Gathering for Tommy / Discontent

[Nick]

So many buzz words to whip up fear.

"Police are braced"
"Biggest collection of police since"

 

[clint van damme]

But your happy to have discussions hijacked by people on the opposite end of the scale, anyone it seems who don't fit certain peoples narratives on this forum are descriptions you've just mentioned.

Considering some of the stuff you've posted in the last few days you probably don't want to go down the road of discussing certain peoples narratives.

 

[Nick]

Looks like the c**t behind the "list" is going to be fetched out of bed soon by the plod

I thought we were looking at sources now? That guy made up that Muslims were being attacked with acid didn't he?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Looks like the c**t behind the "list" is going to be fetched out of bed soon by the plod

See.

1 bloke 'compiled a list'

We're all blokes, and we can't fry 30 sausages at the same time let alone 1 bloke organising the biggest night of rioting ever seen in this country

I reckon their plonkers been pulled

 

[clint van damme]

I've got a feeling that all of this '100 planned protests' this evening is a load of shite

All feels a bit fake

Be hilarious if someone's managed to troll the entire countries coppers with a message

It's not hilarious when one of your kids is in work yards away from one of the so called protest sites

 

[Nick]

Then why are we talking about Muslim extremism at exactly the same time as there are attacks on mosques going on?

This is a genuine question but how many mosques have been attacked?

I know there was one in Southport.

(I'm not saying they haven't, just haven't seen much about them actually being attacked in all of this)

 

[Nick]

It's not hilarious when one of your kids is in work yards away from one of the so called protest sites

To be fair, the police and media have been whipping up so much.

Hopefully they are ok though!

 

[wingy]

Then why are we talking about Muslim extremism at exactly the same time as there are attacks on mosques going on?

That's why I didn't like Gynsthetonic's, post when introducing Dutch policies into the conversation the other night conflation of the subject for me!

 

[David O'Day]

See.

1 bloke 'compiled a list'

We're all blokes, and we can't fry 30 sausages at the same time let alone 1 bloke organising the biggest night of rioting ever seen in this country

I reckon their plonkers been pulled

the problem is the list gets shared and some people act on it

started the false rumours of a far right march in brum on monday and see how that turned out

that's the issue, people believe it and act on it

 

[Ring Of Steel]

But your happy to have discussions hijacked by people on the opposite end of the scale, anyone it seems who don't fit certain peoples narratives on this forum are descriptions you've just mentioned.

I don’t really get your point.

My narrative is that immigration is clearly a big issue, but I don’t like racism and nasty stereotypes based on skin colour and ethnicity, things which a few people on here have been exhibiting. I think that ‘narrative’ stinks.

 

[Nick]

Sky news are scraping the barrel.

An 18 year old has been charged for throwing a brick at police. It showed the CCTV and it was the shittest throw ever seen and missed them by a mile.

Course he should be arrested and charged but surely there's attempted murders from lighting fires to be headline news?

 

[Nick]

the problem is the list gets shared and some people act on it

started the false rumours of a far right march in brum on monday and see how that turned out

that's the issue, people believe it and act on it

Yeah like I said the media have been pushing it and the police have been getting everybody scared.

Why the fuck is Specsavers at the ricoh closing early, for example?

If it's a list made up by one person?

 

[Saddlebrains]

It's not hilarious when one of your kids is in work yards away from one of the so called protest sites

Questions asked of the employers then surely

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I've got a feeling that all of this '100 planned protests' this evening is a load of shite

All feels a bit fake

Be hilarious if someone's managed to troll the entire countries coppers with a message

not sure it was a load of shite initially, but the realisation that hundreds are getting arrested, with their mugshots in the papers & charges incoming has likely cooled their enthusiasm somewhat.

 

[Nick]

Questions asked of the employers then surely

I'd say more the media and police who have tried their best to get people into a frenzy.

Obviously of course I hope that's all it is.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

seems their sheffield "protest" was a bust, hope fully they all end up like this

if the numbers there were reversed, I wonder whether it would be as peaceful. I would humbly suggest not.

 

[clint van damme]

Questions asked of the employers then surely

Not sure what you mean. If you mean should they have shut, I'd probably agree.
But I apportion far more blame to the arseholes behind the disorder that's been going on personally, or whoever it is that's shit stirring.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Na it would be a bit funny come on.

6 thousand coppers expecting huge kick offs just stood about twiddling thier thumbs because someone's on the wind up

Yeah, amazing. Until they don’t take future ones seriously and someone gets hurt or worse, or the police currently positioned there can’t deal with other emergencies tonight. Not forgetting the small businesses who’ve closed early and lost money or the kids afraid to go out on the street or down the park tonight

I’ve seen funnier things on social media.

I’d do hope it is an anti climax though. Media and social media are a shambles at the moment

 

[Saddlebrains]

Not sure what you mean. If you mean should they have shut, I'd probably agree.
But I apportion far more blame to the arseholes behind the disorder that's been going on personally, or whoever it is that's shit stirring.

The employer shouldn't be open, it's stupid they are

And agreed on the shit stirring

 

[clint van damme]

I'd say more the media and police who have tried their best to get people into a frenzy.

Obviously of course I hope that's all it is.

There's no way the police were behind the list of 30 sites, someone released that to cause trouble.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Yeah, amazing. Until they don’t take future ones seriously and someone gets hurt or worse, or the police currently positioned there can’t deal with other emergencies tonight. Not forgetting the small businesses who’ve closed early and lost money or the kids afraid to go out on the street or down the park tonight

I’ve seen funnier things on social media.

I’d do hope it is an anti climax though.

Nothing will happen

Well, not nothing, of course there will be places like Rotherham having the ruck, but 100 protests is bullshit.

No way can someone coordinate all that, it's tough enough trying to get blokes to pay stag do deposits

 

[Nick]

There's no way the police were behind the list of 30 sites, someone released that to cause trouble.

No but I could write a list of 30 sites now. Are they going to be all over the media every 5 minutes with interviews with police chiefs scaring everybody?

 

[wingy]

Yeah like I said the media have been pushing it and the police have been getting everybody scared.

Why the fuck is Specsavers at the ricoh closing early, for example?

If it's a list made up by one person?

So, they're out for something what do you think it is?Is it reactionary to either lambast or aid the Gov't or to aid their opposition ? Don't know tbh?

 

[JAM See]

There's no way the police were behind the list of 30 sites, someone released that to cause trouble.

The filth are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

If nothing happens, they're overreacting.

If it goes off, they're complacent.

I think they've made the right decision personally.

 

[rob9872]

Fuck off, fuck off, fuck off!!

 

[Nick]

As for the government saying about other countries "bots". Let's not forget that out own government plays that game too.

 

[Nick]

"it looks like it's going to be a challenging night for the police".

Surely the police have actual intelligence? Let's face it. If they want they can read everything and anything they want if they really want to.

For something of this scale, they can't be going off a list on telegram.

The media are desperate for it to kick off.

 

[David O'Day]

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I don’t really get your point.

My narrative is that immigration is clearly a big issue, but I don’t like racism and nasty stereotypes based on skin colour and ethnicity, things which a few people on here have been exhibiting. I think that ‘narrative’ stinks.

Fundamentally the problems are not of skin colour, although at the moment anyone of any colour is fair game it appears.
The realm problem is one of religeon .

 

[Nuskyblue]

I don't think so. Not according to Sky anyway.

Fair enough, it was way up there forever to the point that it seemed to loose relevance.

 

[torchomatic]

Now, I agree with that.

 

[Nuskyblue]

He did. I said earlier on, I was right with the film but it was Woody not Jessie.

Hadn't seen that!

I'd have said it was the first film so we'd both have been off.

 

[MalcSB]

Just been in Bedworth, everybody going about their business as normal.

A few protests against dentists though.

At last something people can get their teeth in to.

 

[Nuskyblue]

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Bit off from Sky tarring all football fans with the same brush "many of them align themselves with the far-right".

Classism or maybe stereotyping and part of the issue of you ask me.

 

[Nick]

Genuinely, how many mosques have been attacked other than Southport? I know hotels have which is targeted but I'm just trying to see how much is misinformation to get Muslims fired up.