SkyBlueDom26
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About time this ends, soldiers are dying on both sides. Ukraine will have to accept some losses unfortunately or it will never end
USSR invades Ukraine. (19 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Out of interest, why should Ukraine have to make territorial concessions to end a war it didn’t start?
Sick Boy
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It's not right but it's not something new in war either.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s just many comments have been made that ‘compromises’ must be made, yet few seem to say what compromises Russia needs to make when it is the one responsible for the conflict.
shmmeee
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SB has been team Russia from day one so not surprising he backs capitulation now.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Might makes right. Russia is bigger than Ukraine so clearly Ukraine should hand over its land. Israel is bigger than Palestine so clearly Palestine should let itself be annexed.
Is it too late for Britain to have its empire back?
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
I've wanted the war to be stopped ASAP. Ideally, with Putin brought to face justice, but we all know that's unlikely to happen.
The idea that I am "Team Russia" is just ridiculous.
Brighton Sky Blue
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What should happen is a full Russian withdrawal, a full payment of reparations by Russia and Putin himself should be hanging in The Hague.
What I’d accept is rump Ukraine being allowed into NATO. Putin gets to keep his stolen land, avoid punishment for his crimes and his country doesn’t have to pay the bill for the destruction it caused. All he has to compromise on is NATO membership.
Yet even that is seen as ‘unreasonable’.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It's not going to happen. What is more likely is that Russia will keep the land is currently occupies and there will be some security guarantee for Ukraine, while both Russia and the USA will benefit economically from the rebuilding that will happen and other wider opportunities that Trump will inevitably want to exploit for the USA's gain.
Brighton Sky Blue
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So Russia makes no compromises?
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
What are you expecting to happen?
The West did nothing when part of Ukraine was annexed in 2014 and when a passenger plane was shot down - it was business as usual and it will be the same again in a couple of years.
CovValleyBoy
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Trump making all efforts to stop this war.
Let's wish him well in first establishing a ceasefire.
Let's wish him well in first establishing a ceasefire.
Why are you hiding behind the actions of ‘The West’? You seem quite comfortable making suggestions about what should be done with Israel, which ‘The West’ has consistently backed for much longer?
Brighton Sky Blue
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What I expect to happen and what I think should happen are clearly not the same.