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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No I didn’t. I said it is not a major market.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Brexit costs each UK household £900, Bank of England governor Mark Carney says
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All relative as I said at the beginning. Not the most important market in the world. Good if you like lamb though :-)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Barnier is negotiating Brexit. You mean Juncker or the whole EU who are sticking to the 4 principles which include FOM. That’s what everyone signed up to and is not up for discussion. You cannot take EU citizens‘ rights from them. You can still reform the parliament, the commission, the council...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    30 million sheep. Lamb and wool.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    11500 miles may give you a clue.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, it is a positive for the EU because there are 28 countries involved with 500m people. The amount of trade with the bloc is more than just 3% and the potential is far greater than for just one country. The EU is not desperately knocking on everyone‘s door for a trade deal, so it more of an...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU needs reform. It must adapt. Not at any price though. The EU didn’t just come about. It goes back to the first deals on coal and steel signed between countries that had fought against each other twice in the first half of the last century. A major step towards peaceful cooperation which...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They? Who are they? Them and us. Always them and us nowadays. Who pushed the them and us? NF, BNP, Britain First? For Britain, Nigel Farage. Now you speak the same language. Shows how the country has changed over the last couple of years. They... in this case... seems to be Arab refugees. Why...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, we could increase the 3% share of NZ exports to us and maybe send things 11500 miles to them. I think staying in the EU who are doing a deal with NZ anyway sounds like a much better bet.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    3% of their exports come to the uk according to the article. It’s 11500 miles away. Good, but relatively insignificant.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Things are not looking good in countries where populists are taking power. The USA is experiencing a massive attack on it’s democracy from a group of liars and an „influence for sale“ swamp. Nazis hacking into Austria. The government taking power from the judiciary in Poland. Urban crushing the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, strange that. The very rich see benefits in leaving. Is that the same rich and elite that common man stuck two fingers up to at the referendum? Or was it the capitalist club EU? Or socialists in the EUSSR? Getting confused as to who leavers are actually against... the very rich? Capitalists...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A small percentage of Lords, some of whom are pro Brexit.
  15. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Bit like Astute‘s views. Voted remain. Propagates leave. Claims to be neutral. Whatever happens he can rightly claim to have predicted it.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No, I am trying to work out why Farage will get his pension, but others won’t continue to receive money from the EU. What money is this? When and why does it stop?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So you don’t know how many, or if any are voting against Brexit for the EU because of money? What payments and to whom will stop if we leave? Farage will get his pension whatever happens. Who will lose out personally? Our freedom of information laws. Says it all. I thought we were ruled by the...
  18. M

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Actually they want to destroy the EU and create a socialist super state in it’s place. Many leavers think that the EU is already a super state. Shows how screwed up leave is. You can want to leave because it is a right wing super state or because it is a left wing super state.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes, ask Farage about gravy training it in the EU. Point is that for these people 33000 is really peanuts. Not worth selling your soul for. Anyway, who are the Lords that have sold their souls to the EU? Are they a majority or a significant number?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are after what is best for us. Keeping us as close to the EU as possible. They ( a majority) don’t give a toss about blue passports and Juncker’s drinking habits. They ( a majority ) don’t have to pander to people who think that the EU is a super state with it’s own army.
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