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  • Start date Feb 26, 2022
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #141
slowpoke said:
Is he ? Bit of a late developer at 44
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hahahahahaha
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #142
slowpoke said:
Why would you ?
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Give up you don’t know what wages players earn end of discussion.
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #143
Ccfcisparks said:
hahahahahaha
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He’s a derek mate he had to get a new account name after wanting dabo to play cdm & got hammered on here for it
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #144
cc84cov said:
Give up you don’t know what wages players earn end of discussion.
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Nor do you or anyone else
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #145
slowpoke said:
Nor do you or anyone else
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I haven’t made out I know though I’ve said reported you are talking like you work for the board
 

The Philosopher

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #146
I guess that the tax man does and by extension (If he is set up as a Ltd co) it could be found out.

£13k has been touted, may well be less but still not good value atm.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #147
The Philosopher said:
I guess that the tax man does and by extension (If he is set up as a Ltd co) it could be found out.

£13k has been touted, may well be less but still not good value atm.
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It was a poor signing by the manager & waste of budget
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #148
cc84cov said:
It was a poor signing by the manager & waste of budget
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Was Simon Moore a poor signing ?
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #149
slowpoke said:
Was Simon Moore a poor signing ?
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Great signing
 

The Philosopher

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #150
slowpoke said:
Was Simon Moore a poor signing ?
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No, but goalkeepers at 31 are a different proposition to strikers at 31. See Oggy for details.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #151
slowpoke said:
Was Simon Moore a poor signing ?
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sheaf was a poor signing when we could have just played Dabo CDM
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #152
cc84cov said:
Great signing
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You were wrong in your early assessments then ?
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #153
slowpoke said:
You were wrong in your early assessments then ?
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Did I not praise him early no ? I’m sure I was ok with him after people were moaning about his debut on tour...also it’s not my job to get transfers right I don’t get paid to do it but even I wouldn’t of signed Waghorn expensive and past it
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #154

Sevilla match thread

Not too shabby tbf, if you add a couple of decent defenders, along with Moore, O'hare and Bright, then we will be a very competitive outfit this season.
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

ccfc1234

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #155
Warwickshire lad said:
Waghorn was embarrassingly bad yesterday. His ball control was abysmal and as someone said earlier, he turned his back on play numerous times.
He is overweight and unbelievably slow. Think we have to accept this time we have signed a donkey on its last legs.
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Who identified him as a buy? Last season we were desperately short on goals so to rectify that we spent a huge chunk of the recruitment budget on a player with a 1 in 4 strike rate at Derby and the season before we signed him it was 1 in 6!! This season he is 1 in 20, the poorest conversion rate we have had for a forward perhaps since Kevin Kyle!

Robins puts a brave face on it during interviews justifying not taking Waghon off until 80 mins vs Barnsley as 'trying to get a few more mins into Waggies legs' Taraves has been on the pitch less than 10 mins in the last 2 home games and we have scored 2 goals one of them a screamer by him.

I suspect small p politics plays a part in all this as the players will know Waghorn is one of the biggest earners and has a been there done that career at this level and playing the kid instead of him might just send a few toys flying out of prams which would be bad for the team overall.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #156
RegTheDonk said:
Wags genuinely looked pleased for Taveres yesterday at FT, perhaps the best contribution he made all day, congratulate the kid and encourage him to keep it up.
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Why wouldn’t he be. Despite the abuse he’s still part of the team.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #157
ccfc1234 said:
Who identified him as a buy? Last season we were desperately short on goals so to rectify that we spent a huge chunk of the recruitment budget on a player with a 1 in 4 strike rate at Derby and the season before we signed him it was 1 in 6!! This season he is 1 in 20, the poorest conversion rate we have had for a forward perhaps since Kevin Kyle!
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In League 2 Biamou went about 25 games without scoring
 
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #158
SlowerThanPlatt said:
In League 2 Biamou went about 25 games without scoring
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Max was on £280 a week though Waghorn is on 45k mate
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #159
If we can offload him for free in the summer we absolutely should. Nothing personal just he clearly offers little
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #160
cc84cov said:
Waghorn is on 45k mate
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Liar
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #161
slowpoke said:
Liar
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How do you know?
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #162
SlowerThanPlatt said:
How do you know?
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You’re pants are on fire?
 

ccfc1234

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #163
SlowerThanPlatt said:
In League 2 Biamou went about 25 games without scoring
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That is shockingly bad too. Sadly for some reason we seem to have a bit of a habit for signing forward players who struggle to score goals very often!!
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #164
SlowerThanPlatt said:
How do you know?
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Magwitch has access to accounts mate
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 28, 2022
  • #165
So you think he could be on £2.3 million a year ?
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #166
I'd be surprised if Waghorn has been 100% fit for any of his starts this season. Early doors he was still building up fitness until his injury. Now he obviously needs a few starts and some confidence. It'll come, just like with Godden - remember his slow start in L1? Goal scorers don't just forget their game.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #167
Speedie's Head said:
I'd be surprised if Waghorn has been 100% fit for any of his starts this season. Early doors he was still building up fitness until his injury. Now he obviously needs a few starts and some confidence. It'll come, just like with Godden - remember his slow start in L1? Goal scorers don't just forget their game.
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Has he ever actually been a goalscorer though? I'd always had him as goal provider who'd chip in with a couple himself, rather than the man to rely on to score them.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #168
Deleted member 5849 said:
Has he ever actually been a goalscorer though? I'd always had him as goal provider who'd chip in with a couple himself, rather than the man to rely on to score them.
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Seems to have scored more than a few 2015-21 at Rangers, Ipswich and Derby. 74 according to the Wiki - not 20 a season but that's not to be sniffed at in anybody's language.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #169
Speedie's Head said:
Seems to have scored more than a few 2015-21 at Rangers, Ipswich and Derby. 74 according to the Wiki - not 20 a season but that's not to be sniffed at in anybody's language.
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A good season with Rangers in their second division doesn't really count!

Other than that, a good season for Ipswich, sure, but if you get double figures out of him in a season he's doing well.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #170
Deleted member 5849 said:
A good season with Rangers in their second division doesn't really count!

Other than that, a good season for Ipswich, sure, but if you get double figures out of him in a season he's doing well.
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These players aren't 10 a penny - I'd take it too, We are the only club with two players in double figures just now. He seems like a great lad to have around the squad too. He always goes over to a player on the ground and he looked genuinely happy for Tavares on Saturday even though he knew that it might affect his playing time. There's still a long way to go in the season and he could still play his part.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #171
Speedie's Head said:
These players aren't 10 a penny - I'd take it too, We are the only club with two players in double figures just now. He seems like a great lad to have around the squad too. He always goes over to a player on the ground and he looked genuinely happy for Tavares on Saturday even though he knew that it might affect his playing time. There's still a long way to go in the season and he could still play his part.
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He's got double figures four times in his career, and one of thse was when Rangers bullied their way up from the lower leagues.

Goalscorer, he ain't.

He might bring other qualities, but you wouldn't sign him for his goalscoring... unless you're comparing to O'Hare, anyway!
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #172
Waghorn & Gyokeres certainly did not play like a pair on Saturday. Both extremely detached from one another. That could be either player's fault or just the way Preston set up.

If anyone thought he would score 15+ this season then they were deluded, but this spell since coming back has not been great.

Although, I think Martyn will hope that this thread goes past 10 pages... He might be on £250k a week by then!
 
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tommy hutch legend

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #173
He has clearly lost a bit of pace due to injuries covid etc when fully fit i think he will show his worth to the team imo
 
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CBS16

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #174
Seeing people tag him in Twitter comments slagging him off. Why on earth would people do that to our own player? One thing stating an opinion another tagging players in comments slagging them off, these fans should be banned along with the pitch invaders oddballs
 
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slowpoke

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  • Mar 1, 2022
  • #175
lord_garrincha said:
Waghorn & Gyokeres certainly did not play like a pair on Saturday. Both extremely detached from one another. That could be either player's fault or just the way Preston set up.

If anyone thought he would score 15+ this season then they were deluded, but this spell since coming back has not been great.

Although, I think Martyn will hope that this thread goes past 10 pages... He might be on £250k a week by then!
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They were up against a good Preston defence especially Sepp van den Berg another Liverpool starlet only 20 on loan to PNE if I was MR I’d keep my eye on him for next season.
 
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