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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The pounds hardly changed recently (pretty much what it was a week ago). I agree that the EU won’t agree to significant changes but I’d happily have a tenner on them moving on the backstop mechanism if Boris gets through the next few days. That will be sufficient, in conjunction with the only...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    thanks DJR...my deleted post copied and pasted from your reply ! Still don’t quite get it. Parliament has had three years to impress its will on the government, agree to the WA or between themselves agree alternative proposals. Do you know ‘the plan’ of the alliance (before...
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    Just bloody deleted my post accidentally !!! (Was trying to edit)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Dictator is a little OTT ! Ps also what are these ‘stop the coup’ marches ?! As he’s already PM how is he seizing power from the government ?! Unless it’s relating to the other meaning of ‘coup’ - an instance of successfully achieving something difficult ??
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Exactly. But this is what I was saying yesterday Sick Boy (and for those that genuinely want to avoid No Deal it’s possibly good news). What Johnson has done (if he survives the coming days) is put pressure on people to accept a repackaged WA as they might be left with a clear choice No deal or...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I’m not twisting it. It’s a remain paper. They are pinning their hopes on Corbyn (as caretaker) to at least delay Brexit. Ps It says ‘....since ousting Johnson in time to affect the Brexit process may also require the creation of caretaker government government under Labours Jeremy corbyn’ ie...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t understand the point Tony. FT are remain, I’m guessing they now feel the best way of delaying/stopping Brexit is by Corbyn being appointed as caretaker PM.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They obviously view Remain in the short term over political allegiance. They mention ‘caretaker’ as they think Corbyn will stop/delay Brexit. As I said yesterday I don’t agree with the methods but this will bring it to a ahead. WTF will another delay do (if the EU grants one)...we’ve already...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The FT is heavily Remain
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Whilst Farage won’t go away if Johnsons already delivered brexit, the Brexit party support will drop significantly (most normal people just want a sensible deal). If he hasn't by the time of the next GE, he’s done
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    ps Unless he delivers No deal and the country turns to shit !
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    See my post above about the current actions possibly helping it get through Parliament. Why would he get brought down at next GE ? Most in the country just want this over and done with. If he delivers Brexit then he has more chance of remaining in power.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So could not getting Brexit done by 31 Oct (as it will see a continued rise of the brexit party). As I mentioned above I think there is more to this decision than first appears
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    Snap. Hadn’t seen C4 but just suggested something similar (above)
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I hadn’t realised until just hearing now that once conference season is taken into account we are talking 4-5 days of Parliament sitting which will be missed. As I said earlier I don’t like the mechanism being used but ultimately this will bring matters to a head once and for all. It could lead...
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    Not many things on this thread make me laugh but that did !!!
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    We’ll soon find out Fernando. The fact is if everyone believes there’s no more negotiation and everyone (apart from the extreme/ERG) is desperate to avoid a No Deal, why didn’t MPs vote through the WA then ???
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    They didn’t think they had the numbers yesterday. They might have them today. I think Johnson knows the EU are refusing to budge in discussions because of potential parliamentary manoeuvres which will delay leaving (or potentially end up revoking article 50). As I said I think this step is to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I think Grendel is correct though. It should be a no confidence vote (not some dodgy unprecedented parliamentary manoeuvre). I think this will flush out positions ie No confidence vote. Either a government of national unity (without corbyn), an election or a stronger position for Johnson to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Not sure that’s who dreamt up ‘the project’
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