fernandopartridge
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It's not often we agree but agreed.
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It's not often we agree but agreed.
fatso
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Careful now
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Careful now
Grendel
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Any thoughts with Dianne?
www.bbc.co.uk
Obvious Labour leadership wants me out, Diane Abbott tells BBC - BBC News
MP Diane Abbott has been suspended by the Labour Party pending an investigation.
www.bbc.co.uk
Ian1779
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Nuskyblue
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I've just had another sprog, I personally think the cost of them is blown out of proportion.
And you're right, they are awesome!
Nursery fees are pretty extortionate though!
Currently paying the best part of a grand every month for my two to go to nursery, and that's only 3 days a week
Eldest starts school in September, looking forward to that saving!
shmmeee
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Nursery fees are pretty extortionate though!
Currently paying the best part of a grand every month for my two to go to nursery, and that's only 3 days a week
Eldest starts school in September, looking forward to that saving!
They basically cost what one person makes in my experience making them entirely pointless aside from the fact you want to socialise your kid so they’ve got you by the balls.
Said before I’d rather we front loaded the cash and support at early years.
I did see something that we pay more because we go to school earlier though and places with older pre school kids subsidise the younger ones because they can be bigger class sizes.
I also think you can’t have an economy which tells everyone to leave their family support systems and move to London if they want a career and not replace it with childcare.
shmmeee
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Ironically it’s probably these guys:
But they’ve also got their fair share of nutters.
The selection process for Polticians has a lot to answer for. It basically selects for weirdness and obsession.
Nuskyblue
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Possibly, not there yet with this one (just gone 3 months).Nursery fees are pretty extortionate though!
Currently paying the best part of a grand every month for my two to go to nursery, and that's only 3 days a week
Eldest starts school in September, looking forward to that saving!
My missus said that it wasn't to bad (30 hours free now vs 15 for our first).
SBAndy
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Our kid is 13mths and started nursery about 6 weeks ago. With the free childcare we get the nursery cost for 3 half-days is £78/mth. I was fearing it’d be a lot more.
shmmeee
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How does that work out if it’s 30hrs free and you’re only doing (what’s a half day like 4hrs?) 12hrs?
Asking cos we’re starting to try next month and it’s been ten years since my current youngest was born.
chiefdave
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What is mental about this article is that the numbers haven't gone down because we've started processing people faster, or because there's less people coming into the country.
They've come down because they are now put in places that are cheaper which raises the very obvious question of why the fuck did the last government not do this?
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They've come down because they are now put in places that are cheaper which raises the very obvious question of why the fuck did the last government not do this?
UK's asylum hotel bill down 30%, government says
The Home Office's annual accounts show £2.1bn was spent on hotel accommodation in the year to March 2025.
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shmmeee
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This was my concern when the initial bill was so watered down already, the concessions being made to the Lords on the planning bill basically destroy it entirely in terms of its aims.
This is a good article on the morality of such choices.
This is a good article on the morality of such choices.
Ccfcisparks
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Care for the elderly is ridiculously expensive privately. Both my Grandparents have dementia, one more further on than the other, and if we were to put them in private care it would be £1k a week each.
SBAndy
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Clearly I was half-asleep. It’s actually 2 half-day sessions, sorry. I believe it’s 15hrs free childcare from 9mths to 2yrs then increases to 30. May be wrong on that but we are only eligible for 15hrs. However the free hours are only supplied in term-time, meaning you have to pay out-of-term. What our nursery does (and I’d imagine most do) is spread the cost so we ‘pay’ all year round but it remains constant rather than getting slapped for £300-400 per month in the summer holidays.
The bill I’ve quoted also includes the consumables charge and food charge which, of course, are not covered by free childcare.
chiefdave
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I have never known anything as totally not fit for purpose as care for the elderly. Every part of the system is a complete and utter shambles and the only thing anyone in a position of power seems interested in is how to push more of the cost onto the person in care, or more realistically their family.
If ever you wanted an argument against privatisation this is it, every part of the system designed to extract the most money possible from you with little thought to the person who actually needs care.
For someone relatively healthy you've got 'retirement living', places like Earsdon Village, that have eye watering fees for doing the bare minimum, then make you sell the place back to them at way below market rate when you leave and charge a hefty exit fee on top.
But that's nothing compared to needing to go into somewhere for care reasons. You'll have meeting after meeting with the NHS, care board, council etc etc etc. Never see the same person twice so there's zero continuity of care. You have meetings with different people about exactly the same thing that leave you just wondering why you can't have one meeting and then they share the information.
Everything is designed around finding a way to not pay for the care and once they've found a way to justify that you never hear from anyone again despite them insisting the reason you needed so many meetings was because it was important they check that the person in question is getting the appropriate care.
They will happily take every penny you have and then watch you sink further and further into debt. My mum is of the generation where the wife didn't go to work so she gets a bare minimum pension. My Dad gets a work pension as is common for his generation. When he dies that pension passes to my mum as she will have nothing else to live on. But while my Dad is in care they take 100% of his pension, leaving her without enough to live on, then send a 4 figure bill every month to top it up which obviously I'm paying but I don't earn enough to be paying out 4 figures a month on top of everything else.
Ccfcisparks
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Its fairly interesting to me and quite new. But I've found out if you have above 23.5k in savings cash you arent entitled to any free care? That is utterly absurd if true. That will be burnt through like no mans business.
chiefdave
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I get the need to means test, although I doubt anyone with millions in the bank is going in the sort of care homes you and I are dealing with, but the limit is way to low. You can burn through that in a matter of months.
Bad enough burning through your kids inheritance but in a lot of cases there's a partner who is reliant on that money. My Dad always took care of the finances, as I imagine was common, so everything is in his name and as far as the authorities are concerned thats money they can take.
The only thing they can't touch is the house as my mum is still there but even that is a bizarre rule. My mum now can't move because if she sells up and downsizes they will grab that money as well!
Sky Blue Pete
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Grendel
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Great response - when Farage is ahead in the polls and Labour are falling apart internally do you think he really cares?
It was relating to a Parish Mayor in Scarborough by the way. Pretty desperate and actually shows Labour are rattled.
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Sky Blue Pete
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Oh I’m certain Farage will
Hoodwink the nation once again and lead us into ever more disaster but people will think it’s better because they see less brown people
Hoodwink the nation once again and lead us into ever more disaster but people will think it’s better because they see less brown people
Grendel
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At least we won’t be an island of strangers anymore
Ccfcisparks
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No just an island of racists
Grendel
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It does seem rather a strange message from Labour as it was about the Parish Mayor taking a 600% pay rise.
It’s Starmer who used Enoch Powell type language
Ccfcisparks
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Grendel
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He won’t get a majority - his party has been too successful too early
Ccfcisparks
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I agree. They have spunked their load at the wrong time.
Sky Blue Pete
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Oh I’m sure we will
tisza
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silly game to play. There'll be a million clips out there of Labour ministers/mps saying daft things that can be spun. Is there going to be 3/4 years of misleading tiktoks etc leading into the next election.
