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Sounds like a load of bollocks from Breitbart or UKIP. 33k for Mandelson is peanuts. No way would he be selling his soul for so little money. Do you think he would back leaving if somebody offered to cover him losing ( which I don’t believe he would) the 30000? Just Brexit crap from the Express.

There are over 700 lords. Which ones work for the EU?

What is the problem? Leavers say that the EU is undemocratic and that’s one reason why we are leaving... Actually the EU is more democratic than Britain as you point out. Either change Britain to PR and representative Senat, or drop the democracy and transparency arguments for leaving.

Lords defeats government for the 15th time to back EU eco-standards after Brexit Another attempt to cherry pick thwarted by the Lords. It seems the Tories are trying to lower environmental standards as well.

Because we are not absorbing the Charter.

He is going soon. 2 countries voted against Juncker and over 200 MEPs. But, he won. It’s democracy, get over it. 26 countries and 400 MEPs think he is doing, or that he was capable of doing a good job. Maybe if more people took an interest in the European elections, and better candidates...

I know no one putting out anti UK views on here. That is Daily Mail talk. Being for the status quo where we were one of the leading economies and had a say in European affairs is very pro British. Anti British is making racism more acceptable by blaming migrants for e.g. the motorways being...

That is not a law. It is hypocrisy. Juncker is a person not a law and his term comes to an end in about 2,5 years. There is no point in leaving just because you don’t like Juncker’s hypocrisy.

I posted a link which explains that we were absorbing EU laws. You said you were against absorbing the Charter. That is cherrypicking. That is the truth, but you don’t seem to understand what is happenening.

You are one of the loudest on here. I haven’t looked for negatives. I just pointed out that, if, we are not significantly better off, then the whole thing is waste of time and has divided the country for years unnecessarily.

Yes, obviously. That is agreed. We cannot just drop all laws from 40 years of membership in a short space of time. We have to first take on most of them, and then drop or alter any we don’t agree with. Funny that the first to go is the one protecting the rights of people like you and me. Which...

You are cherry picking. You are saying we absorb EU law into our law, but reject something covering the rights of people without power or wealth.

Something debated, researched and passed by 28 countries obviously. Far more ideas and input. If we want, we could always add to it. I don’t trust people who want to reject existing rights.

We can be worse off without crashing and burning, and we could be same as before, but as long as we are not significantly better off after all this division and uncertainty, then the whole exercise has been a waste of time and has damaged and divided the country for years to come unnecessarily.

Yes, it is the same as the leavers who want to drop out of the Eurovision because they believe the EU loathes us and EU countries will never vote for our song. The EU Charter would be ok if we rubbed out EU and called it „The Great British Charter of Fundamental Rights“. Then they would say we...

Why? Why not keep the EU Charter and if we want more protections, just add to it. If you reject something that was good enough for 28 countries, then you have to start the whole process and debate again with no guarantee of obtaining what we already have.

I agree that the referendum has created a joke situation.

Why scrap something just for the sake of it. We will absorb loads of EU laws and trading regulations. Why reject the Charter?

Don’t know, but ours doesn’t ( SPD). Schultz wants to strengthen the EU Parliament and he is possibly the lead candidate in the European elections next year for the SPD.

Astute keeps pointing out people who are wealthy and stand to gain a lot by leaving. I am more worried about the vast majority who have no financial or political clout being betrayed by populists. Has happened before in history.