Clearly this a line in the sand for the rest of the country, who will one by one be dragged into Tier 3
Clearly this a line in the sand for the rest of the country, who will one by one be dragged into Tier 3
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All a punishment because the Tories don’t have the balls to close schools
They turned down more apparently. I quite like Burnham and he’s right to stand up for Manchester, however, he’s been all over the shop over the past few days. The way I read it, he was happy for the whole country to be lockdown down but not for Manchester to go into Tier three and has then subsequently accused the government of manipulating hospital admissions stats to I increase worry/panic (ie suggesting they aren’t that bad) - probably correct ! Which one is it mate ?!
If it’s true that the city’s confirmed cases are decreasing and dependent on hospital capacity (if he’s right and it’s running at similar levels to normal for this time of year) I’d side with Burnham on this....without the bullshit efforts to drag the rest of the country into a lockdown. He can’t have it both ways though
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I'm finding this whole negotiation thing a little bizarre anyway. Either it needs to go into top tier or it doesn't, and fannying around for a week doesn't exactly convey the urgency!
Yeah it’s a bit embarrassing. Who has the authority here?!
Can I just add that them calling Van Tam ‘JVT’ is the height of cringe. We’re handling a pandemic not the next destination for the banter bus
Yeah, no doubt they’ll be increasing everywhere. Its gaging capacity. I think Burnham was indicating there wasn’t an immediate capacity issue (whilst the government was)....if there was as NW says fannying around for a week ‘negotiating’ wasn’t in anyone’s interests. I don’t know who’s right.
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At a wild stab, lots of doom, lots of waffle, little action.
Both right, shouldn't be no negotiation should be a set figure for certain a mount of people, the goverment will be bailing most people out with wages anyway well 60%.
It looked like a well orchestrated hit job on Burnham. Besides that it showed the data reflecting that students and school kids have passed the virus on to the older age groups so admissions now rising in the latter. Students still are the highest new case demographic
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Good that we're stopping them coming into contact with other groups then, eh.
Think it’s getting additional support for businesses (grants etc.) for those that have to close - which should be being provided
So because he turned it down the government are punishing the people of Greater Manchester? Sounds very childish and irresponsible bordering on dictatorship.
It’s everything else they need to close first. Schools should be the last thing to close.
Dont know the detail. Would be surprised if they don’t end up getting the same package as elsewhere (Liverpool etc)
Even still you can't give one place more than another especially if your population is similar.
Why are they even making separate deals? It should be standard support based on the tier surely?
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It's utterly bonkers! Whether you agree with the support or not, is a separate issue to actually doing it!
Agreed, but I get why they are negotiating can't give somewhere with say 300k population the same as somewhere with 5m population.
I was told today that the only reason Liverpool has gone into tier 3 is because the Carillon hospital is still waiting to be finished meaning that Liverpool has missing capacity. Any truth in this?
Surely you arrange a package of measures for each restriction. Bars closed? Furlough for hospitality kicks in. Etc etc.
There seems to be some weird effort to penny pinch and play politics on this issue when the government can do what it wants. Just grow some balls and take some decisions.
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It is, tbf, in response to the criticism that they weren't consulting.
But how do you consult on this? We're closing everything down Andy. Alright.
To be clear, they should be consulting with the local health officuals, and following the science!
I wonder if they extended furlough for another 6 months or so would of been cheaper than negotiating packages for every local council.
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Boris Johnson said:
Covid: Oxford University cases triple on previous week
Almost 70% of positive cases at at the institution are confirmed in the week to 16 October.
www.bbc.co.uk
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How not to run a country at any time let alone in the grip of a pandemic.
Boris has fucked this, a third of the GM seats are tory as well so it's going to be delicious
‘Soz Andy but JVT says the sesh has to come to an end, sending a cheeky 20 mill hope that’s OK Boz’
My mate 5 days in hospital so far certainly no worse so that’s good. Still on oxygen. Update was he was in the gym and swimming the night before. Came on overnight like a truck
my understanding from what I’ve read, gov said you’re going into tier 3 and heres the support packaging similar to Liverpool, AB rejected saying he won’t support unless they get more, gov concerned that without local mayor support lockdown won’t be enforced/adhered to, continued negotiations, negotiations failed.
a load a politics chucked in but think that’s the long and the short of it.