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[PVA]

Well, it is pretty stupid yes and the desire to make everything political in this fashion is wrong. Unless I'm missing something however, the two cases are entirely different given that Charlie Kirk was an active political speaker.

Given that most of the left on here couldn't wait 24 hours to start sticking the knife in on Kirk, I find the moral highground stand point here pretty silly really.

Kirk said some pretty awful things to cause division. Reiner did some pretty impressive things to better people's lives. Not hard to see why there's a difference.

Also can you not see why the President making statements like that is different to people on a football forum saying stuff about Kirk?

There is only one side that's made themselves look very silly with the moral high ground.

 

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Kirk said some pretty awful things to cause division. Reiner did some pretty impressive things to better people's lives. Not hard to see why there's a difference.

Also can you not see why the President making statements like that is different to people on a football forum saying stuff about Kirk?

There is only one side that's made themselves look very silly with the moral high ground.

Translation: I agree with Reiner's politics, therefore in my eyes he's a better person. I don't agree with Kirk, so it doesn't matter what people said about him.

The only reason some of you are banging on about this right now is because you got rightly called out for trash talking the dead earlier in the year, and you are trying to level the playing field.

It isn't going to work.

 

[ajsccfc]

Well, it is pretty stupid yes and the desire to make everything political in this fashion is wrong. Unless I'm missing something however, the two cases are entirely different given that Charlie Kirk was an active political speaker.

Given that most of the left on here couldn't wait 24 hours to start sticking the knife in on Kirk, I find the moral highground stand point here pretty silly really.

Kirk being more political makes it more likely people will bring it up but it was poor taste at best when people have just seen him be murdered on film. Reiner not being hugely political makes a world leader claiming he died thanks to Trump Derangement Syndrome absolutely fucking mental, and the people using their voices to be outraged at the former can't possibly defend the latter.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Kirk being more political makes it more likely people will bring it up but it was poor taste at best when people have just seen him be murdered on film. Reiner not being hugely political makes a world leader claiming he died thanks to Trump Derangement Syndrome absolutely fucking mental, and the people using their voices to be outraged at the former can't possibly defend the latter.

I don't see anyone here defending the latter at least. I don't like the comments from Trump, for example. I don't agree with them either.

I am still calling it what it is though, a cheap shot back to a few months ago when posters on here got called out for talking some pretty distasteful things about someone who was killed for his beliefs. We went round the houses with a few who did their very best to say he deserved it, without as much saying the words. Getting all juiced up on this now isn't a particularly good look, and it is quite transparent.

@chiefdave - It won't let me quote you. Certainly, he had an active interest in politics, but he wasn't assassinated by someone trying to take him out for political reasons at a public event of which he made a living out of. He was murdered by his son in a heated argument. There are similarities, but it isn't on the same level. I would be curious to see the police report as to what unfolded in the run up to this.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well, Reiner actually did something useful for a living instead of chatting shite on a university campus with low hanging fruit. But that’s by the by, Trump is busy finding ways to disgrace the office.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Well, Reiner actually did something useful for a living instead of chatting shite on a university campus with low hanging fruit. But that’s by the by, Trump is busy finding ways to disgrace the office.

Again, what is this trying to achieve? It's pretty low from you.

 

[PVA]

Translation: I agree with Reiner's politics, therefore in my eyes he's a better person. I don't agree with Kirk, so it doesn't matter what people said about him.

The only reason some of you are banging on about this right now is because you got rightly called out for trash talking the dead earlier in the year, and you are trying to level the playing field.

It isn't going to work.

No.

Like I said, Kirk said some awful things, Reiner did some good things.

I haven't celebrated Kirk's death. The actual sitting President is celebrating Reiner's death.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

No.

Like I said, Kirk said some awful things, Reiner did some good things.

I haven't celebrated Kirk's death. The actual sitting President is celebrating Reiner's death.

It depends what you would define as celebrating. Some of the comments on here were pretty close cases as well. If you recall as well, certain things were posted, including from you, on things Kirk supposedly said, which turned out to be false.

You aren't on the right side of this as much as you think you are really, and you were much closer to the way Trump is behaving than you think. I disagree with all of it to be honest. Someone has passed away, there should be a better level of respect.

 

[ajsccfc]

I don't see anyone here defending the latter at least. I don't like the comments from Trump, for example. I don't agree with them either.

Sorry should have been a bit more specific, I'm talking about the loud MAGA aides and Fox News cranks with big audiences rather than anyone here. I left that Kirk chat pretty early on because of what you mention

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Again, what is this trying to achieve? It's pretty low from you.

It isn’t. Democratic politicians were shot dead by a Trump supporter, Tim Walz was on his hitlist, you said nowt. Fatso goes on anti Semitic rants, you said nowt. Israel kills 70,000 people, you say nowt.

Just be consistent and condemn violence even if it’s carried out against people you’re opposed to.

 

[chiefdave]

It depends what you would define as celebrating. Some of the comments on here were pretty close cases as well. If you recall as well, certain things were posted, including from you, on things Kirk supposedly said, which turned out to be false.

You aren't on the right side of this as much as you think you are really, and you were much closer to the way Trump is behaving than you think. I disagree with all of it to be honest. Someone has passed away, there should be a better level of respect.

Pretty big difference imo between some of us idiots on here talking about Kirk and the President of the USA celebrating an American being murdered because he dared to criticise him.

 

[wingy]

Kirk said some pretty awful things to cause division. Reiner did some pretty impressive things to better people's lives. Not hard to see why there's a difference.

Also can you not see why the President making statements like that is different to people on a football forum saying stuff about Kirk?

There is only one side that's made themselves look very silly with the moral high ground.

Free Speech for me,sod the rest?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

It isn’t. Democratic politicians were shot dead by a Trump supporter, Tim Walz was on his hitlist, you said nowt. Fatso goes on anti Semitic rants, you said nowt. Israel kills 70,000 people, you say nowt.

Just be consistent and condemn violence even if it’s carried out against people you’re opposed to.

This is another set of blatant whataboutism and projection here.

I am against political violence of any kind and have repeatedly made that clear. Including on this occasion. You aren't going to take the spotlight off yourself by trying to go down this avenue.

Kirk was barely even had his death announced before you started ripping into him. You're doing it on this thread as well now by making stupid comments about him not doing anything useful. What is mental is that some of you cry foul at Trump and act all offended, but you were doing exactly the same thing a few months ago.

Just complete hypocrites, basically.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Pretty big difference imo between some of us idiots on here talking about Kirk and the President of the USA celebrating an American being murdered because he dared to criticise him.

Perhaps, but as I mentioned in my last post, it doesn't make any of you any less hypocritical. I find these whole fake compassion and outrage performances quite strange, even if the motivation behind them is easily explained.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

This is another set of blatant whataboutism and projection here.

I am against political violence of any kind and have repeatedly made that clear. Including on this occasion. You aren't going to take the spotlight off yourself by trying to go down this avenue.

Kirk was barely even had his death announced before you started ripping into him. You're doing it on this thread as well now by making stupid comments about him not doing anything useful. What is mental is that some of you cry foul at Trump and act all offended, but you were doing exactly the same thing a few months ago.

Just complete hypocrites, basically.

Did I really? News to me.

You got very upset about anti-Semitic Muslims in Birmingham then ignored someone posting at length about Jews running the world. That really was hypocrisy.

 

[PVA]

This is another set of blatant whataboutism and projection here.

I am against political violence of any kind and have repeatedly made that clear. Including on this occasion. You aren't going to take the spotlight off yourself by trying to go down this avenue.

Kirk was barely even had his death announced before you started ripping into him. You're doing it on this thread as well now by making stupid comments about him not doing anything useful. What is mental is that some of you cry foul at Trump and act all offended, but you were doing exactly the same thing a few months ago.

Just complete hypocrites, basically.

I'm sorry if you feel I didn't show enough respect to the death of a racist who was happy for innocent schoolkids to be murdered.

Kirk was doing no good, he wanted to sow division. I didn't celebrate his death, and I'm not glad he's dead.

That doesn't mean we can't point out the awful things he said out of 'respect'.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Did I really? News to me.

You got very upset about anti-Semitic Muslims in Birmingham then ignored someone posting at length about Jews running the world. That really was hypocrisy.

Somehow every post seems to get more pathetic.

You've had a mare mate. Log off.

 

[LarryGrayson]

It depends what you would define as celebrating. Some of the comments on here were pretty close cases as well. If you recall as well, certain things were posted, including from you, on things Kirk supposedly said, which turned out to be false.

You aren't on the right side of this as much as you think you are really, and you were much closer to the way Trump is behaving than you think. I disagree with all of it to be honest. Someone has passed away, there should be a better level of respect.

lead by example then

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I'm sorry if you feel I didn't show enough respect to the death of a racist who was happy for innocent schoolkids to be murdered.

Kirk was doing no good, he wanted to sow division. I didn't celebrate his death, and I'm not glad he's dead.

That doesn't mean we can't point out the awful things he said out of 'respect'.

I'm not sure why you've bothered with anything beyond the first paragraph. Not only are your facts well off, but it is pretty clear how you really think about his assasination. You wouldn't keep going on about what he said and did (even if misinformed and incorrect), if you didn't. It's not remotely relevant.

Like I said, you are a bunch of hyprocrites.

 

[wingy]

Favour to Trump Russia,Mossad,Trans predicated by Trump in advance?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Somehow every post seems to get more pathetic.

You've had a mare mate. Log off.

Nobody ‘has a mare’ on a football forum. It’s a pity you’re acting like this as really there’s an interesting discussion to be had, but not if only one person’s willing to have it.

 

[mmttww]

another set of blatant whataboutism

however, the two cases are entirely different

he had an active interest in politics, but...

Like I said, you are a bunch of hyprocrites.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What point are you trying to make?

You've put some random quotes together and tried to line them up, but it doesn't mean anything.

 

[PVA]

I'm not sure why you've bothered with anything beyond the first paragraph. Not only are your facts well off, but it is pretty clear how you really think about his assasination. You wouldn't keep going on about what he said and did (even if misinformed and incorrect), if you didn't. It's not remotely relevant.

Like I said, you are a bunch of hyprocrites.

I've said all I need to say on Kirk - he was an awful c**t but that doesn't mean he deserved to be murdered.

Trump seems to think Reiner deserved to be murdered.

It's silly, but not surprising, that you can't see the difference. Or choose not to.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Nobody ‘has a mare’ on a football forum. It’s a pity you’re acting like this as really there’s an interesting discussion to be had, but not if only one person’s willing to have it.

You have had a mare. Several of you, in fact.

You ripped into Kirk, then got all upset when called out. Trump has now done a similair thing with Reiner, and you've got all offended about what he's said. It's textbook hypocrisy.

The only discussion here that needs to had is that no one should be killed for their opinion on politics, it doesn’t matter if they said something you don't agree with, it isn't remotely relevant.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I've said all I need to say on Kirk - he was an awful c**t but that doesn't mean he deserved to be murdered.

Trump seems to think Reiner deserved to be murdered.

It's silly, but not surprising, that you can't see the difference. Or choose not to.

None of them deserve to be murdered.

The only ones that think what anyone said is important is you and a few others on here. You keep going back to it.

I'm sitting over here calling it out, and you're sat next to Trump in giving leverage to people's opinions being relevant in their assasinations.

You've got no right to get upset with what Trump said when you were all displaying an extremely similar pattern of behaviour. Even today. You're all upset I am highlighting this, but you're just making it worse.

 

[mmttww]

What point are you trying to make?

that a lot of your posts are you doing the thing you've logged on to criticise other people for doing.

 

[LarryGrayson]

You have had a mare. Several of you, in fact.

You ripped into Kirk, then got all upset when called out. Trump has now done a similair thing with Reiner, and you've got all offended about what he's said. It's textbook hypocrisy.

The only discussion here that needs to had is that no one should be killed for their opinion on politics, it doesn’t matter if they said something you don't agree with, it isn't remotely relevant.

who ya gonna try and fight today mate i lick your style ha ha ha

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You have had a mare. Several of you, in fact.

You ripped into Kirk, then got all upset when called out. Trump has now done a similair thing with Reiner, and you've got all offended about what he's said. It's textbook hypocrisy.

The only discussion here that needs to had is that no one should be killed for their opinion on politics, it doesn’t matter if they said something you don't agree with, it isn't remotely relevant.

I can think someone was an arsehole while not thinking they deserved to be killed. I said as much at the time.

Also, again, you pretended to be concerned about anti Semitism then ignored a poster indulging in it. That’s hypocrisy, it just is.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I can think someone was an arsehole while not thinking they deserved to be killed. I said as much at the time.

Also, again, you pretended to be concerned about anti Semitism then ignored a poster indulging in it. That’s hypocrisy, it just is.

What have I ignored? If there was blatant anti Semitism on here I would call it out. Seems a bit of a pointless deflection.

The problem is, your language being used is similar to that of Trump.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

that a lot of your posts are you doing the thing you've logged on to criticise other people for doing.

Ok mate.

 

[Moff]

Fucking hell. Stay classy Donald.

I rarely post on any Politics thread but fuck me what an absolute sick fuck Trump is. Abhorrent doesn't do it justice.

 

[mmttww]

What have I ignored? If there was blatant anti Semitism on here I would call it out.

someone's been posting on and off for a while that Jews run the world, and is now citing a conspiracy theory which was perpetuated by a Nazi propaganda film, on a thread you've been posting in today.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What have I ignored? If there was blatant anti Semitism on here I would call it out. Seems a bit of a pointless deflection.

The problem is, your language being used is similar to that of Trump.

So you missed the lengthy posts about how Jews run the world?

 

[LarryGrayson]

So you missed the lengthy posts about how Jews run the world?