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Agree, you didn't that sense of community and 'can-do' spirit under Labour.
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Agree, you didn't that sense of community and 'can-do' spirit under Labour.
Another personal Brexit story, after I mentioned yesterday it's cost our company £000,000s
Ordered some important parts from Sweden a few weeks back, they've been stuck in Denmark for 10 days and counting going through customs checks. No idea when they'll be released.
Still, blue passports eh!
Ordered some important parts from Sweden a few weeks back, they've been stuck in Denmark for 10 days and counting going through customs checks. No idea when they'll be released.
Still, blue passports eh!
More likely to be a foodbank recently, however things are becoming promising, more opportunities opening up .
Fairly busy month gone and Potential longer-term scheme's being discussed, just hope they come to fruition six months on from first discussion.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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As it would almost certainly mean we didn't need them, yes of course I would!
Most food banks aren't paid for by govt but by volunteers and charities, so they only exist when and where there is a need for them. So if we have foodbanks, it means there's people who can't afford to feed themselves properly.
Grendel
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What countries don’t have them?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Because people didn't need to make sure so many people could afford to feed themselves. Plenty more homeless now too. Is that because there was more community spirit under Labour taking these people in? Or just there weren't quite as many of them?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I was talking about the ideal situation. If there was no foodbanks there would be no food poverty. Sadly we don't live in that situation and there will always be at least some need for them regardless.
Fact the number of them here has shot up in the last few years is not something to crow about. it's something to be ashamed of.
shmmeee
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Do you think there’s lots of countries that Dreamer thinks are perfect?
Evo1883
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It was around 2005 wasn't it? My old man was there when it shut , can't be arsed to phone and ask
Crikey thought it was early mid 80's.
First production over there was around 74. Followed by redundancies strikes etc,think there was a French plant too.
Poland joined EU 2004.
"Massey-Ferguson: Tractors - Graces Guide" Massey-Ferguson: Tractors - Graces Guide.
First production over there was around 74. Followed by redundancies strikes etc,think there was a French plant too.
Poland joined EU 2004.
"Massey-Ferguson: Tractors - Graces Guide" Massey-Ferguson: Tractors - Graces Guide.
clint van damme
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Wouldn't it be great if we could be better than the others and made sure everyone in the worlds 6th biggest economy could afford to feed themselves as used to happen?
Grendel
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Well I’m sure most still could but commercial expectations arise and if it’s there people will eat it
Brighton Sky Blue
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Meaning?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Point missed again, probably on purpose given the straw man argument you finished on. It's a stark reality that some help for the needy will be required regardless of how well a country is doing or who is in charge. Even in the best performing places in the world there will be some who will be short of food.
But to have so many foodbanks starting in so many areas in such a short space of time shows a catastrophic failure to enable people to afford their own food either through their wages or social security. It cannot be seen as anything else.
skybluetony176
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The only way this could improve is if they alternated the columns red, white and blue. God save the queen.
#uplifting
#uplifting
Correlation Austerity George followed by Hammond.
Evo1883
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Sadly mate , foodbanks are a huge thing all across Europe and the world really.
We aren't unique
GSTQ 
It's difficult to ascertain the causes of this hardship.
Several events, one outcome more people in need of them.
We had the crash ,we had austerity, we've had the introduction of universal credit which I think has led to reduced income,phasing down of family credit etc.
And finally the current shit.
So the Trussell Trust think the government need to end the need for food banks.
Tory bootlickers think the more foodbanks the better the government is doing.
Hmm, who to believe?
www.trusselltrust.org
www.trusselltrust.org
Tory bootlickers think the more foodbanks the better the government is doing.
Hmm, who to believe?
The State of Hunger - a foundation for a plan to end the need for food banks - The Trussell Trust
By Tom Weekes, Research Manager Yesterday the Trussell Trust released
www.trusselltrust.org
Almost half of people at food banks have money taken by government from benefit payments during economic crisis - The Trussell Trust
The Trussell Trust says 47% of households surveyed at food banks during the summer
www.trusselltrust.org
skybluetony176
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Murder is a problem all around the world. Maybe we should be more accepting of murder too. Really not sure what the point you’re making is. I’m not comparing us to the rest of the world I’m comparing us to us 10-15 years ago and it’s a grotesque stat and a severe measurement of failure.Sadly mate , foodbanks are a huge thing all across Europe and the world really.
We aren't unique
Evo1883
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All I'm saying is your using it as a point to make Britain out to be shit , and whilst it's a valid point and a horrible thing , it's not exclusive to Britain.
Every developed nation in the world is basically failing people
skybluetony176
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A 50-fold increase in food banks in ten years in any country looks shit and in any normal society would be inexcusable. No one is saying it is exclusive to Britain. Still not sure what point you’re making.
Evo1883
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I'm not sure why we are talking foodbanks in the EU thread to be fair ..It's not related , surely its one for the boring politics thread
Grendel
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So the Trussell Trust think the government need to end the need for food banks.
Tory bootlickers think the more foodbanks the better the government is doing.
Hmm, who to believe?
The State of Hunger - a foundation for a plan to end the need for food banks - The Trussell Trust
By Tom Weekes, Research Manager Yesterday the Trussell Trust released
Almost half of people at food banks have money taken by government from benefit payments during economic crisis - The Trussell Trust
The Trussell Trust says 47% of households surveyed at food banks during the summer
So people who have lauded the New Zealand PM like say The Tonester and Chief Dave are Tory bootlickers?
skybluetony176
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If you look at the graph it sort of is. It was starting to plateau prior to 2016 before starting to rise again for some reason.
Grendel
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I'm sure plenty of Poles who live in disgusting conditions to wash cars need foodbanks
Evo1883
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Except the graph shows its been rising since 2012
And 2020 had the pandemic to contend with
skybluetony176
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Yes I’m aware of that.
Evo1883
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The reality is france Spain and Italy continue to have bigger food shortage issues than everybody in Europe.
France have the second biggest problem in the developed world
Frances problem got worse during the pandemic Reliance on food banks grows in France amid COVID-19 fallout
It's not brexit related , all feels a bit like an argument for an argument
France have the second biggest problem in the developed world
Frances problem got worse during the pandemic Reliance on food banks grows in France amid COVID-19 fallout
It's not brexit related , all feels a bit like an argument for an argument
