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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In the article Tim Congdon says: „The Council of Ministers is - in practice - the EU's most important arena of decision-taking. But Germany, despite having the largest population and by far the most substantial economy, with an output almost twice that of Italy, has been no more powerful on...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It as Japan says“ Mr Tsuruoka told the Observer: “The reason that many of those companies have come is that this is the best gateway to Europe. “If that is in danger, if that is no longer sustainable, of course they will have to look at what they will have to do best. “I don't think the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So what have we gained by leaving?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Nothing. Just that the USA has published a list of points that it wants in negotiations with other countries. Common knowledge.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We are all losers through Brexit. I have never claimed otherwise. I see no reason for being pleased about that.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They are us. We are a member of the club. It already looks as if the USA is going to ask us to lower standards for a trade deal with them. I don’t see us being in a stronger position alone.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    FOM is not negotiable. There is already a 3 month limit which we could at least try and enforce. Benefits tourism, tax dodging and corruption all have to fought. The UK could have gone big there. That is in everyone’s interest. The EU is arguably more likely to succeed without the UK.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What snide remarks?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They have made that a precondition, so it is at least a possibility. They have a population of 1,3 billion including a sizable ( in relation to us ) and growing middle class with spending power. They are set to overtake us in GDP shortly. We are out on our own and are a medium sized country...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You seem know things about treaties that no one here does. They were all negotiated and ratified, which would contradict your conspiracy theory. 27 governments didn’t come to the same conclusion as yourself. 1% of UK GDP is not the end of the world in itself. That would not be the biggest loss...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You are totally confused. We will negotiate and we will have to accept some things. Our partners will have to accept something’s we want. That is the whole point of negotiations. That means we are not free to do anything we want to if we want to trade with people. Simple. I know NATO is not the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have said there will be negotiations and there will be an agreement. If we are not in the CU. Not a difficult prediction is it?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. He was being metaphorical. The message is India will not be told what to do as it was under the Empire. Quite easy to understand for most people.
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    Oh Jeremy Corbyn

    An extremely simplistic point of view.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Telling them what? That 28 countries accepted the EU treaties for the good of Germany? You’re on planet Brexit up there with Farage, BoJo and the lesser likes of Grendel.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    What racist term was that then?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Which is what I keep saying. There will be no Empire 2.0 where we set the rules.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Leaving the EU doesn’t give us the complete freedom to as you seem to suppose. That is a myth. Any deals we make will be based on negotiation, not us telling other countries on what terms they will be trading with us. There will also be an arbitration procedure which we will have to agree to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Any deal will be conditional on more visas. India said that. India also said they don’t want Empire 2.0. Ask them what they mean by that. I interpret that as meaning they won’t let us tell them the terms of our future relationship as we did in the past.
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