clint van damme
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I've said it before about them, in terms of numbers, great support, in terms of getting behind their team, dreadful.
Some on here won't like me mentioning this, but Sunderland are averaging over 30k for L1. Now that's a tremendous show of support.
I'd love you to be right on this about the Premier league but I fear we'd drop away after the first season on attendances if we went back to relegation fodder and given the extortionate admission costs. Other clubs seem to weather it but we don't.I disagree with you , but this could go on all day .
If we were in the Premier league today we wouldn't be averaging 20k home fans , it would be sold out nion every week .. such is the demand for Premier league football these days
Besides even if 20k was our championship ceiling , it's bloody good for 2nd tier football
I've said it before about them, in terms of numbers, great support, in terms of getting behind their team, dreadful.
I'd love you to be right on this about the Premier league but I fear we'd drop away after the first season on attendances if we went back to relegation fodder and given the extortionate admission costs. Other clubs seem to weather it but we don't.
I'd love you to be right on this about the Premier league but I fear we'd drop away after the first season on attendances if we went back to relegation fodder and given the extortionate admission costs. Other clubs seem to weather it but we don't.
It certainly is. Ipswich are another club that have a good hardcore support.
I'm not sure how Brighton get such big gates but fair play to them .
Sunderland historically has a massive fan base, Ipswich is fairly isolated from other footballing towns so brings a lot of fans in from surrounding areas, there's a lot of teams in our area!
I'd love you to be right on this about the Premier league but I fear we'd drop away after the first season on attendances if we went back to relegation fodder and given the extortionate admission costs. Other clubs seem to weather it but we don't.
How much would they be ? I've genuinely no idea but fear the worst !The ticket prices wouldn't be that high.
How much would they be ? I've genuinely no idea but fear the worst !
Sunderland historically has a massive fan base, Ipswich is fairly isolated from other footballing towns so brings a lot of fans in from surrounding areas, there's a lot of teams in our area!
It’s not the area that helps Ipswich as much as their history- Alf Ramsey, Bobby Robson, League Champions, won the FA Cup, won a European tournament- that counts for a lot.
Preston,Bolton and Blackpool used to be successful but don't get the crowds like they used to because there is a lot of teams up there, like I said not many other teams near Ipswich
10k home fans with 2k away, soz!
Just for balance, on the 14th September 1985 at Villa Pk only 12.198 watched Villa 1 - 1 City.I remember the 3-3 draw in 1984, probably around 7k Coventry fans in a crowd of 11k
Just for balance, on the 14th September 1985 at Villa Pk only 12.198 watched Villa 1 - 1 City.
Was that when Paul Culpin scored, we had a good following that day too,! I went 1983 stood on the Holte End with my dad we got thrashed 4-0, couldn't of been more than 500 city there we just had the end corner pen which was very sparse, only 20000 there as well and not long after Villa's title and European triumph too!Just for balance, on the 14th September 1985 at Villa Pk only 12.198 watched Villa 1 - 1 City.
In the last 40 years we have rarely had 20k+ home fans at matches, let's hope that it changes, it certainly hasn't so far this season!Football now is unrecognisable now to how it was then, and even the 90s
This assertion that we’ll only ever peak at 20k and using events of 20+ years ago to support that view is rubbish
There is a new account on YouTube that shows Cov games from the 80s, it showed one late in the season in 84 where the gate was Villa's lowest of the season and it looked like less than 1k Cov there, gate was 15kJust for balance, on the 14th September 1985 at Villa Pk only 12.198 watched Villa 1 - 1 City.
In the last 40 years we have rarely had 20k+ home fans at matches, let's hope that it changes, it certainly hasn't so far this season!
As I said we still havnt managed 20k home fans this season, considering where we are that's poor and it isn't going to change tomorrow!As I just said, what happened 40 years ago is not relevant to now.
As I said we still havnt managed 20k home fans this season, considering where we are that's poor and it isn't going to change tomorrow!
I didn't compare it to anything!
I think it was. I remember that Culpin goal. Was it his debut? Think he only scored one more.Was that when Paul Culpin scored, we had a good following that day too,! I went 1983 stood on the Holte End with my dad we got thrashed 4-0, couldn't of been more than 500 city there we just had the end corner pen which was very sparse, only 20000 there as well and not long after Villa's title and European triumph too!
I think it was. I remember that Culpin goal. Was it his debut? Think he only scored one more.
Who said we're a small club, who said we'll never have many fans,. We've one of the most successful spells in our history, one cup final win at Wembley,one play off win at Wembley, league title win and now top 6 of the championship, we still can't get 20k home fans in through the gates at the minute, like I said I hope it changes!So it’s not poor then.
There’s just some people that seem determined to think that were a small club, we’ll never have many fans, and the things that have happened to every single other club that has had success would not apply to us because we have a ‘ceiling’. You’re just one of those guys, and if that’s your view then more power to you. Does betray a complete lack of understanding of what football is now however.
Didn't say we're a small club,
Who said we're a small club, who said we'll never have many fans,. We've one of the most successful spells in our history, one cup final win at Wembley,one play off win at Wembley, league title win and now top 6 of the championship, we still can't get 20k home fans in through the gates at the minute, like I said I hope it changes!
It doesn't betray a complete lack of understanding at all in my view thanks!
Middlesbrough, Southampton, Norwich, Derby, Forest, Cardiff, Leicester, Ipswich, West Brom, Birmingham, Brighton would all have more than 20k home fans tomorrow if in our position!It sure does. Check out every other club in what I’d call ‘our bracket’.
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