Do you want to discuss boring politics? (25 Viewers)

[PVA]

And this current Labour government over the past 2 years have done wonders haven’t they?

apart from the lazy dole scroungers no normal working class person is any better off probably worse

So it’s a perfect example to use

The Tories attempt at dealing with covid involved:

Breaking their own laws
Giving their pals billions of pounds in dodgy contracts
Losing billions of pounds to fraud

But Andy Burnham made petrol prices show on Google maps so I guess they're all as bad as each other

 

[Legionairre]

The Tories attempt at dealing with covid involved:

Breaking their own laws
Giving their pals billions of pounds in dodgy contracts
Losing billions of pounds to fraud

But Andy Burnham made petrol prices show on Google maps so I guess they're all as bad as each other

Look at the wider picture

Labour been in over 2 years and what they have actually achieved so far?

everyone saying how the adults are now in control and if anything just as inept as the previous administration

they are all the same but to defend Labour over the past 2 years is laughable

Burnham talks a good game but he’s just as inept as the others

They’re no decent politicians around and that’s the issue

Look at the greens today. They might aswell be called the Islam party now

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The treasury is making more now from Fuel duty than they would be at say £1.40 per litre. They are taking a higher amount in and could issue a temporary cut until things ease.
Maybe is being used to cover the the teachers latest pay increase that they hadn't accounted for correctly.

Maybe and who’s begrudge them a decent pay rise

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Look at the wider picture

Labour been in over 2 years and what they have actually achieved so far?

everyone saying how the adults are now in control and if anything just as inept as the previous administration

they are all the same but to defend Labour over the past 2 years is laughable

Burnham talks a good game but he’s just as inept as the others

They’re no decent politicians around and that’s the issue

Look at the greens today. They might aswell be called the Islam party now

Genuinely nothing??? Ok

 

[PVA]

Look at the wider picture

Labour been in over 2 years and what they have actually achieved so far?

everyone saying how the adults are now in control and if anything just as inept as the previous administration

they are all the same but to defend Labour over the past 2 years is laughable

Burnham talks a good game but he’s just as inept as the others

They’re no decent politicians around and that’s the issue

Look at the greens today. They might aswell be called the Islam party now

NHS waiting lists down/more
Immigration down
Boat crossings down

We had 14 years of the country being utterly trashed. To even compare Labour to the previous shower is laughable.

Honestly this stupid country is ungovernable and deserves everything it gets when the ability to view petrol prices is placed on a level with the covid fraud

Let's give the Tories another go! Or worse, Reform. See where we are in 4 years then

 

[mmttww]

Labour's biggest issue since being in government has been the fixation on dancing to Reform's tune from the minute they were in office. Just get on with delivering your manifesto, communicate what you've done as it gets done in a way that people can actually engage with in 2026. If they can't get out of that trap under Burnham then I dread to think what kind of sh*tshow we'll end up with after.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Maybe and who’s begrudge them a decent pay rise

More a point that the minister promised the rise without prior agreement with the treasury Pete.
The current government acting like amateurs and chancers not a group in control of £billions.

 

[Marty]

NHS waiting lists down/more
Immigration down
Boat crossings down

We had 14 years of the country being utterly trashed. To even compare Labour to the previous shower is laughable.

Honestly this stupid country is ungovernable and deserves everything it gets when the ability to view petrol prices is placed on a level with the covid fraud

Let's give the Tories another go! Or worse, Reform. See where we are in 4 years then

Immigration down is a bad thing no? If diversity is our greatest strength then more random foreigners = more diversity = more strength.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Immigration down is a bad thing no? If diversity is our greatest strength then more random foreigners = more diversity = more strength.

I thought immigration was the root cause of why we have so many lazy bastards and the cost of living crisis is getting worse so surely its a good thing?

 

[Grendel]

Going well

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-waiting-list-at-its-worst-since-2025-new-figures-reveal-despite-record-levels-of-care-13596455

 

[Grendel]

NHS waiting lists down/more
Immigration down
Boat crossings down

We had 14 years of the country being utterly trashed. To even compare Labour to the previous shower is laughable.

Honestly this stupid country is ungovernable and deserves everything it gets when the ability to view petrol prices is placed on a level with the covid fraud

Let's give the Tories another go! Or worse, Reform. See where we are in 4 years then

Waiting lists at the nhs are going up

I guess they can look at the fuel app while they are hanging round A and E for 13 hours

 

[SBAndy]

Going well

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-waiting-list-at-its-worst-since-2025-new-figures-reveal-despite-record-levels-of-care-13596455

Obviously not a good thing but “worst since 2025” is sensationalist nonsense.

 

[Grendel]

Obviously not a good thing but “worst since 2025” is sensationalist nonsense.

same as boat crossings is going down when it sky rocketed in 2025

 

[Grendel]

I mean it’s great

'Ominous signs' of winter pressures as NHS waiting list grows

NHS winter pressures appear to be building already, with rises in waiting times for planned surgery.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[PVA]

same as boat crossings is going down when it sky rocketed in 2025

They're lower now than when Labour took office and lowest since 2021

 

[LarryGrayson]

Obviously not a good thing but “worst since 2025” is sensationalist nonsense.

The trend of treating more people is a good thing too. Imagine how bad it would be if they hadn't improved that.

 

[PVA]

Real mystery why the NHS is in the state it's in.

Can't quite put my finger on it.

 

[Grendel]

This is something that’s going up

ANALYSIS: Britain’s national debt has risen by over £186 billion since Labour came into power

For immediate release * The UK’s national debt has increased by over £186 billion between July 2024 and July 2025. The national debt now sits at £2.71 trillion, up from £2.53 trillion at the end of last July. * This increase represents an £6,510 increase in debt per

taxpayersalliance.com

 

[PVA]

This is something that’s going up

ANALYSIS: Britain’s national debt has risen by over £186 billion since Labour came into power

For immediate release * The UK’s national debt has increased by over £186 billion between July 2024 and July 2025. The national debt now sits at £2.71 trillion, up from £2.53 trillion at the end of last July. * This increase represents an £6,510 increase in debt per

taxpayersalliance.com

Now do it as a % of GDP...

 

[Grendel]

Another thing growing

UK unemployment rate hits near five-year high as wage growth slows

The Office for National Statistics said the figures reflected "weak hiring activity", with unemployment among 16 to 24-years-olds now at 16.1%.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[wingy]

It will be more this year thanks to Trump and his antic's I expect.

 

[Legionairre]

Genuinely nothing??? Ok

List them then please

If Labour were doing such a great job why did Starmer get the boot?

 

[Legionairre]

NHS waiting lists down/more
Immigration down
Boat crossings down

We had 14 years of the country being utterly trashed. To even compare Labour to the previous shower is laughable.

Honestly this stupid country is ungovernable and deserves everything it gets when the ability to view petrol prices is placed on a level with the covid fraud

Let's give the Tories another go! Or worse, Reform. See where we are in 4 years then

So in 27 months

Waiting lists have dropped. Yet again this was driven high by Covid so unsurprising really

Boat crossings are coming back up now. Higher number under Burnham in 60 days than Starmer first 60 days

You blame issues in the Middle East for issues. same said for issues with Covid

Tories came into power December 2019 3 months later Covid. Half the the years in charge Covid was the issue

No one has a crystal ball but who knows where we would be if Covid didn’t happen

 

[PVA]

Tories came into power December 2019 3 months later Covid. Half the the years in charge Covid was the issue

Lol

 

[LarryGrayson]

Tories came into power December 2019

Errrm.

 

[SBAndy]

So in 27 months

Waiting lists have dropped. Yet again this was driven high by Covid so unsurprising really

Boat crossings are coming back up now. Higher number under Burnham in 60 days than Starmer first 60 days

You blame issues in the Middle East for issues. same said for issues with Covid

Tories came into power December 2019 3 months later Covid. Half the the years in charge Covid was the issue

No one has a crystal ball but who knows where we would be if Covid didn’t happen

Not even the tasty kind of bait.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Not even the tasty kind of bait.

Its GIMOC

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Going well

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-waiting-list-at-its-worst-since-2025-new-figures-reveal-despite-record-levels-of-care-13596455

It’s v easy to reduce NHS waiting lists by just removing people off waiting lists.

Something you’d see in the Soviet Union to cook the books.

Another thing growing

UK unemployment rate hits near five-year high as wage growth slows

The Office for National Statistics said the figures reflected "weak hiring activity", with unemployment among 16 to 24-years-olds now at 16.1%.

www.bbc.co.uk

Royal Mail, HSBC, Amazon and even the BBC all announcing job losses this week.

Nothing to do with tax rises of course…

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

List them then please

If Labour were doing such a great job why did Starmer get the boot?

Ok allowing unions to ballot on line

 

[Captain Dart]

They're lower now than when Labour took office and lowest since 2021

The fact is they should be nearly zero and legal immigration should be no more than emigration.

The situation now is that the population goes up and more land is taken for houses while supporting infrastructure is hardly being built, people born here find it harder and harder to get jobs and training to go into their chosen profession. In the meantime it is plain to see the existing infrastructure is falling into disrepair and the MSM are deployed to present a rosey image of the UK on the world stage that is far from the truth.

 

[skybluetony176]

The fact is they should be nearly zero

It’s not a fact because unless you practically close your borders and become the sort of country that no one wants to live, say like North Korea, then it’s never going to happen. We’ll always have illegal immigrants purely because at the very least visa overstay and luckily for us we are the sort of country where people want to stay and live.

The only actual fact is that for the first time in a long time the numbers are moving in the right direction.

 

[chiefdave]

The government commissioned independent review into mental health, autism and ADHD has, like others before it, concluded that conditions aren't being over diagnosed.

Numbers have increased due to increased largely due to awareness of the conditions existing.

The report once again highlights the poor level of support available, particularly for younger people, leading to poor long term outcomes. Recommends earlier intervention and strengthening of services whilst stating that this can not be done purely by the NHS. Its needs the community, schools, employers etc to step up.

Without explicitly stating it the report strongly hints that the social contract has been broken for younger generations and is a major contributor. Essentially a generation that feel they have no future and no hope.

Interestingly it says that support and treatment should not be reliant on a diagnosis that can take months, or years, to obtain. Also warns that we are in danger of over diagnosis in the immediate future as people turn to unregulated private providers due to long wait times with the NHS. Again doesn't explicitly say it but hints that paying for a diagnosis gives you the result you want.

The question now is will this be the wake up call needed to take action or as its yet another report that gives the 'wrong' answer will it be filed away and forgotten about.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The government commissioned independent review into mental health, autism and ADHD has, like others before it, concluded that conditions aren't being over diagnosed.

Numbers have increased due to increased largely due to awareness of the conditions existing.

The report once again highlights the poor level of support available, particularly for younger people, leading to poor long term outcomes. Recommends earlier intervention and strengthening of services whilst stating that this can not be done purely by the NHS. Its needs the community, schools, employers etc to step up.

Without explicitly stating it the report strongly hints that the social contract has been broken for younger generations and is a major contributor. Essentially a generation that feel they have no future and no hope.

Interestingly it says that support and treatment should not be reliant on a diagnosis that can take months, or years, to obtain. Also warns that we are in danger of over diagnosis in the immediate future as people turn to unregulated private providers due to long wait times with the NHS. Again doesn't explicitly say it but hints that paying for a diagnosis gives you the result you want.

The question now is will this be the wake up call needed to take action or as its yet another report that gives the 'wrong' answer will it be filed away and forgotten about.

In the prison I volunteer at they are treated symptoamtically not diagnostically and the civil service expects the same

 

[chiefdave]

In the prison I volunteer at they are treated symptoamtically not diagnostically and the civil service expects the same

Not read through the whole thing but I think this is where there going. Deal in symptoms, and solutions for those symptoms, rather than just diagnosis so you can stick a label on them.

They seem to be saying kids that get a diagnosis go on to have worse outcomes by pretty much every metric. Essentially being labelled early on and then cast aside.

 

[Legionairre]

It’s v easy to reduce NHS waiting lists by just removing people off waiting lists.

Something you’d see in the Soviet Union to cook the books.


Royal Mail, HSBC, Amazon and even the BBC all announcing job losses this week.

Nothing to do with tax rises of course…

Labour have well and truly messed the economy up. More billionaires leaving being replaced by Young men on boats who will offer the country nothing

Another tax increase is inevitable over the next 12 months