Sunderland at it still......! (7 Viewers)

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Delboycov

Delboycov

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CovFan said:
Probably that Newcastle are doing so well so they need to find a team that has wronged them in the past to feel superior to.
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True and it must be tough for them living in Newcastle's shadow with them being such a glamorous club and them being as unfashionable as us...
 
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CovFan

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Think she is still alive, probably cursing every single call from Coventry she gets on this morning.
 
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CovFan

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We going to now get Bury fans having a go at us? Or are they not as up themselves as the pretend Geordies seem to be?
 
KarmicChris

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The fact that we're still commenting about it is bad enough. We're certainly not arsed and let them get their knickers in a twist on their own forums. Already spent too long worrying about them bitching about us. Please Leicester or Villa if we're gonna start!
 
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chinnychebbend

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Proud Proud Football League history;

Joined Football League in 1919

First season in which convicted of match fixing to avoid relegation 1920.
 
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CovFan

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If we are mentioning former transgressions how about this?

From 1957 until 1961, Hill was Chairman of the Professional Footballer's Association (PFA), a role he carried off with some relish, being variously described as 'the bold buccaneer', and 'the beatnik with the ball'. Shortly after Hill took on the role, he was confronted with the issue of Sunderland players who had allegedly been receiving dodgy payments in addition to their capped salary. The Football Association (FA) issued a life ban for the players after they refused to answer questions on the subject, but the PFA, and Hill, defended the players. Taking a gamble on there being many other players in a similar position, the PFA petitioned its members to come forward if they too had received illegal payments, in the hope that many would own up, and that the FA could be made to back down. The PFA won, and the players were reinstated with a suspension and a fine. This, too, was later revoked.
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lucky19672

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CovFan said:
If we are mentioning former transgressions how about this?
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Delboycov

Delboycov

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That's what you call cheating mate! Big Sunderland fan apparently....got to admire his ingenuity though in catching the bus to finish the marathon! I think what happened 35 years ago...yes 3 and a half decades ago wasn't right-I didn't cheat though and neither did any CCFC fan as far as I'm aware so although I understand the animosity towards jimmy Hill I can't fathom why fans from the wider football community would rejoice at another club going through the shit we are atm. Never had anything against Sunderland, in fact had a corporate ticket for the Man City game and was cheering you on. After some of the vile posts I've read from your fans, many of which weren't even born when the game took place, all that respect has now disappeared.
 
CCFC Germany

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Are we going to reward them with another 23 pages of our own - again ? ;)
But I've got to admit, reading their board makes me just angry, so I quitted. :D
 
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chinnychebbend

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I am well aware of the illegal payments scandal in the 50's mate. If the max wage was around now they would go after Man City. We were the big spenders of the early 50's and we were targeted and punished. This was probably the start of our decline from being an ever present top flight team since 1890 to the side we are now. We took it on the chin (if you pardon the pun). In the instance Hill was correct and the fact the FA later backed down just shows how widespread the practice was throughout the game.

We held our hands up and took the punishment and this is where we differ from Coventry City.
 
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chinnychebbend

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Delboycov said:
That's what you call cheating mate! Big Sunderland fan apparently....got to admire his ingenuity though in catching the bus to finish the marathon! I think what happened 35 years ago...yes 3 and a half decades ago wasn't right-I didn't cheat though and neither did any CCFC fan as far as I'm aware so although I understand the animosity towards jimmy Hill I can't fathom why fans from the wider football community would rejoice at another club going through the shit we are atm. Never had anything against Sunderland, in fact had a corporate ticket for the Man City game and was cheering you on. After some of the vile posts I've read from your fans, many of which weren't even born when the game took place, all that respect has now disappeared.
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Ever heard the term 'you reap what you sow'? We had a very good side during that 1977 season who had picked up form dramatically to come back from nowhere and could have gone on to establish our place in the top flight over the following few years. Instead we went down and had to dismantle that team, while you lot had another 15 years in the top flight, yet you 'can't fathom'!!!

If you go around acting like billy big bollocks then its hardly surprising nobody cares when you fall on hard times;)
 
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chinnychebbend

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CovFan said:
We going to now get Bury fans having a go at us? Or are they not as up themselves as the pretend Geordies seem to be?
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why? it was Lincoln who you cheated out of a place in the league
 
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DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe

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I said this on the thought provoking and informative thread the other day...

Keep it in mind that this thread is based on a selection of comments on a Sunderland forum. People mouth off on these sites, so we can take their comments with a pinch of salt as they should ours. Wishing a Club out of existence is fairly low, but if the roles were reversed and I remembered that season vividly I am sure I would have some general animosity towards them (I doubt I would wish their supporters to be without a club 30+ years later when we are nowhere close to being in the same division, but who's to say). We have got far more pressing things on our mind than the opinions of a proportion of Mackems; it is a shame that Jimmy Hill has his dissenters but I doubt he would lose much sleep and neither shall I.

I will tweak it for today...

Don't let a couple of saps (who have nothing better to do than create profiles on another team's forum to have a pop at them over something that happened over thirty years ago) wind you up. I can sleep well at night knowing that, not only was I not alive when this misdemeanour took place, but am still grown up enough not to open a profile to wind up rival fans on a football forum about their Club falling flat on its arse. If these people weren't so clearly trying to get you to bite, they would be a shame.
 
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chinnychebbend

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Might link this on Lincoln Board and see if we can invite another of the 'football family' to join the party.
 
Delboycov

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chinnychebbend said:
Ever heard the term 'you reap what you sow'? We had a very good side during that 1977 season who had picked up form dramatically to come back from nowhere and could have gone on to establish our place in the top flight over the following few years. Instead we went down and had to dismantle that team, while you lot had another 15 years in the top flight, yet you 'can't fathom'!!!

If you go around acting like billy big bollocks then its hardly surprising nobody cares when you fall on hard times;)
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I think as most CCFC fans weren't actually aware of what happened that night you can't really accuse them of acting like "billy big bollocks"! As has been asked on here already, as a fan, would you have wanted your players to act any differently if survival depended on it...I know you said you haven't been in that situation so you can't comment but please...be honest...you know you would! Helped to give us another 23 years in the top flight so although I'm not entirely comfortable with the lack of fair play displayed by BOTH teams, I'm grateful they did as at least I got to experience some much better days than fans that have only followed us post relegation.
 
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CovFan said:
Probably that Newcastle are doing so well so they need to find a team that has wronged them in the past to feel superior to.
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I suspect this is it. Their forum seems to have an astonishing number of posts about Newcastle, perhaps even more than are about Coventry. Theres the occasional mention for Sunderland on there as well. What an angry, bitter bunch.
 
Otis

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"In 1887 Sunderland beat Middlesbrough 4-2 in an early round of the FA Cup. Middlesbrough protested that three of Sunderland's players (Monaghan, Hastings and Richardson) were living in Scotland and was lodged at the Royal Hotel at the club's expense. In January 1888, the Football Association examined the Sunderland books and discovered "a payment of thirty shillings in the cash book to Hastings, Monaghan and Richardson for train fares from Dumfries to Sunderland". Sunderland was kicked out of the FA Cup and ordered to pay the expenses of the inquiry. The three players concerned were each suspended from football in England for three months."



You cheating Northern bastards!!!! :claping hands:
 
Houchens Head

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I've never given a toss about Sunderland until now. My heart goes out to them! I LOVE being hated so much!!! It makes a change form obscurity! :p
 
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chinnychebbend

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Otis said:
"In 1887 Sunderland beat Middlesbrough 4-2 in an early round of the FA Cup. Middlesbrough protested that three of Sunderland's players (Monaghan, Hastings and Richardson) were living in Scotland and was lodged at the Royal Hotel at the club's expense. In January 1888, the Football Association examined the Sunderland books and discovered "a payment of thirty shillings in the cash book to Hastings, Monaghan and Richardson for train fares from Dumfries to Sunderland". Sunderland was kicked out of the FA Cup and ordered to pay the expenses of the inquiry. The three players concerned were each suspended from football in England for three months."

You cheating Northern bastards!!!! :claping hands:
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So we paid three players to play in a game while you have TWICE cheated to avoid relegation and you think this makes us the same?
 
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chinnychebbend

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Just think, if the FA had some balls in 1923 when your original indiscretion was discovered, we may not be having this discussion now.
 
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