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Have you seen Fahrenheit 11/9 ? Basically indicating that Saunders won all counties in West Virginia primary yet the state ‘picked’ Hillary ?! I don’t totally get how it works in the US but wonder if this happened on other states.

No political bias in that statement Fernando So labour are trustworthy on brexit ? Election - we will respect the referendum and take us out of the single market and CU (as it was) WA proposal - whilst it gives us everything we want, it will be a blind Brexit and we have to remain in a...

I haven’t seen much gloating and goading. Most people I know on both sides just want it done and for the country to come out of it in decent shape (either way) Ps snowflake comment did make me smile to be fair !!!

That’s the spirit Clint !

Let’s be honest, they’ve fucked a lot of their traditional support in the north. They are relying on battling it out with Lib Dem’s in the south and winning who will love Thornberrys non committal nonsense as they know she will ultimately push for remain (tories/Johnson are now equally as fucked...

Also people need to be careful what they wish for....if there is an extension and then an election the Tories are unlikely to win (Brexit party takes too much of their vote). This could lead to a worse case scenario of a Tories/Brexit party pact....which could lead to an eventual no deal !

From memory (it seems like an age in brexit world) I’m sure the always impartial Bercow said the WA couldn’t be brought back without substantial changes ?! Then there was that weird ‘error’ the Kinnock amendment (I think) that was highlighted by someone on here the other day. Not sure if that...

That’s the weird and wonderful world of Brexit for you ! You’ve got plenty of MPs influencing our negotiation stance that are desperate to remain....not the ideal combination !

I heard that, totally unacceptable I might be naive but I am pretty sure Johnson wants a deal. They should have provided detailed outline alternative arrangements for everyone to see. I think they do exist in relation to trade (people is trickier)

Not ignoring you Sick boy... I’m not condoning some of the language used (or some of the idiot comments by our negotiating team) but the sentiment, in basic terms is correct ie no deal/no trade deal wouldn’t only be damaging to us but also major industries on the continent so why wouldn’t they...

You know what I mean though Ian.

Thanks Tony....it’s no doubt a thrilling read !!! I had a quick skim through (I was going to make a joke about David Davies but won’t) and from what I can see I stand by my original points The EU members refused to discuss anything until we triggered article 50. Yet it states in the attached...

To be fair he voted the third time, which if he was an ideological ‘no deal’ brexiteer he wouldn’t have. He’s brought matters to a (messy) head but he’s not to blame for Brexit not being delivered

Labour are in this as much as the Tories BSB, don’t let your political persuasion blind you to that. Their refusal to agree to the WA was political. It gave them everything they wanted yet they rejected it saying it was a ‘blind Brexit’, however, during the transition period they...

I agree that there have been plenty of comments that haven’t helped, however, much has been made of the trade deal comment and the fact is, it should be straight forward We already have the same quality and standards as the EU and we import significantly more than we export so why should it be...

I’m aware that the triggering of article 50 and timetable is in the constitution. I’m not aware that the sequencing of events detailed above is in there ? Happy to be proved wrong

That’s rubbish Tony. He’s not done things the way I would have but we were given two previous extensions and fuck all has happened until Johnson came in. The facts as I see it are: MPs voted for article 50 meaning we left with or without a deal in two years. Limited ‘no deal’ planning...

Hardly Ian. The EU dictated the sequencing and timing of everything. They wouldn’t even discuss us leaving until we triggered article 50 (which started the clock ticking) They then put in place the fact that NI border backstop and divorce bill would need to be agreed before discussing a trade...

It’s disappointing the amount of apparent pleasure people appear to be getting from what is the biggest political mess of our lifetimes. Most normal people I know (from both sides of the argument) just want this done and out the way, not just kicked into the long grass (again) which is what has...

So those that support corbyn and his stance to get an election from the mess we are in (whipping to vote against the WA that would’ve avoided all these No Deal arguments) what are your thoughts now ?!! If he chooses to avoid a GE.....as I’ve said all along, politicising a matter as important...