The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (5 Viewers)

[martcov]

What contingency plans? Is that for what won't happen?

The EU has said nothing will change. Don't you believe them?

The EU has said what I said it says. Read your link.

 

[martcov]

Exactly. But Mart likes to muddy the water with his drivel.

You have yet to post a link showing that as I asked you to. The only link you posted said the opposite of what you claim.

 

[martcov]

So you say that the deal will not be accepted but you want to talk about what will happen when the deal is accepted?

I will say it again. Hardly anything will change with us and the EU whilst talks are ongoing on a trade deal. They have said nothing will change because it would cause harm to the remaining countries in the EU. That makes it also sound as though they will want a trade deal.

So onto food. We produce 50% of what we consume. 30% comes from the EU. The next highest will be 4%. We already trade So this will continue. Or would someone like to point out why it won't.

The reason it was spoken about was queues at ferry ports. But the EU wants it to continue. They don't want the north of France to suffer badly as it would if there are problems. Or are those that always defend them now saying that they are lying?

Just another project fear for now although nothing can be guaranteed in the future.

Read your link, it explains it.

 

[martcov]

So you say that the deal will not be accepted but you want to talk about what will happen when the deal is accepted?

I will say it again. Hardly anything will change with us and the EU whilst talks are ongoing on a trade deal. They have said nothing will change because it would cause harm to the remaining countries in the EU. That makes it also sound as though they will want a trade deal.

So onto food. We produce 50% of what we consume. 30% comes from the EU. The next highest will be 4%. We already trade So this will continue. Or would someone like to point out why it won't.

The reason it was spoken about was queues at ferry ports. But the EU wants it to continue. They don't want the north of France to suffer badly as it would if there are problems. Or are those that always defend them now saying that they are lying?

Just another project fear for now although nothing can be guaranteed in the future.

I said that the deal will be rejected tonight. If there is no plan B, or if it is rejected again, then there will be no deal and no transition period. In the event of no Transition period, the contingency plans will come into effect, but the EU has said they will not be as comprehensive as with no deal. It is all in your link.

 

[martcov]

Exactly. But Mart likes to muddy the water with his drivel.

Haha. Read your link.

 

[clint van damme]

So you say that the deal will not be accepted but you want to talk about what will happen when the deal is accepted?

I will say it again. Hardly anything will change with us and the EU whilst talks are ongoing on a trade deal. They have said nothing will change because it would cause harm to the remaining countries in the EU. That makes it also sound as though they will want a trade deal.

So onto food. We produce 50% of what we consume. 30% comes from the EU. The next highest will be 4%. We already trade So this will continue. Or would someone like to point out why it won't.

The reason it was spoken about was queues at ferry ports. But the EU wants it to continue. They don't want the north of France to suffer badly as it would if there are problems. Or are those that always defend them now saying that they are lying?

Just another project fear for now although nothing can be guaranteed in the future.

We haven't even started talking about a trade deal yet and the time is ticking.
If this withdrawal agreement goes through then they can get down to the nitty gritty but I think it's inconceivable it will.
You putting money on it being accepted I know you like to back an outsider?
As for your point on food trade, we will lose access to trade with the EU and all associated trade deals if theres no deal, we'll be under WTO schedules and that's a game changer.

 

[Sick Boy]

 

[Grendel]

If Northern Ireland aren’t happy with whatever arrangement is made they can unify with their southern colleagues if they wish

 

[skybluetony176]

If Northern Ireland aren’t happy with whatever arrangement is made they can unify with their southern colleagues if they wish

What if they want neither?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I‘ll bring food packages when I come back in April. Plenty of Sauerkraut as it has vitamins to keep the scurvy at bay.

I've gone right off you!

Went on holiday to Germany with a couple of mates, got confused, ordered drei sauerkraut mit sauerkraut. Waitress seemed surprised 'sauerkraut mit sauerkraut?!?'

'Ja' said I, keen not to avoid shame.

It takes a long time to eat a massive double portion of sauerkraut with little else...

 

[Sick Boy]

I've gone right off you!

Went on holiday to Germany with a couple of mates, got confused, ordered drei sauerkraut mit sauerkraut. Waitress seemed surprised 'sauerkraut mit sauerkraut?!?'

'Ja' said I, keen not to avoid shame.

It takes a long time to eat a massive double portion of sauerkraut with little else...

I managed to do the same with black pudding years ago in Hove, I think the waitress had only just moved over. I ended up with 12 pieces of it, I only asked for one extra

 

[Sick Boy]

If Northern Ireland aren’t happy with whatever arrangement is made they can unify with their southern colleagues if they wish

Yeah because the government is so powerful after the landslide in the last election

 

[skybluetony176]

Yeah because the government is so powerful after the landslide in the last election

It’s pretty arrogant to suggest that they can vote unite if they don’t like the backstop. They voted for single market and a customs union in the referendum. Neither unite or the backstop represents the political will of the Northern Ireland people. At least not pre referendum anyway.

 

[Sick Boy]

It’s pretty arrogant to suggest that they can vote unite if they don’t like the backstop. They voted for single market and a customs union in the referendum. Neither unite or the backstop represents the political will of the Northern Ireland people. At least not pre referendum anyway.

Yeah I know but you’re dealing with people who want it to happen at any cost and don’t care about the wishes of their fellow citizens. Telling them they can either go along with it or end the UK is ridiculous, and that’s coming from someone who’d like to see a reunited Ireland

 

[Nick]

There's a man on the news who apparently invented the word Brexit.

He was genuinely asked "how did you do it".

Jesus Christ

 

[Nick]

Also, since when did a hi vis become known as a yellow vest?

 

[Grendel]

Yeah I know but you’re dealing with people who want it to happen at any cost and don’t care about the wishes of their fellow citizens. Telling them they can either go along with it or end the UK is ridiculous, and that’s coming from someone who’d like to see a reunited Ireland

So you think the whole of the uk strategy on this needs to prioritise Northern Ireland - why? Frankly if the outcome results in a rerun of the violence and oppression that’s the fault of the people causing the violence not the uk government or the 17 million people who want to leave Europe

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Second referendum amendment will not be allowed for discussion

Good

It’s encouraging that those ‘democrats’ calling for a second referendum are increasingly being viewed from both sides with the contempt that their disingenuous game plan deserves.

 

[martcov]

So you think the whole of the uk strategy on this needs to prioritise Northern Ireland - why? Frankly if the outcome results in a rerun of the violence and oppression that’s the fault of the people causing the violence not the uk government or the 17 million people who want to leave Europe

Are they, the people causing violence, changing the status quo, or are the leave voters?

 

[martcov]

It’s encouraging that those ‘democrats’ calling for a second referendum are increasingly being viewed from both sides with the contempt that their disingenuous game plan deserves.

Really?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

If Northern Ireland aren’t happy with whatever arrangement is made they can unify with their southern colleagues if they wish

Or they could govern at storemont or take their seats in Parliament

 

[Sick Boy]

So you think the whole of the uk strategy on this needs to prioritise Northern Ireland - why? Frankly if the outcome results in a rerun of the violence and oppression that’s the fault of the people causing the violence not the uk government or the 17 million people who want to leave Europe

Where did I say it should take priority? It’s just another aspect that wasn’t taken into consideration by the arrogant.

Personally I’d like to see Ireland reunited, regardless.

 

[Sick Boy]

It’s encouraging that those ‘democrats’ calling for a second referendum are increasingly being viewed from both sides with the contempt that their disingenuous game plan deserves.

And the likes of Banks are fine?

 

[westcountry_skyblue]

Where did I say it should take priority? It’s just another aspect that wasn’t taken into consideration by the arrogant.

Personally I’d like to see Ireland reunited, regardless.

No chance of a united Ireland I hope

 

[Sick Boy]

No chance of a united Ireland I hope

I think you’re in an increasing minority outside of NI that’s actually bothered.

 

[skybluetony176]

The John Baron amendment to cancel the Irish Backstop has had a massive defeat.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Farage just said he’d take a second refurrendum rather than the deal wow!!

He thinks it would be a larger leave vote this time wow!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Withdrawal vote

Aye - 202
No - 432

So a month wasted playing politics!!!

May should resign

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The Government has been defeated by 230 votes in the Commons!

 

[stupot07]

That's a huge defeat

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[clint van damme]

Withdrawal vote

Aye - 202
No - 432

So a month wasted playing politics!!!

May should resign

that's a huge defeat. surely her position is untenable? If there's one thing she's proved good though at it's clinging on to her job.
No deal here we come.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

that's a huge defeat. surely her position is untenable? If there's one thing she's proved good though at it's clinging on to her job.
No deal here we come.

Greatest defeat by a Government ever too I believe! The news quoted 166 earlier, iirc. She’s been a disaster of a PM.

Jeremy Corbyn has just tabled a motion of no confidence.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Christ, knew it was going to be bad, but not *that* bad.

Spectacular cock-up by the PM to even get to this stage, I guess.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Farage just said he’d take a second refurrendum rather than the deal wow!!

He thinks it would be a larger leave vote this time wow!

Mioght be, might not be.

The first sentence would be about the only thing I'd ever have agreed with him on, mind

 

[Sick Boy]

How on earth can she retain her position? She should be gone by the morning.