one), those labour MPs representing strong leave constituencies will also (rightly) shoulder some of the blame if Brexit doesn’t take place or if No Deal happens (unlikely now) They had the chance to vote through something that...
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    Jeremy corbyn

    Enough didn’t and nor did the DUP. Yet only a handful of labour voted even though many represented leave constituencies ?!!! May tried to deliver a fair (if imperfect) compromise. Labour wanted a GE.
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    Jeremy corbyn

    Come on Ian of course they did. May called the election as she knew due to the divisions in the party inn brexit she needed a stronger majority (that worked out well didn’t it !!!) But don’t be so blinkered to not accept what Corbyn/Labour have done since
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    Jeremy corbyn

    I’m aware of the numbers but my point remains the same. As we all know brexit appears not to be party based. I agree that the Tories and in particular the ERG have to shoulder a fair bit of the blame but at least the ERG were sticking to their (bizarre) ideological principles on the subject...
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    Jeremy corbyn

    Rubbish Tony. I’ve said all along that the ERG are ideological idiots, however, Corbyn politicised this issue, the WA was sufficient to tick most of labours boxes. He wanted an election (which is his call) but they’ve got to shoulder part of the blame. The irony as we all know is he finally got...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    But everyone was saying preparing for No deal was wasting money and we should rule it out anyway ?! Let’s be honest other than revoking article 50 or giving a second ref, nothing would’ve sufficed for some If we’d started to prepare two years ago like we should’ve, this wouldn’t have been...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bridges and walls...these politicians must have backers/friends in construction ;)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Very interesting post and a lot of it I agree with. One point I don’t fully accept is regarding education and political standing. People from all walks of life vote in various ways for different reasons. For example some educated and potentially wealthy can vote left as they genuinely believe in...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not really, it’s the one the EU gave us
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It is an interesting article although possibly a little unfair. It’s suggesting at the end that Johnson has reconsidered ‘no deal’, which isnt true. Two things, firstly, Parliament have scuppered his ability to pursue this option (at least for now). Secondly, I’ve said all along that I don’t...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not happened yet ;)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Might have to. I wonder if labour would whip to vote down a revised WA though ? If they do, still no Brexit and impasse remains
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    To be fair the conservatives (and unionist party) do by and large, care about the union. Not sure there’s much love lost with DUP though
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Correct, keeping the DUP happy isn’t currently an issue as he doesn’t have a majority anyway. Might not be such a wise move if there’s another hung Parliament though !!!
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That was ridiculous. Watching the BBC doc on Brexit and Barniers teams reaction....not our country’s finest moment ! Why wouldn’t you just have squared any wording with the DUP first? It’s like the WA though. It should have been put to Parliament before being finalised (If it needed their...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah, saw that as well. Doesn’t feel quite right to me to be honest so I hope it’s not true. It’s a strange one though as apparently a lot in NI and Ireland would be happy with that solution....just not the DUP (understandably) I think it has wider issues for the union though and Sturgeon will...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Which one sick boy ?
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