Supporters forum - Thursday 12th April

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Seriously has anyone ever placed a bet based on the back of a shirt sponsor? Or for that matter ever bought anything due to shirt sponsor.
I bet alcohol sales plummeted after they were dropped.
If gambler's want to bet they'll bet.
Is Doug going to close the Casino also.

I changed my betting company to Boyle when they became sponsors from WH but gave up as I am shit at betting.

I ended my Vodaphone contract due to their support of wasps.

Neither of these made a big difference but I felt better at the time.

 

[ccfc1234]

Adult season tickets for the 21/22 season £299 Ricoh return package, 22/23 £345, 23/24 £460? £20 per match?

That would be a terrible price. Many ST holders who cant go to evening games will do the maths and realise it's more like an average of £26 a game and consider pay as you go.

If Doug gets this wrong I am going to start to loose faith in him. As posted by someone the other day Blackburn, Huddersfield and a few others have frozen or reduced prices.

Increase the premium seats 10% and keep Everything else the same.

 

[Grendel]

That would be a terrible price. Many ST holders who cant go to evening games will do the maths and realise it's more like an average of £26 a game and consider pay as you go.

If Doug gets this wrong I am going to start to loose faith in him. As posted by someone the other day Blackburn, Huddersfield and a few others have frozen or reduced prices.

Increase the premium seats 10% and keep Everything else the same.

I would in fairness point out season tickets were £450 for centre blocks in 2007

 

[Nuskyblue]

I find it weird that the tickets are a flat rate, if they bumped the price up for the centre blocks and kept the corners the same rate and reduced behind the goals would be OK I think.

I also think its mad(but good) that kids get a season ticket for £25. My takeaway from the comments was that this is what they'd be looking at.

It's all academic, the best way to generate revenue is buy low and sell high. Hopefully they have their ducks in a row and have a plan for the Vic moneys if we don't get promoted.

 

[pusbccfc]

Maybe he's suggesting scrapping JSB season tickets.

2000+ is a lot to give away for free. I wonder how many would buy their kid a season ticket if it cost £30 (on top of the JSB price).

Alternatively, he could be looking at zoning the tickets. For me this has to be the way forward.

You could do a very cheap ticket in the least popular blocks. Possibly as low as £250 and use that as a marketing figure. Limit it to two blocks and only 2000 seats.

Then go as high as £450 for West Stand and the blocks in the middle. Arguably, many would still pay that and if they couldn't afford it, have the option to move.

Then rest of the ground at a similar price to this season.

Therefore, you have options for everyone, including new fans encouraged by the very cheap, limited STs.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Btw season tickets were cited as being important for cash flow over the summer by SISU more than revenue per se, I thought that those days were behind us?

It’s still true isn’t it?

 

[Boosh]

Maybe he's suggesting scrapping JSB season tickets.

2000+ is a lot to give away for free. I wonder how many would buy their kid a season ticket if it cost £30 (on top of the JSB price).

Alternatively, he could be looking at zoning the tickets. For me this has to be the way forward.

You could do a very cheap ticket in the least popular blocks. Possibly as low as £250 and use that as a marketing figure. Limit it to two blocks and only 2000 seats.

Then go as high as £450 for West Stand and the blocks in the middle. Arguably, many would still pay that and if they couldn't afford it, have the option to move.

Then rest of the ground at a similar price to this season.

Therefore, you have options for everyone, including new fans encouraged by the very cheap, limited STs.

I never sit it my season ticket seat, I’ll just buy a cheap one and sit somewhere with a better view

 

[Nuskyblue]

It’s still true isn’t it?

Must be, the TV money is a pittance and we have sold no one of note for a while.

 

[Nuskyblue]

I never sit it my season ticket seat, I’ll just buy a cheap one and sit somewhere with a better view

Thats a shout, it would only work on near sellouts to have it zoned. Kiddies prices will be going up and those minted OAPs will be taking a hit

 

[Donato's Truncheon]

I never sit it my season ticket seat, I’ll just buy a cheap one and sit somewhere with a better view

Presumably somewhere close to the exit of the Gents to save you having to use the entrance.

 

[Frostie]

I’m amazed people are going on about safe standing and not looking at an underlying message it’s down to supporters to increase any transfer budget by funding it themselves

People got carried away thinking we're going to start chucking millions around on transfer fees even though both Doug & Mark Robins have said all along this wouldn't be the case.

Robins back in January:
"What I would say is that people think there’s a new ownership that everything is going to be fantastic and that we have got loads of money now and are going to spend it all,” he said. “That’s not going to happen. What we have got is a bit more stability and control and we will continue to do things incrementally, as we have done before."

 

[Deleted member 7943]

People got carried away thinking we're going to start chucking millions around on transfer fees even though both Doug & Mark Robins have said all along this wouldn't be the case.

Robins back in January:
"What I would say is that people think there’s a new ownership that everything is going to be fantastic and that we have got loads of money now and are going to spend it all,” he said. “That’s not going to happen. What we have got is a bit more stability and control and we will continue to do things incrementally, as we have done before."

Added to the fact that ticket revenue , be it ST or matchday , is a vital form of income for all clubs in this league to fund a competitive side.

 

[Grendel]

It’s still true isn’t it?

Not a good thing is it?

 

[ccfctommy]

Let's see what happens before we have a meltdown.

 

[Saddlebrains]

Maybe he's suggesting scrapping JSB season tickets.

2000+ is a lot to give away for free. I wonder how many would buy their kid a season ticket if it cost £30 (on top of the JSB price).

Alternatively, he could be looking at zoning the tickets. For me this has to be the way forward.

You could do a very cheap ticket in the least popular blocks. Possibly as low as £250 and use that as a marketing figure. Limit it to two blocks and only 2000 seats.

Then go as high as £450 for West Stand and the blocks in the middle. Arguably, many would still pay that and if they couldn't afford it, have the option to move.

Then rest of the ground at a similar price to this season.

Therefore, you have options for everyone, including new fans encouraged by the very cheap, limited STs.

If JSB ST's were scrapped i wouldnt be renewing.

I think there would be a fair few the same. Kids are literally our next generation, look at the amount of kids nowadays wandering round in Cov kits, the amount of kids at games etc. A world away from the depths of 6 years ago when my son was the only boy in his primary school who was a proud cov fan.

If they whack the prices up for kids to anywhere near 3 figures it will go down like a cup of cold sick

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Not a good thing is it?

Depends how it’s sold and whether the community can get behind it.

 

[MalcSB]

That would be a terrible price. Many ST holders who cant go to evening games will do the maths and realise it's more like an average of £26 a game and consider pay as you go.

If Doug gets this wrong I am going to start to loose faith in him. As posted by someone the other day Blackburn, Huddersfield and a few others have frozen or reduced prices.

Increase the premium seats 10% and keep Everything else the same.

What’s the thinking behind that, comrade?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Depends how it’s sold and whether the community can get behind it.

Probably not very well if fans again back the club in record numbers and again the manager has to work on peanuts

 

[Deleted member 2490]

I get some of what Doug is saying such as no gambling sponsor and he’ll invest in infrastructure but club needs to be self sufficient on playing side.

However getting more concerned at the delay in CBS deal and hints of significant price rises.

I accept season tickets have been cheap since we returned although they needed to be after playing away to help rebuild the fan base.

Could accept mine going up £50 and even JSB rising to £50 but people with 2-3 kids are going to struggle with that especially if both parents go.

Rather than tell us to back the club again let’s see Doug put his hand in his pocket make some statement signings in the summer and if we look like we’re really going for it bang the prices up the season after.

Hard for the club to play hardball on price with 12k free seats each week.

 

[pusbccfc]

If JSB ST's were scrapped i wouldnt be renewing.

I think there would be a fair few the same. Kids are literally our next generation, look at the amount of kids nowadays wandering round in Cov kits, the amount of kids at games etc. A world away from the depths of 6 years ago when my son was the only boy in his primary school who was a proud cov fan.

If they whack the prices up for kids to anywhere near 3 figures it will go down like a cup of cold sick

Totally agree.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I never sit it my season ticket seat, I’ll just buy a cheap one and sit somewhere with a better view

Shouldn't be too difficult considering you sit on your own.

 

[pusbccfc]

I would in fairness point out season tickets were £450 for centre blocks in 2007

Found this from the first season of the stadium

 

[pusbccfc]

When did we change the free JSB ticket to under 13? From what I can see we used to charge up to £70 for JSB's over 7 for years

 

[alexccfc99]

Few things to take from that

Stadium deal (or lack of it) is worrying and stinks of Ashley being a bellend

I couldn’t grumble at a slight increase on my ST - The £15 per game I paid this season is excellent value and probably not representative of the quality of football I have watched at times

To give over 3000 JSB season tickets away for next to nothing whilst admirable is absolutely mad from a business point of view, there can’t be many clubs at our level who do that, if any

From the moment he took over the club it was never expected that King was going to throw millions about on new players and we would mostly remain a self sufficient club, things would just be better ran than under the previous owners - So I don’t get why people are kicking up a fuss about that now

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

It’s still a bit of a mystery why Doug King (and his backers, whoever they are) acquired the club.
It’s a very conservative business plan with probably more risk than opportunity.
You still get the feeling there is something else going on around this investment…

 

[chiefdave]

Stadium deal (or lack of it) is worrying and stinks of Ashley being a bellend

Especially when you add in the other thing that was slipped into the notes, that the current deal has us back to getting fuck all of the revenue our being there generates

 

[Nick]

Remember when everyone wanked about Doug and how we wouldn't need to rely so much on making our own reven........ oh wait

Who said that?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It’s still a bit of a mystery why Doug King (and his backers, whoever they are) acquired the club.
It’s a very conservative business plan with probably more risk than opportunity.
You still get the feeling there is something else going on around this investment…

Interestingly they said that safe standing wouldn't contribute to any loss in capacity due to the steepness of the stands. Considering the hill you were dying in in the 'South Stand' thread, do you have any comments for Doug?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Few things to take from that

Stadium deal (or lack of it) is worrying and stinks of Ashley being a bellend

I couldn’t grumble at a slight increase on my ST - The £15 per game I paid this season is excellent value and probably not representative of the quality of football I have watched at times

To give over 3000 JSB season tickets away for next to nothing whilst admirable is absolutely mad from a business point of view, there can’t be many clubs at our level who do that, if any

From the moment he took over the club it was never expected that King was going to throw millions about on new players and we would mostly remain a self sufficient club, things would just be better ran than under the previous owners - So I don’t get why people are kicking up a fuss about that now

I really don't understand why so many people are cucking for a price increase. If the board read this forum they'd almost feel inclined to lift the prices based on fan feedback alone.

I don't have a season ticket, and live abroad, but looking in from the outside this all looks ridiculous.

 

[alexccfc99]

I really don't understand why so many people are cucking for a price increase. If the board read this forum they'd almost feel inclined to lift the prices based on fan feedback alone.

I don't have a season ticket, and live abroad, but looking in from the outside this all looks ridiculous.

I’m not - But I would understand if there was an increase as we currently get good value for money, almost too good to be true

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The cheap junior tickets are to not only get the adults in who have to take them, but also to capture those games early so they buy a ticket themselves later rather than just watch Man Utd on the telly.

 

[bawtryneal]

That would be a terrible price. Many ST holders who cant go to evening games will do the maths and realise it's more like an average of £26 a game and consider pay as you go.

If Doug gets this wrong I am going to start to loose faith in him. As posted by someone the other day Blackburn, Huddersfield and a few others have frozen or reduced prices.

Increase the premium seats 10% and keep Everything else the same.

Whilst I appreciate your frustration how do you think investment in the playing squad will be funded.
Assume you would like us to have a competitive team.

 

[shmmeee]

That stinks of a massive price hike. I can see it backfiring

If he puts a playoff competing squad together we’ll all lap it up like the dirty whores we are.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Few things to take from that

Stadium deal (or lack of it) is worrying and stinks of Ashley being a bellend

I couldn’t grumble at a slight increase on my ST - The £15 per game I paid this season is excellent value and probably not representative of the quality of football I have watched at times

To give over 3000 JSB season tickets away for next to nothing whilst admirable is absolutely mad from a business point of view, there can’t be many clubs at our level who do that, if any

From the moment he took over the club it was never expected that King was going to throw millions about on new players and we would mostly remain a self sufficient club, things would just be better ran than under the previous owners - So I don’t get why people are kicking up a fuss about that now

With regard to the JSB tickets, presumably they are accompanied by adults paying full price! We need to tread carefully here, as you can't put a value on capturing your future support early, and until we reach a point that we can sell out the ground, 'giving away' tickets to that demographic makes perfect sense.

Otherwise I think a £400 season ticket is a fair early bird price, rising up no higher than £450 thereafter. I'm also fine with concession rates for students and young adults remaining in place, but am not so sure about over 60's, many of whom are probably more than able to pay a full cost ticket.

 

[Saddlebrains]

This is it.

People / the club saying that the 2500 JSB £25 ST's are too cheap, you only get that alongside a full paying adult

If they decided to put them up to say £100 for the season, along with the rise of the rumoured £50 for an adult ST, that would be me paying £200 more. Bearing in mind the kids cant make night games (with their mum in the week) and we dont go then it doesnt become financially worth it for me so i would pay per game

I'm certain i wouldn't be the only one