Otis
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Gammon and pineapple.
Take the knee (6 Viewers)
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Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Yes yes yes....unless you can prove otherwise. That's the law . Step this way into the incinerator sir, you won't feel a thing.
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Mucca Mad Boys
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We’re at point now where you’d have to be completely unaware of what’s around you if you haven’t heard of the movement. I guess their manager had a point when he asked ‘how long are we going to do this for?’
If teams want to take a knee, Let them. If one team doesn’t want to, why would it stop another team? Again, we could have done it, and Jobi McAnuff and his team could’ve done it.
I was disappointed the low-resolution post match coverage was dominated about talking about taking the knee. If clubs want to make a difference, they should ramp up their community engagement/programmes. A 20 second knee before KO is a token gesture. Judge clubs on that.
My personal preference is keep politics out of sport.
skybluesam66
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@dubed greAt post
blm imho needs to be broken down between historical and today
historically the whole of white western society was to blame and this only started to end in my lifetime
many of us were children when these prejudices were everywhere and in every day media and entertainment. Parents and grandparents would say things which could get you arrested nowadays (and rightly so).
fortunately we are moving on, but unfortunately too slowly
this is similar to treatment of lbgt, and even men v women
we say we are not prejudiced but why is there not a single gay footballer. It would be like the treatment of black footballers in the 80s. many times I am ashamed of chants by our own supporters confirming this
so 100% black Lives Matter but 100% all lives matter whether or not we look like and conform to the majority or not
think also male v female. Fat v thin. Attractive v less attractive. Etc
however these differences should not be ignored but Celebrated. No discrimination but don’t pretend they are not there. I also disagree with positive discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination however you dress it
I am part foreign as are a few friends. When we call each other we are fine with humour around this
so I disagree with taking the knee. I disagree with promoting someone due to race or sexuality, but I detest anybody who uses any characteristic to physically or mentally disadvantage another human
That’s my opinion the only exception is if you are walking around Birmingham and see someone in a claret and blue top!
blm imho needs to be broken down between historical and today
historically the whole of white western society was to blame and this only started to end in my lifetime
many of us were children when these prejudices were everywhere and in every day media and entertainment. Parents and grandparents would say things which could get you arrested nowadays (and rightly so).
fortunately we are moving on, but unfortunately too slowly
this is similar to treatment of lbgt, and even men v women
we say we are not prejudiced but why is there not a single gay footballer. It would be like the treatment of black footballers in the 80s. many times I am ashamed of chants by our own supporters confirming this
so 100% black Lives Matter but 100% all lives matter whether or not we look like and conform to the majority or not
think also male v female. Fat v thin. Attractive v less attractive. Etc
however these differences should not be ignored but Celebrated. No discrimination but don’t pretend they are not there. I also disagree with positive discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination however you dress it
I am part foreign as are a few friends. When we call each other we are fine with humour around this
so I disagree with taking the knee. I disagree with promoting someone due to race or sexuality, but I detest anybody who uses any characteristic to physically or mentally disadvantage another human
That’s my opinion the only exception is if you are walking around Birmingham and see someone in a claret and blue top!
Otis
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Of course all lives matter. That is not what the Black Lives Matter slogan is all about.
As has been said before, it is perhaps a clumsy choice of wording and Black Lives Matter Too would be a much better way to have gone with it, but it is all about being treated equally and black people simply haven't been and this has been going on for far too long now.
It is just looking for parity.
We know all lives matter.
I thought taking the knee was a wonderful thing, but I feel it has is served its purpose and lost its power now and new campaigns and ways of keeping it in the public eye need to be brought to the table.
As has been said before, it is perhaps a clumsy choice of wording and Black Lives Matter Too would be a much better way to have gone with it, but it is all about being treated equally and black people simply haven't been and this has been going on for far too long now.
It is just looking for parity.
We know all lives matter.
I thought taking the knee was a wonderful thing, but I feel it has is served its purpose and lost its power now and new campaigns and ways of keeping it in the public eye need to be brought to the table.
Sky Blue Pete
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Exactly where I am
Mcfadzean - ref told us
Qpr - how dare you make this a thing we do this this that this that this. If you want to make it a thing ask the fa or the efl to say what should be done
Ccfc - we should do it it’s important I heard qpr said not to
Absolutely brilliant comedy sketch at sky’s expense.
Agree with Otis
Black lives matter too
mrtrench
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Exactly my opinion. I support kick it out or any other initiative aimed at racism that doesn't have covert political motivations.
Houchens Head
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Bring back the Mexican Wave! Show support for the immigrants trying to get into the U.S. 
Houchens Head
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What's a gammon? I only know that it's served with a nice slice of pineapple and chips. What other meaning could it possibly have?
Houchens Head
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Last time I 'took the knee' I was aged about 9 and the priest in front of me had a big smile on his face!
Houchens Head
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They're bringing out a sequel???
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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A gammon is anyone who isn't clued up on everything currently politically correct and actively engaged in pointing the finger at everyone else being to blame for the injustices of the world. They're usually older people apparently who know nothing.
If you voted brexit you're gammon irrespective of your age .
If you think taking the knee has run it's course you most certainly are gammon .
If you go on you tube , houch, and type in "Jonathan pie - woke utopia" he'll give you a guide to what defines those who aren't gammon , and what you're missing out on Your life may change forever.
I think being " woke" means you are learned so you can't possibly be gammon , but it means , in essence, you're a twat.
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Otis
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I'm not clued up on everything currently and I am a vegetarian. What does that make me, a soya chunk?
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Yes, but I think the word ' chunk' may offend certain groups.
Btw soya cartons cheapest in Lidl according to my wife.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I've just asked her and she thinks it's about the same. Tesco is next cheapest. Don't touch Sainsbury's though.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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The term gammon is the antithesis of the term snowflake. But rather than get upset and cry about something seemingly trivial they get upset and rage about it til they go red in the face with rage about something minor but is pink beneath that. As a general rule they tend to get upset with black/gay/gender rights going too far whereas snowflakes are more likely to do so because they don't go far enough.
steve cooper
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I thought gammon was something you ate at the pub if you couldn't afford steak, until I read this thread. I suppose not knowing it's alternative meaning proves I am gammon
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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....but it's all made up anyway .
Otis
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You sure? I'm certain Asda had some in stock when I went in yesterday.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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It certainly sounds like. It means you're happy in your own skin , even if it's gammon flavour.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Only if it's good old UK gammon.
clint van damme
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Only if you're getting incredibly angry, experiencing high blood pressure and turning pink because of it
steve cooper
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With egg on my face
Skybluefaz
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David O'Day
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Nah it's a bollocks statement rushed out to try and back up his clubs awful decision.
History shows us that sport and society and quite happy to forget issues such as racism and happily carry on as normal.
Society needs to be continually prodded and reminded of it's long history of inaction.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Utter bollocks.
The statement is spot on and has more common sense in than anything else I've heard on the matter in the last few days.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Why not look at what else QPR do before castigating them for not doing a meaningless gesture that achieves nothing
David O'Day
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Sorry I forgot having a great community race relations project exempts you from people thinking you are wrong.
We've already established it's not meaningless as you need to keep something in the publics eye or it will just go away from the public debate. No one said taking a knee with every change anything but it a method of saying we are still here you know,
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what taking a knee has done to fight racism.
The statement is spot on. It also shows morons up like you trying to call Les Ferdinand and QPR racist. It actually does more harm than good to the cause.
Terry_dactyl
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Could argue it gets some people thinking and starts a debate...
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