New Labour Leader (2 Viewers)

[Grendel]

Again, what's that got to do with anything? I dont want mcdonnell as labour leader. This was about Jess Phillip's.

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Well I assume you’d be a big advocate of Thatcher who fought against misogyny and was working class and went to a state school?

 

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[stupot07]

I tell you what, I'll just leave you and Fatso to have a tory love in.

You ruin so many threads with your know it all manner and negative argumentative shite.

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[Grendel]

I tell you what, I'll just leave you and Fatso to have a tory love in.

You ruin so many threads with your know it all manner and negative argumentative shite.

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I have suggested practical and workable solutions so labour can recover some credibility - it’s not my fault you will not listen to these

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well I assume you’d be a big advocate of Thatcher who fought against misogyny and was working class and went to a state school?

Is that the same one who said that children were being cheated if they were told that homosexuality was acceptable?

 

[Grendel]

Is that the same one who said that children were being cheated if they were told that homosexuality was acceptable?

Irrelevant as it’s a different era

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Irrelevant as it’s a different era

It's irrelevant because progressive views on homosexuality have got us out of the dark ages on that topic. I guess you'll be letting Corbyn off the hook for anything he did or said in the 80s?

 

[fatso]

66% of Boris's cabinet went to private school (twice Mays), and only 6.5% of people go to private school. Hardly representative of the country we live in. Loads of etonites in leading political roles with a sense of entitlement.


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So what, if there up to the job that's great.
I dont need them to be representative of anything, just do the fucking job!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So what, if there up to the job that's great.
I dont need them to be representative of anything, just do the fucking job!

How did they play holding a referendum without planning for both outcomes, then fucking the negotiations and withdrawal arrangements for 3 years?

 

[fatso]

Old John Mcdonald has said the next leader of the labour party should be a woman!

Surely the next leader should be the best person for the job, regardless of their sex, age, religion race etc.

 

[shmmeee]

Old John Mcdonald has said the next leader of the labour party should be a woman!

Surely the next leader should be the best person for the job, regardless of their sex, age, religion race etc.

It’s positioning. He wants Long-Bailey, same as Kinnock said it because he wants Nandy.

Though to be fair, Starmer aside the best people probably are women.

 

[fatso]

How did they play holding a referendum without planning for both outcomes, then fucking the negotiations and withdrawal arrangements for 3 years?

I think you'll find the delay was caused in part, by opposition parties and renegade mp's doing their best to frustrate the will of the people.

 

[fatso]

It’s positioning. He wants Long-Bailey, same as Kinnock said it because he wants Nandy.

Though to be fair, Starmer aside the best people probably are women.

I think the next leader hasn't been identified by the press yet. (Hopefully)

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think you'll find the delay was caused in part, by opposition parties and renegade mp's doing their best to frustrate the will of the people.

Always someone else's fault eh fatso

 

[fatso]

Always someone else's fault eh fatso

No, just a fact.
Although there's never a shortage of people ready to distort history to fit their own political agenda. Ay BSB

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No, just a fact.
Although there's never a shortage of people ready to distort history to fit their own political agenda. Ay BSB

Yeah see Grendel doing it a few posts up

 

[Grendel]

It's irrelevant because progressive views on homosexuality have got us out of the dark ages on that topic. I guess you'll be letting Corbyn off the hook for anything he did or said in the 80s?

I dont think the supporting of murderers was ever acceptable

 

[fatso]

Looks like Boris is looking into the future of the TV license, God I hope he scraps it!

 

[chiefdave]

renegade mp's doing their best to frustrate the will of the people.

Are you referring to Johnson there?

 

[fatso]

Are you referring to Johnson there?

No, I was talking about Swanson and her mob, and most of labour, and some of the knob heads in the tories.

 

[Grendel]

It's irrelevant because progressive views on homosexuality have got us out of the dark ages on that topic. I guess you'll be letting Corbyn off the hook for anything he did or said in the 80s?

Did you not once laughingly ask what I was like when I was Doms age?

When at university I was Vice chairman of the faculty I was in - it was in Nottingham and the time of the miners strike

I had to once attend some ghastly meeting with communist twerps asking how to support the strikers

Much you the poor chaps horror who was with me I decided to stand up and say I wanted to organise a collection for the police as a defence against the Marxist thugs

It did go well and I was confronted by some cretin in a standard Che Guevara T Shirt swearing at me. There was a black guy with him and I said to him why is he standing by someone who advocated White supremacy, apartheid and was a Nazi

Of course they were very confused and then I attempted to educate them on the racist that was their Cuban hero

Although T Shirt wearer didn’t say it with great articulation he tried to justify it that times were different then

It was my first and last meeting

 

[Otis]

the Goebbels own Lidl - so perhaps they fell out with the Hitlers over something.

Probably the Lebkuchen. Always causes an argument.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Did you not once laughingly ask what I was like when I was Doms age?

When at university I was Vice chairman of the faculty I was in - it was in Nottingham and the time of the miners strike

I had to once attend some ghastly meeting with communist twerps asking how to support the strikers

Much you the poor chaps horror who was with me I decided to stand up and say I wanted to organise a collection for the police as a defence against the Marxist thugs

It did go well and I was confronted by some cretin in a standard Che Guevara T Shirt swearing at me. There was a black guy with him and I said to him why is he standing by someone who advocated White supremacy, apartheid and was a Nazi

Of course they were very confused and then I attempted to educate them on the racist that was their Cuban hero

Although T Shirt wearer didn’t say it with great articulation he tried to justify it that times were different then

It was my first and last meeting

This is all very interesting G but doesn't detract from Thatcher's homophobic policies which had a lasting impact on the LGBT community. One might just as easily say 'times were different' when Conservative governments were speaking to the IRA behind closed doors. One cannot find a criminal link between Corbyn and the IRA because it doesn't exist. He was naïve but not malicious in his intent.

But it was very clear what Section 28 was aimed at doing, so don't paint her up as some kind of moral crusader

 

[fernandopartridge]

I feel Jess Phillip's would be eaten alive by the tories. She's definitely not up to the task of leading an international political party.
Could you honestly imagine her being the voice of Great Britain on the world stage?

She's a bullshitter so she's as qualified as the chronic liar who is the incumbent PM

 

[Otis]

Rayner and long bailey annoy me for different reasons. Rayner needs Gelding. She’d be ok if she could just take the nasty Labour snarl away...I saw her on the last debate and if she’d been just that little bit more compose (rather than sounding like she was bollocking her husband?) I would have agreed with her. She turned into Arthur Scargill.

Long Bailey is not mass appeal. Reminds me of a cartoon character. And not a pleasant one either.

I thought Raynor came across as sneering and condescending. Not a good performance at all.

 

[shmmeee]

No, I was talking about Swanson and her mob, and most of labour, and some of the knob heads in the tories.

Remind me again who had a majority in the commons between June 2016 and now?

 

[fatso]

Remind me again who had a majority in the commons between June 2016 and now?

No fucker, thanks to Mrs May loosing her majority in 2017.
Do keep up Shmmeee

 

[shmmeee]

No fucker, thanks to Mrs May loosing her majority in 2017.
Do keep up Shmmeee

2017 is before June 2016 now?

And confidence and supply isn’t a thing? What the fuck did we spend all that money in NI for then?

There was always a majority for Brexit. Just a softer Brexit than the ERG wanted. So they fucked May over to get their man in, then they pulled their own Brexit deal to get a majority.

Quite clever politically in the end, but most certainly not “getting Brexit done”.

Tories own all of this from start to end. Labours mistake was not getting the entire PLP onboard with a soft Brexit or jettisoning Corbyn for a GNU towards the end. But if the party of government had got their act together there’s nothing anyone else could’ve done.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

2017 is before June 2016 now?

And confidence and supply isn’t a thing? What the fuck did we spend all that money in NI for then?

To accelerate reunification wait what

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

She has zero leadership ability and anyway is abhorrent to momentum who control labour

Would you have had momentum having so much influence under Blair/Brown? Or Blairites in charge during the Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock days?

Things change. A massive election defeat is going to affect their influence given they're inextricably linked to it.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I cannot believe the Scots would ever be dumb enough to ever vote to leave the UK - it would be a humiliating catastrophe that would end up with them crawling back

Wouldn't have thought you'd be suggesting people were thick for wanting to leave a union based on the fact someone has told them they'd have more control over their own country and would be better off despite all indicators pointing to the opposite?

Seems like a sweeping generalisation to me.......

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

So what, if there up to the job that's great.
I dont need them to be representative of anything, just do the fucking job!

I agree with you in principle but the job is looking after the people of this country.

Ever head the adage "to judge a man first you must walk a mile in his shoes"?

Pretty difficult when you spend you life looking down on those shoes as smelly and revolting and won't touch them, let alone put them on and go for a walk.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I think you'll find the delay was caused in part, by opposition parties and renegade mp's doing their best to frustrate the will of the people.

Like Alexander refusing to vote for May's deal twice for no reason other than it didn't help his leadership ambitions....

 

[Ian1779]

I feel Jess Phillip's would be eaten alive by the tories. She's definitely not up to the task of leading an international political party.
Could you honestly imagine her being the voice of Great Britain on the world stage?

Jess Phillips would be the choice that Murdoch would pick.... speaks volumes.

 

[Houchens Head]

I reckon we need to play an untried formation against Lincoln. Anyway, what did the Romans ever do for us? Harold Wilson for President! Ooh! What a pretty colour! Where's everybody spending Christmas?

 

[SkyblueBazza]

I reckon we need to play an untried formation against Lincoln. Anyway, what did the Romans ever do for us? Harold Wilson for President! Ooh! What a pretty colour! Where's everybody spending Christmas?

Love it - like the majority of posts...nowt to do with any 'New Labour Leader' but actually more interesting too

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